so, the government reacted by setting up the leveson inquiry. people in the uk, told to sit in front of a microphone, while the world watched online, and talk about what really goes on in their newsrooms. newspaper executives denied any knowledge of illegal activity. we have only seen unsubstantiated allegations and i have seen no evidence to show me that phone hacking has ever taken place at trinity mirror. did you see this sort of thing going on, mr morgan? - no. are you sure about that? 100%. at the end of the day, nothing really changed. i think from the point of view of the public perception, the phone hacking saga all ended at some unspecified point after the leveson inquiry. in reality, it wasn't over, because lawyers on behalf of all sorts of victims were suing through the courts and uncovering all sorts of new evidence. across the next three years, mirror group repeatedly refused to make any admission of guilt over hacking. tonight, trinity mirror have repeated the statement it has made many times over the last year, that its journalist

my own view is that privacy law has gone too far since the leveson inquiry .a time when inquiry. there was a time when people accused of such offences were identified before they were charged or even though charges might subsequently be emerging and were given an opportunity to defend themselves in public as well as facing accusations in public. that is a much harder position to achieve now . on the position to achieve now. on the whole, we take the view that if there is any possibility of criminal proceedings in the future , we do not name the future, we do not name the accused until such time as charges are brought . and we're a charges are brought. and we're a very long way from that stage. so it's difficult because privacy law makes it difficult and i have enormous sympathy for the bbc. i have enormous sympathy also for the sun. i'm one of those strange things, a genuine liberal. i actually think we need our great national broadcaster. i also think we need great popular news newspapers. so that's an unusual position perhaps, but i genuinely believe it. i t

post the leveson inquiry, the burden of proof is so high there's no way on earth they'll be able to runwithout the absolute proof in front of them. and that includes, saying includes, they're saying the bank the bank statements and now the photographic evidence also photographic evidence and also the there's an the video evidence. there's an almighty going on. and the video evidence. there's an almig isy going on. and the video evidence. there's an almig is the going on. and the video evidence. there's an almig is the dayjoing on. and the video evidence. there's an almig is the day annually and the video evidence. there's an almig is the day annually where today is the day annually where they announce the bbc presenters wages, which will be kind of over shadowed by this. but i think the two conversations join up because next conversation up because the next conversation is if £35,000, as is claimed, is being sent to a young person via a bbc presenter, that's our money. that's taxpayers money. it's the licence fee payers money. i think the public have a right to say not only are these wa

was happening — pre—levitt and inquiry, what was happening in the media was a lot worse _ happening in the media was a lot worse than what is happening now. —— pre-levesonke what we had to deal with _ is nothing like what we had to deal with but _ is nothing like what we had to deal with. but there was another point made _ with. but there was another point made about other potential victims... made about other potential victims- - -— made about other potential victims... ~ ., .. .. .. made about other potential victims... ., .. .. .. .. victims... we have got to move on, paul victims... we have got to move on, paul. we victims... we have got to move on, paul- we are _ victims... we have got to move on, paul. we are out _ victims. .. we have got to move on, paul. we are out of— victims... we have got to move on, paul. we are out of time, _ victims... we have got to move on, paul. we are out of time, but - victims... we have got to move on, paul. we are out of time, but you i paul. we are out of time, but you have been excellent this morning. if i may say so. great points from our listeners and viewers and our guests, thank you. prime minister's questions