to go from being sort of a nerdy dude who sold books out of a garage, into, let's say, a jacked lex luthorc practices or some type of injections? >> you know, we have and try to make those arguments in court. but it would be interesting to see how a judge would respond. >> jon: i think quite favorably. >> [laughs] >> jon: how many lawyers -- for instance, what are you up against? you've got government lawyers, i am assuming you've got a pretty good cadre. let's say you are going against amazon. how many lawyers today have? >> if they have monopoly money, they can buy as many lawyers as they want. the ftc is around 1200 employees. but when we are going up against some of these monopolistic companies, they can out match has come out on us, sometimes 1-10, just if you are looking at lawyers, if you are adding paralegals and support -- >> jon: you are looking at lawyers, they outnumber you 10:1? >> sometimes they do. we have lawsuits against how much of the companies and just in terms of sheer resources that they can pour into the litigation, we are pretty outgunned. but not outmatched, right?

. >> you thought ledger was disruptive >> he's like lex luthor, a criminal mastermind. >> miss tessmachert blinken and saudi today, hoping that this hamas hostage truce gets accepted. and oil, meantime, pretty steady here >> yeah. but there's a -- we're getting a lot of negative chatter about slb, the sold slumberger slb is disliked. slb is the best there is i mean, in terms of being pristine driller lot of people are saying, buy halliburton, not slb do you know that my wife sat next to matthew mcconaughey on the left side and mike sievert on the right side, did not speak to mcconaughey at all and told me, hey, that guy, sievert, is really cool. what does he do for a living i said, he runs t-mobile she says, he was much cooler than mcconaughey mcconaughey wanted to talk about stocks sievert wanted to talk about music. he liked dave matthews >> we did get an upgrade of t today at barclay's >> i thought that was interesting. david, you want to comment >> i'd be happy to comment sort of mixed reaction to earnings from both verizon and at&t >> verizon went down big after being up >> it did. >