it is written by senator li ljenquist. ways we could solve the problem -- first of all, we need to honor the promises we made to current retirees and workers. sometimes the argument that you referenced get thrown out as a red herring because most of the serious policy debates around pension reform today and the big reforms that have happened deal exclusively with new hires. setting a date in the future that those hired after a date will be part of a new system that is more financially sustainable. i would argue if some of those changes are not made, it would be difficult to honor current workers and retirees. 1997,an, my home state in one of the pioneers for the plans. more recently, alaska and oklahoma have taken that approach. we have historic reforms in utah as well. i think those of us that are serious about this, we are talking about perspective hires. that is so important to get that message across. that is the number one argument to kill reform. a lot of people say what we need is fundamental pension reform. states,