soviet animators began to actively travel to foreign festivals lev atamanov and ivan ivanovna first ofll ran when they got to paris to visit the starevich to get acquainted personally. well, then, what happened next, and then soviet animators began to create their own classic films, one of which films began to be watched. others began to go abroad and that was the start. uh, the influence, including on japanese anime, which today, well, it seems to dominate the world, and then, in the fifties and sixties , japanese animators just got into soviet films with great interest and surprise watched well, for example, the snow queen there let's see it. hayao miyazaki himself is very fond of telling , often repeated in various interviews, that for him atamanov's film has become some kind of absolute visual conceptual breakthrough. it was so different from what existed then in japanese animation that it has signs that made it so its here, uh, the main source of inspiration and visually, yes, what does it look like? and how the characters of the snow queen gerda herself are decided there, how the