i'm not sure -- >> how many times has he said he's going to retire >> well, so did i don't know, liberace >> he stayed on for a while i guess. >> i know. that's okay. >> michael, ab gaye disney said that mr. iger paid $65 million, was too high relative to the kps median pay of employees. it was over 1,000 times the multiple do you agree things are getting a bit stretched not in the absolute but relative to the great employees who deliver for him every day? >> look, my view on this is an employee whether he's the ceo or less, actually does something that has an impact on the economy. i mean a major impact which bob has had. i think he deserves to being paid well. what i object to is the employee's ceo otherwise, they ride a wave, they don't do anything, they're part of a stock option plan. it results in multi, multimillions of dollars not for performance. i think you pay for performance. the issue about the rest of t the -- i believe the higher minimum wage i think people who have done well should pay taxes. and these are two separate issues they really are. >> i wanted to ask finally abou