rather it was the fact that they lied. and the lie itself -- >> this may be the same question in a different form. just give me a sentence that has this pattern. jane doe procured something. jane doe procured x contrary to law, where the thing that she procured had no potential -- i'm sorry whereby where the thing that she did had no potential to help her get this. >> had no -- well -- >> she procured x contrary to law. but the thing that she did had no potential to help her get that thing >> if what we are saying, as petitioner has argued, is that it has to be something that -- where you either could not get it or would be much less likely to get it if you did y instead of x. i think one example might be you go to a gallery. you can procure the painting in the gallery in one of two ways. you can procure it unlawfully by stealing it or lawfully by stealing it. if you steal it, it you can say you procured the painting contrary to law. even though you could have just as easily purchased it. that is the difference. >> the thi

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these lies were immaterial? >> well, we would go back to -- we would get a witness to talk about you know, how her two sisters got here, for instance, that they were victims of ethnic persecution by the muslims in bosnia, and that she would have gotten the refugee status regardless the point of the husband's military service. that that was not the crux -- this was in a sense, the jury i think on note 90, really nicely points out that the jury in this very case asks the judge a question. what was her refugee status based on? was it fear of persecution of the muslims or based on fear of persecution by the ethnic serbs, based on his avoiding military service? we would like an opportunity to debate that in front of a jury that is properly instructed. >> i'm sorry, i don't know -- that answers only part of the materiality issue. if she lied to get her husband a benefit, that is an immigration benefit that she was seeking. she had to lie about his military service otherwise he would have been disqualified. >> well, bu

sarah huckabee lied yesterday. the vice president lied yesterday.'s obvious. they need to apologize. >> yes. >> mike pence needs to apologize to america. he lied yesterday on capitol hill. he needs to lie to members of congress -- or apologize. they need to apologize. they've been caught in a lie in what may be, as john heilman said a growing cover-up. >> not trying to be funny, but is the reporting -- i want to make sure i wasn't reading like the onion or something. did sean spicer hide in the bushes from reporters yesterday? >> between the bushes. >> why? >> huh? >> why? >> he didn't want to be on camera. >> so he hid in the bushes? >> between the wush bush. >> he was in the bushes and said that he would talk to reporters but did not want to have lights on him. >> so he hid in the bushes? >> so, mika, there's actually -- no, no, no. let's get the language right, mika. it was not in the bushes. he called very upset. they said he was hiding in the bushes. "the washington post" was -- had to change. he was, quote, among the bushes. among the bushes.

pack of lies. it's an absolute pack of lies.bc or the media are giving it any room whatsoever, it's an absolute pack of lies. i'll give you an example. they have included £35 billion worth of investment money, capital expenditure. they don't seem to know the difference between capital and revenue. all you include in your day—to—day spending on capital expenditure is the interest rates. so it's completely ludicrous, then they have invented figures, in terms of commitments that we have given, which we haven't, and then where we have given commitments, they haven't even identified where we have already said that funding will come from. it's a pack of lies. earlier my colleaguejane hill spoke to pauljohnson, the director of the institute for fiscal studies to get his assessment. for there is a very big difference between the two main party, the labour party have say it not only they would be happy to borrow to invest but they are looking to invest but they are looking to invest in an awful lot more than is currently being spent on c

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she lied about her husband, what he was doing and bosnia, right? she said he was trying to avoid military conscription when, in fact, he was in the service, and in the unit that was committing atrocities. under what circumstances would that be immaterial? >> your honor, we would like a chance to argue the materiality question to a jury, which is general the side of what is material under this decision. we did not have the chance given the prevailing six circle on which said there was no materiality to contest this issue at trial. we very much -- >> i understand that. they were given refugee status based on well-founded fear of persecution where and for what reason? >> this is the crux of the dispute. the governments position was that it was based on the fear persecution by the serbs based on her husbands evasion military service. >> where? >> in boston. they're out of bosnia. they are at the american embassy seeking refugee status. this was in the sense of the heart of the dispute at trial. this relates to also justice ginsburg's questioned or the

caller: bill clinton lied to a grand jury. i am quite sure if he got away with it, we can certainly afford to give trump the same courtesy. even if hillary would have one, -- won, i did all the communications onboard help -- helicopters. i'm sure, if i were running everything through that, i would have been in leavenworth the rest of my life. not relitigate hillary clinton's emails. my book is about the current president. if hillary clinton had been elected, we would go through that. clinton did not get away with lying to a grand jury. was impeached for lying to a grand jury. he was not convicted, but he was charged. theoint was of trump does same thing, he too could be charged and then you would have two of course have a trial in the senate and a particular facts of what he did would be hashed out. bill clinton certainly did not get away with it. host: why was president johnson impeached? guest: technically because he violated something called the tenure of office act, which limited his ability to fire and replace. very techn

he lied to everybody he spoke to and there's a good chance he lied to the fbi in the interview, which would be a violation of section 1,001 a false statement felony for which people can go to prison. that's a lot going on in the white house to have the president been wrap around him this warm embrace of oh, it's not so bad, he's a good guy, nothing serious here. keep on moving, folks, there's nothing going on. it suggest, i don't know what, it suggests that there is some sensitivity to russia in this white house that prevents them from reaching obvious conclusions like my national security adviser may be compromised, let's firewall the guy until we get to the bottom of this and this guy did a lot of really dirty things and may even broken federal law. he's not somebody we need to be defending. i don't know if they're trying to send a signal to him or if they're afraid that he's cooperating or might be cooperating and they want to calm him down. i don't know what that is all about. it doesn't make obvious sense. >> finally, james clapper said two interesting things, one, very -- the ve

he says russia lies.to foreign policy or, you know, the meddling in our election or any of that? i mean, it's -- it's really -- it's really quite remarkable. >> jack, i want to ask you, why is he so concerned about, you know, what putin has to say? i've got to meet with putin. he doesn't have to meet with anyone in the oval office. >> i agree and from early on in the dam pain, you know, there's a -- there's a level of clue esness, nooaivety and this is astounding coming from the president of the united states just to -- to -- to not understand that he's playing chess with a queen down, because -- and you foe, apparently he doesn't listen to his own folks. that's why i was saying earlier on, the wheels are coming off. i'm getting a little bit concerned and i'm being very -- i'm taking very low key approach. >> no, why are you concerned? >> well, what i said. it's just -- you know, this is how -- you know, this is our leader who doesn't seem to really know what's going on, and you know, i'm not blaming him

the issues are -- >> if he had not lied or if he lied and there had not been a leak about it. >> exactly. >> what would be so wrong with calling don megan the white house counsel before a congressional committee and finding -- >> executive privilege. >> an executive session. there are answers to these questions that we don't know. we don't know about the underlying evidence. we don't know about what they >>> we're going to take a quick break. we will pick up the conversation when we come back. that and more when we continue. sorry, just getting a quote on motorcycle insurance from progressive. yeah? yeah, they have safe rider discounts, and with total loss coverage, i get a new bike if mine's totaled. but how's their customer service? great. 24/7. just like here. meat loaf! [dings bell] just like here. anybody got a pack... that needs leadin'? serving all your motorcycle insurance needs. now, that's progressive. if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. if other treatments

the issues are -- >> if he had not lied or if he lied and there had not been a leak about it. >> exactly. >> what would be so wrong with calling the white house counsel before a congressional committee and finding -- >> executive privilege. >> an executive session. there are answers to these questions that we don't know. we don't know about the underlying evidence. we don't know about what they knew when they knew it. i guess he will claim executive privilege. >> we will take a break. we will pick up the conversation when we come back. it was banter or did eric trump let something slip about russian funding for a trump organization. that and more when we continue. [vo] the grille is distinctive. but it's usually seen from the rear. the all-new audi q5 is here. go to great lengths frto find relief.ain finally there's drug-free aleve direct therapy®. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the rea

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it is a pack of lies. interest rates. it is ludicrous and they have invented figures in terms of commitments that we have given which we haven't and then when we have given commitments, they have not identified without that funding will come from. it is a pack of lies. joining me isjohn curtice, professor of politics at strathclyde university. interesting that we were listening tojohn mcdonnell interesting that we were listening to john mcdonnell and philip interesting that we were listening tojohn mcdonnell and philip hammond because it is that american political phrase that it is all about the economy, stupid. lots of elections are just about the economy. what do we know about what the british public think this is about? it is interesting. it has taken about? it is interesting. it has ta ke n two about? it is interesting. it has taken two weeks before the economy has came to the forefront of the election campaign. the reason why the she wanted to call this campaign was not the economy of the deficit, but

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so to house democrats, it is pretty clear he lied. this isn't the only misstatement. there was a security clearance form whenner you're asked to list your foreign business transactions and relationships. he left that blank. >> so he wasn't really paid by the russians. he was paid by the speaker's bureau even though they got money from the russians. the pushback in this letter by elijah cummings, he got air fair, he got hotel paid for by the russians. >> absolutely. that doesn't fast laugh test. when he did an interview by the "washington post," he admitted that he got paid for this trip by r.t. as well as his speaker's bureau. he's talked about having dinner with putin and wanting to work the russians about isis. it was very clear what was going on. >> even if it doesn't fast laugh test, does it fast legal test? if he says it wasn't paid by the russians. the check i got came from the speaker's bureau. >> not at all. he should have reported it. it should have been on that form. even if you think on your own mind for some reason that maybe it didn't really come from the

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i mean he lied to the vice president, mike pence. would side with his vice president over this guy who was a bad actor and barack obama warned was a bad actor. only suspicious i have as to why they continue to cover for mike flynn and make excuses for him and he wasn't just acting as a free agent. >> that's an assumption. but the question is should have president-elect trump should have listened to president obama? >> i think that's difficult to say in that matter of time. i've sat down with former opponents and you just don't know what you can really trust. just because he's the president of the united states and you're in the oval office doesn't mean everything here from on out is going to be totally transparent. there's a natural weariness, and we ariness went on. >> wait, jack. weary about what? what would you be weary about? this isn't that. this is information of the acting attorney general whose appointed by a republican and you have the president of the united states. that's not someone who's just repeating rumors about someo

>> the direct lies and contradictions. no account that the president puts forward is supported by anyone else. everyone is giving a completely different account, from even the president we say in the interview last night on nbc. when i'm in d.c. and talking to friends and colleagues, no one hears the same thing. this dinner has been in the rumor mill for a couple months and it's been astounding that the president doesn't understand that the fbi director is supposed to be impartial, he's there on a ten-year term, he can wade through these political pressures should they arise. the president goes right at those political pressures and undue influence on investigations. it's astounding to anyone regardless of your politics. >> astounding in so many ways. president trump flatly contradicted what the vice president and multiple white house employees claimed about russia having no role in the decision to fire comey. now here is the white house message over the past few days. take a look. >> why specifically did president trump f

and james clapper, who lied, willingly and knowingly, admittedly lied to a senate panel years ago about whether the nsa was spying on americans but he gave them a huge platform to state their case. my question is this: where was the extensive interview of the clinton -- coat >> cruz. >> eric: john mccain was asking questions as well. john mccain and lindsey graham have been never trumpers. >> they voted with the president every time. >> eric: why do you on the left have a problem -- the real issue here and the only law broken by any measure so far is the leaking of michael flynn's name to "the washington post." yes, it is. everything else -- >> flynn lied to the vice president, met with the russians, and allowed to stay in the administration for 18 days after they knew he lied. >> eric: the fbi didn't tell them. >> the russians could have turned him. they have information that he lied to. >> eric: i totally respect -- you do realize every u.s. senator, republican or democrat, will meet with the same people michael flynn met with. >> the russians have black male information on him that h

he said russia lies.licy and/or you know the meddling in our election or any ever that? i mean it's -- it's really -- it's really quite remarkable. >> jack i want to ask you why is he so concerned about you know what putin has to say? i've got to meet with putin i've got to do whatever. he doesn't have to meet with anyone in the oval office. >> i agree. from early on in the campaign you know there is a -- there is a level of includelessness naivete and probably arrogance thinking i know what's going on. this is astounding coming from the president of the united states. just to -- to -- to not understand that he is playing chess with a queen down waus -- and you know apparently he doesn't listen to his own folks. that's why i was saying earlier on the wheels are coming off. i'm getting a little bit concerned. and i'm being very -- ierm taking very low key approach to this. >> no why are you concerned. >> >> well, as i said -- this is our -- our leader who doesn't seem to really know what's going on. and yo

the white house briefings tell lies to cover the lies that trump lied about. michael, sacramento, california, up early on a sunday morning, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning, america. happy mother's day. iq. president has a 162 he made it where he is supposed to make it, on the streets of new york. he has trump tower with bill gates in it.he has wilbur ross in there. he has the proper people at the top of the take care of business filtering down to the little guy, and he got them to vote for him. simple situation with numbers when you play politics. against the parties and being able to take and have his daughter come in and say let's get things going and do things right. just last week, she turned to sessions about the agreement. there is 192 countries around the world going along with the facts. here he is with bill gates in there. bill has a big smile walking out the door. the silicon valley, none of them showed up. there is elon musk. when he does it, people try to go with the valuation of the company. donald has 500 products out there.

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jesse: you say president trump lies.president obama when said you can keep your healthcare plan. >> politifact says donald trump lies 70% of the time. jesse: how does that make him psychotic. i'm saying he suffers something called malignant narcissism. he's a liar and has paranoid percent cue tory -- persecution ideas. what about the 3 million immigrants bussed to new hampshire to fake the vote. jesse: he never said that. that's not true. malignant narcissism. you are equating him with adolph hitler if i read that correctly. don't you think it's irresponsible for to you do that as a trained professional? >> it's irresponsible not to. i was raised with never again. if you see a hitler-like leader you have to say something. jesse: how is he like hitler. >> he's narcissism, paranoia, anti-social personality. jesse: how is he paranoid. >> his crazy conspiracy theories. he believes ted cruz's father was part of an aas a nation of kennedy. he's a lying psychopath. he has two kind of lies. those he tells others and those he tel

what do you think of the play li list that you all have given the world?ink we came on a whole different genre of music, only it was the stuff that we were just always, always playing. we always played -- we usually played black music. and i guess it just molded into a thing. >> you still out gigging after all of these years? >> i love it. >> yeah? >> yeah. >>> frank deford was one of the most beloved sports writers of all i'm. during a visit to this program he discussed while athletes hold an elevated place in society and why he believed sports upholds democracy. frank deford passed away sunday at the age of 78. what is it about sport that elevates and inflates these guys to a level that is higher than teachers, higher than physicians who are saving lives. you take the point. >> well, first of all, it's not the united states so it's got to be part of the human condition. it's the same all over the world. they're glamorous. they're beautiful. what they can do. we all admire them. and i think the fact, tavis, is we all play games when we're young. so in oth

we're afraid they know he lied and he could be blackmailed. he could be vulnerable. what's gray about that? >> it's important to point out to folks when they talk about how general flynn could have been compromised they were talking specifically about whether or not he had misled vice president pence and the information he passed on, important to point out this had nothing to do with allegations of so-called coordination between the campaign and some foreign entity. when we talk about what was actually in the transcript, again, i'm relying on public reporting from the time says it wasn't entirely clear what was said in that conversation and the white house was smart to do their homework on this. >> do you know how vetted flynn was? do you know if they ever had discussions with him about the work he did for turkey, about the $45,000, about the paid speech? as you know, he never acknowled acknowledged the payment of the speech that sean spicer is pointing to here. do you know what was done to vet flynn? >> that wasn't a role i was a part of, here is what we do know. ge

. -- lied to. -- lied. he lies and lies and lies. how can he represent us?e are folks that tried to bring our kids up in a straight way, a religious way. you do not tell lies. i believe the federal bureau of investigation could really do a job. host: on its face, do you think the president tried to obstruct justice? caller: absolutely. he is a bully. he showed it like in the middle of the doggone campaign. you have little hands, little marco. he did it to each one of them and they don't have the guts to stand up and say, this guy has not been telling the truth. he bullied us all the way. host: as far as jim comey is concerned, do you think he is telling the truth? caller: absolutely. host: why so? of a jobe has a hell and he has to live with his conscience, and do the job we asked him to do. i believe he has been walking a tightrope trying to be fair to both sides and trying to find the truth. from james is next tennessee, democrat line. caller: donald trump told the people, i tell you what you want to hear. he said i don't pay no taxes because i am smart. w

how can we expect anything other than lies and more lies and cover-up the situation? this is what is disgusting to me. host: it doesn't matter that an outside person is going to leave this up? caller: robert mueller is an ex fbi director. what do you think he is going to do? host: we need a law firm who has -- caller: we need a law firm who has handled this type of atomic,fore, who has the resources that it needs. everybody in there has public ties. the fbi has not done anything for my people. you know i cannot trust them. government to investigate itself, it was perpetrated by the democrats and the republicans. how do they expect the same government that put us in this mess to investigate itself and give us the truth. wall street journal offers a couple of points -- what is the difference between a special counsel an independent counsel? it is the degree of independence. the attorney general can remove a member of a special counsel. an independent counsel, which no longer exists under law, had far more latitude. it was created after nixon's derail a criminal investig

no one lied? i think we know that mike flint lied to. i think we know that donald trump -- >> kimberly: dum xp three the top of the investigation is about. >> dana: this investigation started last july before the election ever took place into the intelligence investigation into possible collusion between the trump campaign officials >> jesse: who lied? before we know that michael flynn lied. >> jesse: he is being looked at right now for not registering as a foreign agent. >> juan: that's a scandal in and of itself, he had a million dollars from turkey and then opposing any action that would not benefit a turkey as a u.s. official. >> jesse: that is not the focus the investigation. >> juan: trump said this was a witch hunt, you're doing the opposite. kevin mccarthy said it is a joke, i bet the russians are paying trump, this was last summer. i don't want anybody to say that someone is paying me. there was big news today that seems to me when you have rod rosenstein who was the deputy attorney general and acting attorney general because je

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he just lies straight out. because he also had a responsibility before going to that gala in rt in russia to ask permission from the u.s. army because as a general officer retired, he can always be called back to active duty. so you have to get approval before you can receive funds from any foreign source. he did not do that. so i've actually sent a letter to the acting secretary of the army asking him to proceed with action which he can take independent of everyone else to take action against general flynn for violating the rules. >> as a lawyer, i can tell you, as a former criminal defense lawyer, that is not good. we'll have a lawyer to talk about it. if indeed there is proof that there has been a lie to a federal agent, general flynn is in deep trouble tonight. let me ask you about another question. general flynn is taking the fifth and not surrendering documents. certainly his right. innocent people take the fifth every day of the week and they should. nonetheless, your thoughts on him taking the fifth? >>

how are you shocked that they lied? how? trump standing there, sergei, why did you release those pictures? oh, i thought that was one of your normal fingers. russia is owning donald trump so hard right now it's embarrassing. it's like watching the harlem globetrotters. did you have to dunk on him and pull his pants down, man? and look at trump's a smile. really? your happiest moment in the white house is when the russians come? i mean, i guess i shouldn't be shocked. i would be happy if my boss came to visit me at work. i mean, who is this person? i don't want to hear another word about how it was only the d.n.c. got hacked because team trump is so smart and secure because russia proved if they want to hack and leak dirt on trump, they can do it face to face without him noticing. luckily even with the white house in chaos and comey gone, the russian investigation still has plenty of competent people who are on the case. >> special agents wood and lydic reached a break through in their investigation. >> oh, my god, i used to

what about you said the president lies.aid if you want your health plan you can keep it? >> it donald trump lies every three minutes and 15 seconds. >> how does that make an psychotic? >> i am saying that he suffers from subsequent malignant narcissism. he is multilayer and has paranoid persecute ideas. >> what has he lied about? >> talking about his class-size. what about the 3 million immigrants that were bussed to new hampshire to fake the vote? that would let the equivalent of d-day. >> never said there were 3 million immigrants in new hampshire. that is not true. malignant narcissism. next interesting piece you are equating him with adolf hitler if i read that correctly. do not think that is irresponsible to do that as a trained professional? >> i think it would be irresponsible not to. if you see someone at the rising you need to say something. >> so how is donald trump comparable to hitler? >> they share the same paranoia, narcissism, antisocial personality. >> how his paranoid? >> office please conspiracy theories.

it is a pack of lies.aiza shaheen, who's the director for the centre of labour and social studies. claim and counterclaim on tax already. yes, as we would expect. when you look across what the conservatives have put out today on what the labour party has pledged so far since the election was announced there is a mismatched or the conservatives are bringing out things, costing things like free childcare places, when labour has not committed to that. they said they want to move towards that. it seems unfair to be pointing the finger at the labour party. we should be having honest conversations about what to do about the public spending crisis. like services are screaming out for more money. we have to have that conversation and i look forward to seeing what the conservatives say they are going to do. on the point thatjohn mcdonnell they are going to do. on the point that john mcdonnell raised they are going to do. on the point thatjohn mcdonnell raised on the difference between revenue and capital spending,

we shouldn't have to deal with these lies. the message that donald trump was purposely sending with all of this, was to delegitimize a man who he wanted to other. and it wasn't lost on the white supremacists and white nationalists who, you know, endorsed like the kkk, president trump. david duke. he was the source of all of this. why he does this today, why he attacks the media when they could be an ally, i can't say. but why the media circles around the white house when it comes to times of war or military action. why you get these typical pundits on television, who know so little about so much, explaining the world to us and getting it so wrong. why the media brings us the pundits when it comes to military action. 067 a general or a kournal. they don't tell you retired -- sort of like an elder states man. and they don't tell you about the weapons manufacturer's they are tied to, we should hear all of these voices by the way. we should know if they're representing a weapons manufacturer, and who's profiting from all of this.

i do struggle with the word lies. in the facebook secret rules on hate speech sex violence and terence in seen guardian. the guardian has seen i it has been guardian. the guardian has seen 5 it has been picked up by these and it has been picked up by these and it has been picked up by the telegraph. we can't see that there is a facebook reply on this front page so i will do it for them ina front page so i will do it for them in a moment. caroline, this story will interest a lot of people. the rules that seem quite... this has implications not just media rules that seem quite... this has implications notjust media like ourselves but anybody who does get on facebook, enjoys is it and uses it to engage with their friends. we know about the rules that our data is being shared that it is now going a little darker because facebook is still refusing to acknowledge their increasing status as a publisher of almost unparalleled influence across the world. what the guardian has done is uncovered some training manuals and ethical

and it sounds like he was probing to find out how serious they were, had he lied to the fbi. she didn't get any responses to that. and where this thing might go. and all she was doing was trying to alert them to the fact that there is a problem here. you have somebody who is disembling apparently to your staff and the vice president in turn is taking that information and making it public. >> yeah. if you were getting, you know, in your role, if you were getting a red flag like this from the acting attorney general about the national security adviser, what would you do with that information? >> well, you know, i vetted a lot of people. we didn't -- we had trouble with wat watergate, but we didn't have any trouble with our vetting and they were very thorough and we reacted to this sort of thing. nixon was something of a stick ler on these kinds of issues. these small things were big things to him. he was somebody who wanted all of this staff to be clean as a whistle. notwithstanding the criminality that later occurred with watergate. conflict of interests. ethics violations and

>> it's very clear that jared kushner lied on his security le clearance form.hite house does not deny he omitted multiple russian meetings. now we know those meetings were significant. one dealt with a secret back channel to russia. a second dealt with the head of a bank that was being sanctioned by the u.s. at the time. you don't just forget about these meetings. jared kushner deliberately omitted those on his security clearance form. that's a felony and it also puts in a compromised position. >> his attorney, the former deputy attorney general jamie gorelick who served under bill clinton says he's ready to answer all of your questions in congress. he's ready to appear and he has nothing to hide. your response? >> i would love for jared kushner to answer why he lied on his security clearance form under oath. and keep in mind, reuters just broke a story that says that on the second revised security clearance form jared kushner lied again. he omitted two additional contacts with the russians that were not on that form. >> they deny, congressman, that he lied and

was the vice president in the loop as well that he'd been lied to? >> i don't believe he was.r on the timeline here, but i don't believe he was, and i mean, this is -- at what point do we kind of just say, okay, what is it? are you just completely out of the loop and you have no role in this or do you know and you're not being straightforward with the american public? the vice president can't have it both ways. this is a white house that wants to continually do that and the case with flynn where the president is going on and still has praised him recently, yet even kind of they whisper and they talk, oh, you know, he really betrayed us, lied to us. it's all done under the cloak of anonymity and have to wonder what's going on here. it goes to your point earlier about, you know, the president expects a tremendous amount of loyalty from people around him, but he doesn't offer much in return. >> gloria, i mean, sally yates said very likely there was a case to be made that there was il ileegality there, and that's what she informed the white house of. >> sure. >> the white house ev

s office wanted to know if administrators lied about one of those cases essentially breaking the law. lewis counselor of education, accused by a student of sexual harassment in 2015. a university investigation concluded he did act inappropriately. but it wasn't until the "mercury news" asked questions that san jose put him on leave. the santa clara county d.a. looked into how san jose state handled the investigation, specifically whether two administrators lied. a former dean and associate dean allegedly told a university investigator they knew of no other formal or informal complaints against the professor. but there was another case against him a 2014 anonymous complaint. the word anonymous is key because chin and mcvay said there weren't any formal or informal complaints. in other words, they didn't technically lie since according to san jose state, an anonymous complaint is not the same. kpixobtained this email from a deputy district attorney who explains to a whistle-blower why the investigation went nowhere: