we asked for li peng to come out and have dialogue.t has always been the keyword of 1989, we wanted that dialogue. eventually, we were asked to go to the place, to sit with them, so we thought, maybe this is the dialogue. but no, it wasn't a dialogue. it was a monologue. it was a lecturing. it was condescending, it's showing a message to the chinese people that we students went too far. the hierarchies there were giving us some lecturing, like some lesson. but that cannot be televised to the chinese people, because that would be a wrong message. what happened, really, is, after 20, 30, a0 days, with the pressure, something is happening. and this happened, and then this cannot be interpreted into something else. do you think it made any difference, that image of you sort of treating li peng as an equal, not as some superior being on the top of the party, but as an equal. do you think, whatever happened after 11th ofjune, 1989, in china, that image and that moment still matters? in two aspects, number one, it made an influence for the de