and it's all leven is a senior research fellow at the quincy institute of responsible state croft. he joins us now live from windham in the u. k. good to have with us just how good is russia's navy compared to say the us britain, china? well, it's very much smaller for one thing. the, the russian navy surface navy, at least is number 4 to one by europe's nate, nate as european members alone. and of course, by far more than that by the american navy. so in terms of numbers, there is really no contest where, of course, russia is. the quote of the united states is in nuclear weapons, which is why president putin, you know, repeatedly emphasizes russia's missile technology. because this is the one area in which russia is still a super tough in terms of competence. professionalism, how does russia navy compare with its army? and we've, we've all heard of, of problems that russians army has been having in its special military operations war and ukraine. well, it's difficult to say because of course, the, unlike the army, the navy has not fought an equal, but we do know that it suffered h