. >> on wednesday liam niesen was talking about a ban in new york city. he is a little pissed at our newly elected mayor. >> i am a little pissed off at our newly elected mayor. he wants to close this horse and carriage industry in new york. there was a poll last week and over 60% of new yorkers want to keep the horse carriage industry. these organizations put out this this -- all of this false information. these guys treat the horses like children. >> i hate children so i don't know what that means. then he moves to other topics. >> he oant even -- he won't even take a meeting. he is supposed to be representing the new york people. >> i hope they can work it out. quite frankly from my perspective it does not seem to be -- maybe this is an emotional reaction, but a fulfilling life for an animal. >> we don't know. >> they are. they are trained. >> unless it is mr. ed, you really don't know. they may look at you and say nay. >> they are trained. >> they could be trained to sit in a field and eat fermented -- >> stand up. had enough. jay this is interesting.