remember, liam nissan appeared as kinsey in a fox feature film, showing he was this wonderful man who did all these good things for us. now he is everywhere. the swiss did major documentary last year identifying kinsey as the basis for the horrific sex educational program. and in the philippines he is involved in every aspect. the guy who revolutionized sex for us and said you could do all these things with no downside. well, okay. people, we have had some serious downsides, you know. we have the pentagon now, how many guys were found using child pornography in the pentagon. we have judge whose have been picked up. presidents of universities. football coaches and so forth, and people are being told it was always like this. well, i halve news for you people, it was not always like this. >> host: when did you first get interested in this research you're doing? >> guest: well, actually, it always comes down to something like this. very personal. i was living in a sort of nostalgic little world, writing for captain kangaroo, singing songs, doing television for pbs, nbc, and my daughter wa