options are this, we can vote on a motion to make a finding as to the executive director and miss leturshu's conduct and we can make a motion with respect to part of the documents that are issued. or we can hold it over entirely. you know, i must say given how much time that we have devoted to it does strike me as counter inefficient to hold the whole thing over entirely. i don't think that there is any better mechanism to get to the controller's documents. now i may have my own personal views about the breadth of that privilege and how little we can even be made aware of about the scope of the documents, but if that is the law and that is what the city attorney is going to tell us is the law, then it is hard to suggest otherwise. with respect to the ethics commission files, again, i mean, it appears that we have gone through the procedure of evaluating whether there are such non-privileged communications, the file does... i think clearly under the law appear to be protected. whether or not we want to ask and whether or not miss herrick is willing to review the ethics commission file to dete