. -- libby. so the convention on physical protection of nuclear materials, international atomic energy agency, additional protocols, the global initiative to combat nuclear terrorism, u.n. security council resolutions and all those things. one of the reasons i think it will focus on this because not all of the 47 countries are coming have signed up to these agreements. in fact of the 46 foreign countries invited to the summit, 11 only, only 11 ratified the amendment to the physical convention, physical protection convention. 37 have signed the ieaa additional protocol and 34 members of the global initiative to combat nuclear terrorism. so i think the president would like to come out the other end with all the participating countries signed up to the key existing mechanisms. the second thing that i think they like to see is specific countries coming to the table with plans for how they intend to improve their nuclear security at home. with the idea, i think, to have a specific work plan that will

we need to move as libby said towards more stringent global standards for security. we don't necessarily need the same level of security everywhere because there are countries like pakistan where threats are higher, they need even more but we need a baseline everywhere given we're facing terrorists with global reach. >> go ahead. >> circle back to the second question about institutional oversight. iaea on voluntary states can request iaea come in and help them formulate their nuclear security, sort of a road map or plan but again that is all on a voluntary arery basis without a baseline that is ad hoc anybody can assess what threat they think is prevalent in that particular country or region on. and just to, but i do think that the iaea is the right place to focus. and of course they will need a much-expanded mandate and greater capacity if they will tackle that aspect of the agenda as well. i want to circle back to matt's point on sustainability and it's a little bit of a profile in terms of the 20 years of efforts to deal with the wmd threat in general but the u.s.

so that was just sort of a twist, sort of the kind of corporate version of the scooter libby use of confidential sources. so anyway, okay. >> that actually reminds me in the context of whistleblowers, it is common for the employer to then use off the record or background information to trash on the whistleblower, to try to get some traction against an employee. there are famous cases, for example, the linda tripp case where they went into her security file. .. >> next, president obama speaks in north carolina on the economy and the health care. >> then the student cam winner max benning. then your calls and comments on wurnl. -- "washington journal." >> this week, a moot court on whether zens with be denied a life-saving vaccine. among those attending, ken star, dean of pep dine university. "america and the courts" today on c-span. >> this weeked on c-span2's booktv, rebecca skloot on "the immortal life of henrietta lacks." also, "stuper-power illusions" by jack matlock. also, "the history of white people." >> the minute the wall street firms were in the business of harvesting middle class ameri

so that was just sort of a twist, sort of the kind of corporate version of the scooter libby use of confidential sources. so anyway, okay. >> that actually reminds me in the context of whistleblowers, it is common for the employer to then use off the record or background information to trash on the whistleblower, to try to get some traction against an employee. there are famous cases, for example, the linda tripp case where they went into her security file. .. the government itself that has tremendous access to information that can smear people go into their files and do the smear on the whistleblower. the privacy act in fact, was enacted in 1976 because that is exactly what happened with the daniel elsberg where the government went into certain classified government records just to obtain damaging information to smear him it does cut both ways, and it's an issue that's out there. >> question? >> out of the events so successful in getting into the media? >> that is a question i was going to ask our friends in the media. the question and i haven't i don't know the answer to that, but the question

so that was just sort of a twist, sort of the kind of corporate version of the scooter libby use of confidential sources. so anyway, okay. >> that actually reminds me in the context of whistleblowers, it is common for the employer to then use off the record or background information to trash on the whistleblower, to try to get some traction against an employee. there are famous cases, for example, the linda tripp case where they went into her security file. .. >> question? >> out of the events so successful in getting into the media? >> that is a question i was going to ask our friends in the media. the question and i haven't i don't know the answer to that, but the question that i have to the panel is it there were two or three things when they whistle-blower comes ford initially to get on first base what are you looking at in a whistle-blower that says this might be something worthy of a full investigation for a few starts investigation and what are the guidepost you are looking at? i don't know the answer. >> it is the thumb rule of let you look at when you whistle-blower has some of the nega

what a great example when scooter libby tried to be called a congressional source because it worked for 20 years before and went to the judy miller case. it's important for me to be accurate getting the description of an anonymous source and background is essential. there's a thing called the background which is in a more vague description of u.n. off the record, this is an important one in understanding. between this and another record, i can't use it because it came to me, but don't the get of them for my reporting. i'm going to find a website about. and so understand that a journalist when you talk off the record there going to find another way to get that information and they almost certainly will. working to understand this for terms because the day died the relationship going forward about the cents each side has wants the understand the conversation. the third element is stressed. you have to build to build a relationship of trust. i've had whistleblowers what ended a series of stories that they thought they were getting divorced for me because we spent more time with each other

we'll hear from libby next. >> you're going to hear a reiteration of a couple of matt's final points here in a moment. i was tasked with offering sort of an overview of ongoing initiatives both multilateral and some u.s.-prompted efforts. but a rough profile of the existing framework suggests the formidable challenge of pivoting, if you will, from a cold war focus to one primarily concerned with terrorist threats and proliferation. having said that, it appears as alex alluded to that the nuclear posture review tries to make just that pivot. terrorist in rogue states is key elements of our strategy rather than former rising potential adversaries. put simply the internet framework must -- but creating and implementing a nuclear security framework requires first achieving consensus regarding the threat. and then making the resources available to address the agreed-upon objectives. it's fair to say that the u.s. has provided formidable leadership in this domain since the end of the cold war. not just in budgetary means but also in launching various efforts to address the threat. of cours

scooter libby tried to be called a congressional source in the judy miller case. getting the source on background is essential. there is a thing called deep background, which is more vague. off the record, if you tell me something off the record, i can't use it because it came from you. i'm going to go try to find out what that is about. understand that a journalist, when you talk to them off the record, they won't quote you. they build a sense of trust. the third element is trust. you have to be able to build a relationship of trust. i've had whistleblowers. they felt like they were getting divorced from me because we had spent more time with each other than with our wives and kids. you spent a lot of time getting to know the person and their pressures and you have to build trust. one of the things the journalist does to build trust is to verify information. you have to be able to have a candid conversation and say that doesn't seem to check out. that relationship of trust protects the public's interest of making sure what we report ultimately is accurate and pre

we had had a series of scandals, jack abramoff, tom delay, scooter libby, mark foley, the mood change out there was pervasive. the democratic voters were hypermotivated. the republican voters were lethargic. independent voters swung by an 18-point margin by democrats and boom, big midterm election. democrats pick up 30 seats in the house and control the house. 6 senate seats and control the senate. big old election pushes them way up. then you had the 2008 election. now, president obama -- excuse me, president bush's approval rates weren't in the 30 ratings. they were 26%. the war in iraq was getting better but oh, the economy had collapsed. the time for change movement was just as pervasive. republican voters were still lethargic and not particularly energized by senator john mccain's candidacy. democratic voters were hypermotivated. and you had young voters and minority voters that were particularly worked up and energized and exercised. and they were voting for barack obama. and while they were there they were going to vote for anybody with a blue jersey on. and then independent vo

guest: thank you, libby. it was great.: coming up, at zalmay khalilzad, but first, a news update from c-span radio. >> in the headlines, president obama is focusing on his upcoming nomination to the supreme court today as he meets in a couple of hours with democratic and republican senators who will control the confirmation fight ahead. he has started talking informally with potential nominees. an explosion and fire at an oil drilling platform off the coast of louisiana has left at least 11 and as many as 15 people missing. the coast guard says there are conflicting reports. several workers have been hospitalized and no word on the cause of the explosion. a final farewell today for civil-rights leader benjamin hooks with political and civil rights leaders across the country expected to attend his pindell in memphis. the 85-year-old former lawyer and judge and naacp director died at his home after a long illness. the president at spirit airlines says that there has been no significant fallout from his airline's new charge f

we had had a series of scandals, jack abramoff, tom delay, scooter libby, mark foley, the mood change out there was pervasive. the democratic voters were hypermotivated. the republican voters were lethargic. independent voters swung by an 18-point margin by democrats and boom, big midterm election. democrats pick up 30 seats in the house and control the house. 6 senate seats and control the senate. big old election pushes them way up. then you had the 2008 election. now, president obama -- excuse me, president bush's approval rates weren't in the 30 ratings. they were 26%. the war in iraq was getting better but oh, the economy had collapsed. the time for change movement was just as pervasive. republican voters were still lethargic and not particularly energized by senator john mccain's candidacy. democratic voters were hypermotivated. and you had young voters and minority voters that were particularly worked up and energized and exercised. and they were voting for barack obama. and while they were there they were going to vote for anybody with a blue jersey on. and then independent vo

rating that they use the fdic is assessing the risk of the insurance fund with the libby rating it's called. the ratings differ somewhat, and i will go into the detail on them, but the point want to get to is, is whether or not from what you saw, you had ots and fdic working together here, or whether or not there was something appropriate blocking of access by ots to fdic's access to the bank. we've gone through some of the documents i believe already, and i think you're familiar with them. are you, mr. rymer? both of you, in your judgment, whether or not ots should have allowed the fdic to help your? >> yes, sir. , i think -- it's good to me that they should have. i think the fdic in backup backf examination authority in requesting 2005, six, seven and eight indicated their concerns. and those concerns were principally driven by its own lending analysis. not to go into too much of the detail, but the analysis is looking a little bit broader and broader indicators than just the internal operations of the bank that is looking at competitive factors and michael economic factors. in an

guest: a very nice to be with you, libby. host: we now go to the house of representatives but that is all for "washington journal" to date we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] . speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., april 21, 2010. i hereby appoint the honorable ed pastor to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, nancy pelosi, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the prayer will be offered by our gast chaplain, his imminence, archbishop herman, apostolic church of america. the chaplain: almighty god, we seek your grace and wisdom in our lives and in our leaders that they may serve your people with truth and justice. remember your faithful servants, the armenian people, who have lived with the memory of the genocide of 1 1/2 million of their nation. we pray that such barbariety may never inflict upon any of your creatures. we give thanks for

we had had a series of scandals, jack abramoff, tom delay, scooter libby, mark foley, the mood change out there was pervasive. the democratic voters were hypermotivated. the republican voters were lethargic. independent voters swung by an 18-point margin by democrats and boom, big midterm election. democrats pick up 30 seats in the house and control the house. 6 senate seats and control the senate. big old election pushes them way up. then you had the 2008 election. now, president obama -- excuse me, president bush's approval rates weren't in the 30 ratings. they were 26%. the war in iraq was getting better but oh, the economy had collapsed. the time for change movement was just as pervasive. republican voters were still lethargic and not particularly energized by senator john mccain's candidacy. democratic voters were hypermotivated. and you had young voters and minority voters that were particularly worked up and energized and exercised. and they were voting for barack obama. and while they were there they were going to vote for anybody with a blue jersey on. and then independent vo