it was specifically lewis marx that hoover was inclined not to have interviewed. the stepmother was interviewed by the way. she did not mind being interview. none of the pete -- none of these people minded. he was envious, he wanted to be interviewed. remember the fbi knew who put at the pentagon papers because they had known it since early 1970. they had been told by my former wife's mother-in-law, her father's wife, not her mother second wife -- the stepmother had told -- i got the wrong relationship there. >> it's your mother-in-law, your step mother-in-law. >> my step mother-in-law. her stepmother. >>her father's second wife is her stepmother. i do this all the time. ok, she had become quite conservative and her older age and she went right to the fb i having been told by my former wife that i have copied the pentagon papers. the fbi knew this from either late december, 1969 or 1970 and interviewed rand. i think i had to cut this out of the book for space. i had a whole chapter on it. the fbi came to rand in april of 1970 having already tried to interview my w