tavis: i am glad you raised the commutation of the scooter libby sentence. scudder libby took a dive or got caught and some folks much higher up got away, namely the cheney and george bush. in politics, it always seems to be the case that the guys at the top almost never get caught, but the ad visors, the aids around them into taking the fall. i think oliver north in the reagan administration. is there something about politics vs. business? you want the president to send a signal, but the body politic is the worst example where people at the top or always accountable. >> probably the most vivid illustration where you see it raw power tromping of the legal obligation to tell the truth. it is so serious because the president of the united states and the vice-president, these are the two highest law enforcement officers in the country. what message is sent to everyone involved in the legal system when the president of the united states, after saying i will not tolerate this, when confronted with that in his own administration, looks the other way, does not make

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mohammed and al-libbi both lied about the courier convincing the cia he was important. after years of intelligence gathering from a variety of sources that courier ultimately lead directly to the al qaeda leader. >> the question that everybody will always debate is whether or not those approaches had to be used in order to get the same information, and that frankly is an open question. >> i saw people used enhanced interrogation techniques they never worked. >> reporter: author and former senior military interrogator matthew alexander was involved in more than 1,300 interrogations in iraq in 2006. he says aggressive techniques are not only wrong, they can be a waste of valuable time. >> i watched a soldier and he grabbed a detainee that i was interrogating and began to choke him, and i had to physically intervene to stop him, and then my detainee quit talking. >> reporter: the white house is not ruling out the possibility that some useful information may have been obtained during those enhanced interrogations. instead, they remain focused on what was overall an intellig

the lie of khalid shaikh mohammed, the lie of al libbi.en lying about this courier made them understand that, in fact, the courier was actually important because they knew from other sources that the courier had been a protÉge of k.s.m. and he made believe he didn't know who he was. so bingo, right? then they had to go about finding him. >> reporter: investigators established the courier's name and begin to monitor his family's phone calls and e-mails. >> once they established one cell phone call then it was a question of making inquiries at the ground level, listening out for further calls. they were beginning to close in on him at this stage. what we believe happened is that al kuwaiti was tracked to a particular vehicle and once they found that vehicle perhaps in the environs of peshawar it was waiting to see where he went. >> last august, august 2010, they finally had the courier lead them to the compound. my source said to me -- one of my sources said to me, when we got a picture of that compound we said, wow, this is different. >> re

one of the interesting things here is that they went to khalid shaikh mohammed and al libby, ka leeldhake mohammad had been water boarded 183 times. >> they asked him what he knows about the courier. >> and khalid shaikh mohammed was completely dismissive, completely dismissive of who this person wud was and said, not important. and it was the lie, as my source said, that was alerting. the lie of khalid shaikh mohammed the lie of al libby, those two men lying about this courier made them understand that, in fact, the courier was actually important because they knew from other sources that the courier had been a protege of ksm. and he made it believe he didn't know who it was. so bingo, right? so then they had to go about finding him. >> reporter: investigators established the courier's name and begin to monitor his family's phone calls and e-mails. >> once they have established one cell phone call, then it was a question of making inquiries at the ground level, listening for any further calls. they were beginning to close in on him at this stage. what we believe happened is that abu a

particularly of two high value individuals, khalid shaikh khalid sheikh mohammed, and abu farah al libbi. that is very clear. but you say it could have done it another way, maybe, but wasn't done another way in this particular instance. >> fair enough. i don't know where i stand -- i don't like waterboarding, i tell you who does, some people do, but the freezing of the guy the freezing of him to the point where he is in the hospital a couple of times, i don't think geneva would accept that, do you do you think that is consistent with the geneva conventions, freezing somebody to the point where they go to the hospital a couple of time? >> here is what i think, chris and i think you may agree with me, what you should have is strict sets of procedures you can use if you need to in high-value case, some cases, only the president should be able to sign off and say, you can do this. >> no matter what always. >> i love the idea that the president has to do it, he is commander in chief and also defend us ultimately, the trouble is trying to get these guys put their signature on a torture order.

tremendous enthusiasm and spirit that continues to drive libby's revolution. it will be tempted when they tried to build a new nation, if and when the gaddafi false. >> back here in the united states, this month marks the anniversary of the freedom ride when people came from across the country to protest segregated bus stations in the south. they encourage officials to enforce a desegregation law passed a year before. many were beaten and jailed before eventually achieving their goal. she shares her first-person account while touring a freedom ride exhibit in jackson, mississippi. >> my name is carol ruth silver. i was a freedom rider in 1961 in jackson, mississippi. i was ready to leave and go back to school when the freedom rides began. the newspapers were full of the burning of the bus in alabama and the beatings of freedom riders. every newspaper had headlines. it was the biggest story of the day. i had been a member of the congress of racial equality. when they announced that they were calling for freedom riders to come and continue the rides and fill the

moscow ladies catch the eye of roy jones jr ahead of the showdown with russian libby day. but first fresh doping claims have been made against seven time tour de france winner lance armstrong former teammate tyler hamilton has accused him of taking the performance enhancing drug in the nine hundred ninety nine tour he made the claims during an interview on the c.b.s. program sixty minutes and said here and on the strong scene here used e.p.o. while they were riding for the u.s. postal team armstrong won seven tour de france titles between one thousand nine hundred ninety and two thousand and five but is always denied taking performance enhancing drugs and has never failed a drug test unlike hamilton he was banned for two years in two thousand and five another former teammate floyd landis made similar allegations a year ago a federal investigation into alleged doping by the u.s. postal team is ongoing. and other news the french open is just a couple of days away and one of russia's main hopes seems to be peaking at the right time world number three it is one of the over rea

but despite almost went the full ten rounds just fourteen seconds before the final bell dennis libby did produce a great flurry of punches and roy jones jr sprawling to the ground as the referee had to sort of points might have started out as big a very key of both boxers really checking each other out split ready by the third or fourth round didn't lead it ever taken control of a buyout and really had roy jones jr in a lot of trouble coming and avoids all the expense of wonder with roy jones jr still have a speed which made him such an excellent house for best pound for pound points in the world but it was so evident that he didn't he didn't have the speed he wouldn't was unable to trouble a video of and really little as one of the stronger punches in the cruiserweight division rogers really in all sorts of trouble and really could have ended up point earlier but it was really a shame to watch show roy jones jr struggle so much he's been what a great his fight is probably ever seen in his heyday but of course he just had no arms to the strength of live and of course he wants his spe

still to this is particular to the terms even looks to have the edge in speed but he's young rival but libby did get hurt using his youth and pole work to pull the former champion and keep him. well the rubes just main point with a couple of the wonders of his prime i could do the most good i wouldn't expose it finished from the russian who was to decide the birth of a blizzard the pope punches sending jews to the canvas in a new coat when in the last seconds of the tenth room i know paul came as a surprise not only for all but truly a for all. i thought about there was none of. you forget the ground here the people here the final bell and then it will get worse call them good prognosis what the doctors would have said. they would have gone are the right side of the shell shoulder level first of all comes to good show and he kept his word still he did his best on time to the great wrong i've become a better fighter to despise it when i was constantly trying to hit wrong with my left hand counterpunch but always failed and you can design has told me that he'd figured out my plan was right hun

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in most skilled with turtles a steak libby defender the point is the hope favorite but jones crudely proved that he skipped some of historical withering career still continues and spectacular it turns even looks to have their age in st paul but he's young rival but limited good heart is in his youth and poll work to pull on the former champion and keep him on tour. it's juicy main point with a couple of reminders of his prime i could do the most good i will expose the fish from the russian who was to decide the bertil at blizzard the pope punches sending jews to the canvas in a new coat when in the last seconds of the tense ground i know how it came as a surprise not only for all but truly as well. i thought about what learned. to go through around here everybody will hear the final bell and then it will hear first call out and good god knows what the judges would have said and how they would have gone are the right side of the show cheryl because all first of all i want to promise to good show and he kept his words he did his best sometimes to the great wrong i've become a better fi

to still tennis in spectacular times even looks to have the edge in speed over his young rival but libby did it hard using his youth and power to pull on the former champion and keep him on the ropes juicer main point with a couple from other stuff he's drawn to do the most to get. i couldn't expose the finish from the russian who was to decide the battle of blues or the pope punches sendings jones to the canvas in a new kilt when in the last seconds of the two from. the know how came as a surprise not only for all of the family of the world. but i thought about what none of. to get around. that he will hear the final bell and then hold their first call out and here god knows what the others would have said. they would have gone are the hard shell show because all first of all comes to a good show and he kept his word still he did his best sometimes to the great wrong i've become a better fighter to the spouts in. i was constantly trying to hit ruin with my last term counterpunch would always failed lucan designs told me that he figured my drive hundreds were too fast and spontaneous my

brushing up on comedy news libby did not sound boxing legend roy jones jr in the big bike here in moscow. bill's from ari and zuba gives a countable win over across the are moving them up to the russian premier league. and little will be crowned french champions next week after having secured their domestic island south a taste to all joy games. so we started boxing denise slated to be the legendary oil jones jr instead of these big bout here in moscow the russian winning by knockout in the dying moments of the fight to retain his reputation as one of the world's toughest cruiserweight boxers. has more. julieann thank you. he might be forty keys and was his best but he still rated as being one of the greatest players of all time. champ and over four different weight. ever jewels in the drugs. champ and still being loudly in the books in the world. this will it takes to face one of the most deadliest punchers in the division russia's cruiserweight played in its lead with the self most low left helping claim sixteen zero to zero his twenty one wins play no hayles in most skilled with no ti

president of the islamic leadership council of new york and his attorney mo is libby from the unit united it firm of carolina law and that is going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our t.v. dot com slash usa and follow me on twitter at lauren lyster until then until tomorrow have a good night. issues the same up charge for your boss there's taliban with the killing of osama bin laden u.s. president barack obama has a historic opportunity and chemistry will he use it and what is the downside. me eat. alone. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world. the future of covered. download the official m c allocation show on phone on called touch from the choose ops to. love life on the go. video on demand. little girls and r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. machine on. a timer here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. the mission is free cretaceous free in-store chargers free arrangements free risk free. free. download free blog. video for your media project c.e.o. don carty dot com. keep. looking. a li

have to remain in jail until two thousand and sixteen together with his ex business partners like the libby defense means five more years of prison for both of them they were arrested back in two thousand and three and since stand they were convicted twice the last hearing of their case to place names of last year and back then the verdict was for the both of them to remain in jail until two thousand and seventeen however they've appealed and the court has to be assessed the amounts of money that's they've stolen and has cut down the term for both of them by one year nonetheless they're still being accused of embezzling men's money laundering and self. terms of tons of serial tens of billions of u.s. dollars worth of oil however because it eclipsed he does not agree with this ruling this woman had a full what used to be one of bush's biggest oil companies and he says he's now going to appeal to the european court all right. it's very much for that. because our reporting there. are russian authorities are stepping up the war on drugs in a country but first some of the speed of progress just

. >> we're hearing for libby's brother for the first time, >> she has always been a kind sister, shes always protected me ever since our mother passed away 10 years ago wad she became a mother figure to me. she did not deserve this to happen to our. i just wonder on >> please family is from san francisco and her father is traveling from vietnam. >> new on the bryan stowe be the case. the mother of the only man arrested is speaking out she of on their were mayor is a smaller. >> my son does not like sports he would never do something like down >> we have evidence that what eventually will setup ge bought a free >> or mayor is being held on a $1 million bail ask for parole violation and he is also a documented a gang member. california should be proud. we were the first to ban smoking on airplanes. the first to have smoke-free bars and restaurants. all while saving over $86 billion in health care costs... and over a million lives. we've done a good job. but even if you were born today, you'd still grow up in a world where tobacco kills more people... than aids, drugs, alcohol, murder a

news the original tip came unwittingly from 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed and abu farraj al libbi while both were in cia custody. under aggressive interrogations both denied that they knew bin laden's trusted courier, raising suspicions that courier was the closest link to the al qaeda leader. >> we got incredibly valuable data after we interrogated suspects. different question about whether the american people think those are appropriate. but the data i saw were hugely valuable. >> reporter: then last july came the first big break. cia operatives tracked down the courier on the streets of peshawar, pakistan and eventually tracked him to this massive compound 35 miles north of islamabad. from then on the compound was under heavy cia and satellite surveillance. and although bin laden himself was never spotted, intelligence officials became convinced he was there. >> putting this together was not an easy feat. it meant a sustained analysis over a substantial period of time. >> reporter: last friday president obama considered the intelligence compelling enough to order the attack on

by this time, they have caught khalid sheikh mohammed, and abu al libby, the number three guy, and they guys, supposingly, the courier is close to them and they say, yeah, vaguely familiar with that name, but really don't know the name. they now tell us what was unsaid was just as important as what was said. explain that. >> well, i think that's really critical here. and i think to this story overall, what's most important is if you look at exactly what it is that the agency did here, this went over years -- i mean, frequently, intelligence work, interrogation work, all of this is slow prodding, sometimes very, very boring work. it's about acquiring information, it's about gaining trust, it's about checking leads, re-checking leads, going back to those that you worked, convince them to help you further. al of these are things that are critical. if you use the sort of "24" jack bauer-esque approach to the world, you somehow find the magic bullet and save the world. but that's not how it works. it's a slow process. you have to go through all of the steps and use all the assets at your dis

underwent torture under bush said information provided by khalid shaikh mohammed and abu far reek al libbyas the courier was the information that eventually led to the location of bin laden's compound and the information that led to his death. there we have the guy, rodriguez, credible or not as a person reporting on this? he was part of the problem back then that we all know about. >> well, i it think he has great insights because he was there, but i think, again, with other professionals who dealt with interrogation would say that that's source but it's not the best source and, in fact, because of the legal complications, it's something that not only doesn't give us valuable -- vital information sometimes but it also leads us intense criticism. frankly, i think looking back over these years and i think this should be a very thorough analysis, as leon suggests, of what contributed to our ultimate success, but looking back on it it was putting together lots of different pieces of information and the inference that i have and i think senator feinstein has reflected, is that a lot of this in

you said that moammar gadhafi's exit from libby is inevitable and that the u.s.ntil his attacks stop. does that mean you'll committee is to the campaign until cannot is removed from power? and would you be willing to commit u.s. resources if that means speeding up the gadhafi's exit? prime minister cameron, deeply the u.s. and other nato allies should increase their role in the libyan campaign as of the british lawmakers have suggested? thank you. >> i have said from the outset that our goal, the reason that we intervened in libya, was to protect people on the ground. and to give the libyan people the space that they needed in order to bring about a change towards democracy. and i also was very clear in terms of how we're going to participate. we would very heavily on the front end, disabling their air defense systems, carrying the lion's share of the burden when it came to setting the stage for nato operations, and then that once the transfer took place to nato command and control, that at that point our primary role would be a whole range of support that utiliz

al libbi once a battlefield commander in afghanistan who rose to prominence from bagram.ind of a plot last year to target europe. it will take a herculean effort for any of them to manage the network like bin laden did. >> they don't have anybody now who will have the star power, the brand name of bin laden, and it's not good to have six people trying to fill in his shoes. >> reporter: analysts say if no leader steps to the fore immediately it doesn't make al qaeda less dangerous. at least in the short term, they say, look for the threats to spike as the network seeks to avenge bin laden. >> brian todd joins us from washington. brian, other potential al qaeda leaders would be hard pressed to bring in the same kind of money that bin laden did, right? >> reporter: that's right, carol. that's something that's not talked about right way in these days after bin laden's death. he was a really effective funnel for cash for al qaeda for many, many years. he had wealthy saudi contacts who would send him money, he had family connections from a very wealthy saudi family, and most of

. >> let me start off, we have a war in afghanistan and plainly we have one in libby and maybe elsewhere. we do not yet have officially a war in pakistan but we are certain of finding against the government of pakistan. so we face a problem that we had and did not. we have a sanctuary across the border from afghanistan, where terrorists or insurgents can freely move back and forth. people ask, why don't you see of the border? and i say well, okay, let's seal the border from maine to key west because that's the length of the border between pakistan and afghanistan. so roughly speaking. so that's obviously an impossible task. so we need the cooperation of the pakistani government to stop the cross-border insurgency. the problem though is from the perspective, they are quite satisfied to fight the pakistani taliban. they do not want afghan taliban to be their war. they do not want -- attack with very energetically, let's say, anything having to do with the afghan taliban. there are other terrorist groups and insurgent groups and smugglers who operate across the same border, the haqqani netw

in fact, some 40 of the key al- qaeda operatives including chief operation officer faraj al libbi andkhalid shaikh mohammad, the master planner of 9/11 were captured by the isi. pakistan's armed forces also carried out successful operations in swat, malakand, south waziristan, mohmand and bajour agencies against terrorists and militants. no other country in the world and no other security agency has done so much to interdict al-qaeda than the isi and our armed forces. this was done with the full support of the nation and in accordance with the political will articulated by the parliament of pakistan. it is disingenuous for anyone to blame pakistan or state institutions of pakistan including the isi and the armed forces for being in cahoots with the al-qaeda. it was al-qaeda and its affiliates that carried out hundreds of suicide bombings in nearly every town and city of pakistan and also targeted political leaders, state institutions, the isi and the general headquarters. the obvious question that has vexed everyone is how could osama bin laden hide in plain sight in the scenic surrou

caller: good morning, congressman andrews, good morning, libby. a few points and some questions.far as the occupation, as far as i know, the taliban was a terror organization that was terrorizing their own people, their own women. that is a fact. i believe is a peace mission now. -- it is a peace mission now. on how we pulled out of iraq and focus on afghanistan? we cannot pull out of afghanistan if there is still terror among the people. it does not make sense. and about obama getting a bad beat. it is possibly the way that we got this information, waterboarding, and what not. thank you. peace is priceless. a afghans need it. god bless america. >> i agree -- guest: i agree with your premise we cannot leave afghanistan if there is a viable force of the taliban that would recreate a base for al qaeda that we set to destroy. i believe, based upon the facts on the ground, we are headed toward the day this summer where that base is substantially degraded, and over a period of 12 months or so, will be largely gone. that is the justification for an expedited withdrawal from afghanistan

she has got libby from the ndp. natalie? here with the deputy leader of the official opposition has got to be a bittersweet night for you. >> well i tell you it's a very historic moment for the ndp, the offical opposition and i feel very proud of our leaders and for all that he's done. he has run a magnificent campaign and i think that what he said designated with people across the country and we are now awaiting the results in british columbia. >> to the campaign proved to be the spoiler as we look at a number with a conservative majority possible? >> we have to ask the question what is an election about? each party gets out there and they do their very best and we had our best and this is the result. we can see a lot of high-profile liberals lost the conservatives in ontario and elsewhere. but i the thing for this moment we are thinking about what we did in the ndp and we ran a great campaign. our leader i think is very focused. he spoke to the priorities people spoke about so we understand about the opposition means added

to libby, said congress should not be forcing the american party award hell or from hell award goes tois smiley. ♪ it's the end of the world as we know it it's the end of the world as we with know it it's the -- ♪ >> the tea party every day who are recently arrested for making threats against elected officials, for calling people nigge are r as theywall walked into capitol hill, for spitting on people. ♪ it's the end of the world as we know it and i feel fine ♪ >> tavis smiley couldn't be here tonight because the media research center wouldn't fly him first class. which made them, of course, racist. so, to accept the tea party from hell award on behalf of tavis smiley, two people most qualified, and these people i think look, they truly are heroes. i was talking to the young lady i'm going to be introducing in a second and a couple of years action she was cleaning houses with her husband to keep a roof over their head instead of begging for government help, was a computer programmer, absolutely one of my heroes, here are the founders of the tea party patriots, ladies and gentlemen, jen