his adopted father, lewis ellison, was mainly dismissive.o you... >> i'd never amount to anything. >> you remember him saying it? >> well, it was his alternative greeting as opposed to, "hi, how are you," or, "how did it go at school today?" because i was constantly questioning authority, he felt that would continuously get me in trouble as it had in school, as it had in the boy scouts, as it had on athletic teams. >> is any part of you that now says, "it gave me a drive that i might not have had otherwise?" >> oh, yeah, i had all the disadvantages required for success. >> and it made you what? competitive, driven, obsessive. >> [laughing] yeah, all of the above, yes. [ticking] >> coming up, larry ellison's eureka moment. >> i said, "oh, my god, this is exactly what we need to do. we can beat ibm to market with ibm's own technology." >> we'll take their idea and run with it. >> absolutely, because ibm doesn't believe in their own idea. >> and then oracle was born. >> right. >> that's next when 60 minutes on cnbc returns. [ticking] ♪ [ male a