really mainly talking about the first time i heard serious music or classical music remember the old lewistonrose: oh sure. >> i heard strab inski rite of spring. i was there when strabinski himself conducted it and that was-- we were talking about inspiring moments. i will never forget that. and we were talking about times we hearded music for the first time. and anyway i did richard. i did several poems by ee cummings with the music behind me. so thises with a new experience. i loved it. i thought maybe i should do this. actors do chris plumber does it from time to time. so i did richard and my great friend charlie lawton had told me he passed on a couple of years ago. before he-- he and i were talking and he said you know, you should try richard again. i am seeing things in you now. and i said yes, i wonder what he said that. then i went to philadelphia and two years later i'm up there doing richard. and it was so different it was so much a part of me in a way. and i added something. >> rose: richard hadn't changed, you changed. >> i have changed yes. >> rose: you know what i used to do wi