the one thing i'm convinced of from both the democratic side on that committee, congressman levyn and republicans, they are going to get to the bottom, or to the top of where this goes, and that's going to be -- and we need to, because this has to get fixed, it can't happen again. jon: but you're a political adviser, i mean if you were to get on the horn with president obama this afternoon and start talking to him about what he should do as a result of all this. i mean these ordinary americans getting up there in front of congress and telling some hard rendering stories, frankly, and pleading their cases very well, what would you tell the president about the political impact here? >> well one of the things i think that congressman levyn did today was apologize to the groups that were abused. i mean, they deserve an apology, you know, something really wrong happened here, and i think you need to state that, apologize for it, and then get to the bottom of it and change it, and -- one of the things i think that this may have some impact too is tax reform. all of the complicated stuff tha