in earlier years justice o'connor and lewis powell were very tight, very, very tight. lewis powell is the justice who retired in 1987 can opening up to see that robert bork was nominated to. the wonderful thing about that relationship for me as a journalist and author was that he saved all her correspondence in his archives that are at washington and lee down in accident in virginia. so what i was researching the ak on her i was able to find all that correspondence and to see not only her personal observations about maneuvering on cases with lewis powell but also how she felt when she was diagnosed with cancer, when she went to the loss of her parents while she was on the court. so those two are very special relationship that i would say was almost as tight as the one between justices scalia and ginsburg. >> host: you probably saw this recent article in the "washington post," this is robert barnes writing about erwin chemerinsky, retiring dean of university of california-irvine law school. >> guest: you don't mean retiring. >> host: i apologize. i made that the. he jus