and i got to meet with lew wasserman. some of the greatest directors. >> when you started as a law clerk, you said you couldn't handle the papers so you met lew wasserman or warren beaty. >> they said, can you hand the papers and i said i have to hand them to mr. beaty directly. they said, that doesn't make sense. i said, they are not valid unless i hand them directly to mr. beaty and that worked. so that turned into -- that little moment with warren beaty turned into 40 minutes sipping espressos in his dining room. >> you've had great partnerships along the way, including with ron howard. >> for sure. >> you've done so many amazing movies with. you won best picture with him for "a beautiful mind." does he approach curiosity the way you do? >> no. he's so different. so let's say, "a beautiful mind," i would have the idea to do that and i would know how the story could work, you know, in terms of creating a first person subjective experience and i can understand that stuff and alternate realities and present all of that to