people like lewis powell who went on to become a supreme court judge. he is a supreme court court judge that right the first opinions and that corporations have the right, the same right to participate in elections as people. he also wrote a very important memo. if you are not familiar with it, google it when you get home. it is called the powell movement. some people call it the palm manifesto. what he what he did was he was a very savvy man, he wrote out a plan for how corporations could take back the democracy. it was a long-term plan. it was around how the most important institutions were actually going against corporate interest. he talked about the media, the university, all of the major institutions were actually helping to support this free writing of the you rules in the u.s. including the environmental laws. so this memo laid out a long-term plan for how to undo this and lewis powell helped raise a lot of money to make this happen including money from the coke family, the melons, a lot of the very conservative economic interest in this country

but you're familiar with the lewis powell memorandum? >> no.'m not. >> a gentleman who ended up on the supreme court, he wrote a big memorandum to the national chambers of commerce and said we have to break up the sol didari, which is manifesting itself among the american people. break it up in our own defense and he said, we have to set them one against the other. they've done a pretty good job. >> i got to tell you, i remember the '60s. i'm old enough to remember the '60s and jfk, who i'm sure you supported as a good democratic, was taking policies that were sort of at odds with what bernie sanders wants to do. he wants to raise taxes very high. jfk brought taxes down. jfk was also involved in a number of deregulation, not regulation, so i'm just wondering, bernie certainly sees some things that are not dpood about america. he saw the financial bailout, he didn't like it. i didn't like it either. but his solutions, i'm wondering if his solutions are what would really be good for america right now. >> well, as far as i'm concerneded, during th

are you familiar with the lewis powell memorandum? >> no. >> i am, sir. 1971. >> yeah.'d like for people to google that memorandum. he send it to the national chambers of commerce and said there's too much democracy going on and a threat to capitalism. we have to break up the solidarity that americans have been showing. i think they have done a pretty good job. turn on the television and see the anger. >> what do you think is the most important issue, mr. van dyke? is it wall street? sit bre is it breaking up the banks? is it the minimum wage? >> to keep the regulations on wall street and the banks so what happened in 08 won't happen again. millions of americans lost everything. there is some provision in the dodd-frank bill. it's a little weak, but at least it is there. i am hopeful there is a provision in there to protect whistle-blowers. i'm hoping a few people will step forward now. >> mr. van dyke, it's a pleasure to be on television with you. my question for you is if in november bernie sanders is not the democratic nominee and hillary clinton is on the ballot, ca

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