. >> host: joining you are conversation is ad lex byers, technology reporter for politico, he also puts out the morning tech newsletter. mr. byers. >> gary, let's start with innovation, that's been one of the core issues for you this year, and yet things have been pretty stalled in the house, obviously. a comprehensive bill passed the senate a couple months ago is it time for the tech industry and perhaps democrats by extension to support more of a piecemeal approach to passing the immigration bill, especially because one of the bills that, you know, may have some legs in the house is the act that is very, you know, would look at raising the number of h-1b visas or green cards that some of your members might be able to out to use? >> guest: well, thanks, alex, and you've done a great job covering the issue. as you know, the tech industry and, indeed, democrats and republicans are united that we should get the best and the brightest people to the u.s., we should want them at the universities, we should hire the ph.d.s and masters in s.t.e.m., so we have a decision that we want this, it's