when that individual steps out of the present, as happened to levar washington who was paroled, you are dealing with a very dangerous situation. this is an individual who has already operated on the criminal side of law and is very committed to carrying out by what acts. washington is a perfect example. within six months time he had recruited two additional cell members. they had acquired weapons. they were committing gas station robberies to find their g jihad. this shows the convergence of criminal sophistication as well as commitment to jihad. >> thank you, mr. smith. the ranking member is recognized. >> thank you very much. mr. dunleavy and mr. downing, you both have talked about issues around presence and the fact that so much of what is happening is because of lack of resources to do certain things. are you saying that in the state of new york the reason chaplains like in thettted federal system, it is a matter of resources? >> no, i do not believe that is the case. ?> why are chaplain's not veted >> that is a good question. that question has been asked since 2004. what are the st

ultimately pled guilty to that charge and received federal prison sentences including 22 years for levar washington and 16 years for kevin james. it is my opinion that the jis case is an excellent example of the building of a federal and local law enforcement to work together to secure our homeland. thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. smith at our next witness is michael downing who is the deputy chief and commanding officer of los angeles police department's counterterrorism special operations bureau. he was appointed lapd in 1982 and in may of last year he was elected as president of the leadership and counterterrorism alumni association, and at the outset, we also express regrets of the committee. one of the lapd officers was killed in afghanistan march of this year, a reserve officer who is serving in afghanistan. we look forward to your testimony. we thank you for flying all the way from the west coast to be with us today. chief downing. [inaudible] >> thank you for the opportunity to discuss the los angeles police departments view and strategy of his most important phenomenon re