embassy in rome of their latest visit with liam. they appointed a guardian to visit liam. you an excerpt from what they said. this was just in september. the visit was a difficult one from the start as liam initially refused to come out of his bedroom, refusing to see or talk to visitors, he was persuade today open the door by his guardian, liam was extremely upset and cried throughout the half hour visit. why don't italian authorities recognize that the child would be better back here at home with his father where he can get the help that he needs? >> well, you've got to understand italian laws. the mother is a dual citizen like i am and she has a full right as an italian citizen to maintain the son in italy, but due to the condition that the judge will decide in the father's case to bring the son back here to the states. that's up to the judge because italian law is what it is and say again, the mother is an italian citizen and every right, but based on what you said that they say she's unstable, that's up to the judge to make that decision. my role as an eye member of t

in terms of who's going to replace him, i would assume brian moynihan would be in the lead because liam mcgee just left to become the ceo of hartford. sallie krawchuk isn't in running in any way, shape, or form. and neither are the people who came in from merrill lynch to head up the investment banking area. so i would guess that brian moynihan would be the number one candidate. >> dick, by saying that, ken lewis stepping down is bad to have bank of america, does that imply they are in fact trading down by taking one of these possible successors and making him or her ceo? >> absolutely. there's no we in my mind about it. ken lewis was one of the most brilliant bank executives in this country. he's proved it over 20 years of making solid decisions. he's created a company which went from a nothing bank in north carolina to being the largest bank in the united states, with 12% of the nation's deposits, a number one position in a whole series of consumer and commercial products. for him to be pushed out on this issue is almost outrageous. >> hey, dick, it's joe. does this change the time fr