alliance has been weakened under the democratic party government. >> abe says the liberal democratic party is well prepared for the election. he says it has reviewed its principles and streamlined its policies. there were mixed reactions from people around japan. >> translator: we are suffering so much in fukushima since last year's disaster. i don't understand why politicians cannot work together. >> translator: fukushima is slowly but steadily moving forward in its recovery. it would be regrettable if the momentum slows in the coming weeks. >> translator: i've been looking for a job for two months. i just want the government to create more jobs. >> a business leader expressed his hopes. >> translator: the private sector is trying its utmost to survive. we hope politicians will create a society and nation where those who make efforts are duly rewarded. >>> campaign managers are already busy mapping out their tactics. nhk world's senior political commentator masayo nakajima has charted the strategy of countless campaigns. i asked him earlier what voters are thinking about. >> well, so

alliance has been weakened under the democratic party government. >> abe says the liberal democratic party is well prepared for the election. he says it has reviewed its principles and streamlined its policies. >>> yoshihiko noda is the third prime minister to lead japan since the democratic party took power. he's been in the job for a little more than a year. here's a look at some of the challenges he faced. >> reporter: yoshihiko noda replaced the prime minister who lost support over his handling of the fukushima power plant accident. overseas media focused on the fact that noda was japan's sixth prime minister in five years and questioned whether he could form a stable government. >> translator: i'm determined to do everything possible to move politics forward using a down-to-earth approach. >> reporter: noda identified three top priorities for his administration -- reconstruction from the march, 2011 earthquake and tsunami, containment of the fukushima nuclear accident, and fiscal restructuring and economic growth. the new prime minister called on all main parties to tackle the is

alliance has been weakened under the democratic party government. >> abe says the liberal democratic party is well prepared for the election. he says it has reviewed its principles and streamlined its policies. there were mixed reactions from people around japan. >> translator: we are suffering so much in fukushima since last year's disaster. i don't understand why politicians cannot work together. >> translator: fukushima is slowly but steadily is moving forward in its recovery. it would be regrettable if the momentum slows in the coming weeks. >> translator: i've been looking for a job for two months. i just want the government to create more jobs. >> a business leader expressed his hopes. >> translator: the private sector is trying its utmost to survive. we hope politicians will create a society and nation where those who make efforts are duly rewarded. >>> campaign managers are already busy mapping out their tactics. nhk world's senior political commentator masayo nakajima has charted the strategy of countless campaigns. i asked him earlier what voters are thinking about. >> well,

the democratic party leadership plans to endorse candidates only if they accept certain policies. >> i feel a strong affection for the democratic party. i let the liberal democratic party to create the dpj. so this is a matter of great personal importance to me. >> he is opposed to japan joining the talks on the transpacific partnership free trade agreement. in june he voted against a government plan to raise the consumption tax. the party responded by suspending his membership for three months. he became prime minister in 2009 after leading the democratic party to victory in the lower house election. he could not keep his promise to relocate the u.s. marine corps air station outside japan or at least outside okinawa prefecture, so he resigned in 2010. his government eventually agreed with the u.s. to move the facility to nago okinawa and that was similar to one signed in 2006 when the liberal democratic party held the reins of government. >>> north korean officials are trying to drum up more foreign investment. once again they turned to their main ally china and invited the heads of 40 chinese companies for a week long industrial tour. north krooe's f

they forged an agreement with the main opposition liberal democratic party. >> translator: we've decided to stop the campaign on december 4th and hold the election on the 16th. >> the acting secretary general of the democratic party announced the date after a meeting of senior government and party officials. the lead up to the decision played out on wednesday in the diet. noda debated theshingo leader. they said the ldp kept its part of the deal and helped the bills become law. the liberal democrats also agreed to back a bill to issue deficit covering bonds, but the prime minister added another condition. he demanded the ldp support a bill to reduce the number of seats in the lower house. ldp officials later announced they will cooperate with noda and the dpj. official campaigning for the general election starts on december 4th. jap be a niece voteless than two weeks later, on the 16th. >>> nhk world senior political commentator joins us. what prompted the prime minister to act? >> they met all the conditions the prime minister set including helping to pass bills to enact the budget cutt

the two choices were the incumbent yoshihiko noda, who heads the democratic party, or shinzo abe, leader of the opposition's liberal democratic party. 21% of respondents chose noda. 26% favored abe. but almost half, or 49%, said they wanted neither. >>> japan's top government spokesperson says officials are gathering information in anticipation of a possible missile launch by north korea. u.s. satellite images indicate north korea recently transported what are thought to be long-range ballistic missile parts. japan chief cabinet secretary osamu fujimura says his government closely monitors missile-related activities in north korea. >> translator: we will work harder to gather and analyze information and will continue to take thorough measures to secure the peace and safety of the country. >> fujimura denied that north korea's recent action will have immediate impact on talks between the two countries. he said they're making preparations for the next round of talks. >>> a u.n. human rights expert says the japanese government should do more to protect the health of people affected by the fukushima nuclear accident. u

democratic party. support for the dpj was down 1.1 percentage point to 12.7%. that's the lowest since the party gained a majority in the lower house. the opposition liberal democratic party, or ldp, fared better. 25% of people supported the party, almost double the figure for the dpj. 45.8% of people say they don't support any party at all. respondents also gave noda's cabinet a support rate of 23%, the lowest since he formed his cabinet in september last year. that's down three percentage points from last month's survey. the cabinet's disapproval rate is also at its highest ever at 59%. nhk also asked respondents if they want japan restoration party leader toru hashimoto to ally with the former tokyo governor ishihara. 47% said they favor an alliance. 48% say they don't seek an alliance. 5% couldn't answer either way. the japan restoration party leader and the former tokyo governor have played big roles in different ways in japan. earlier i spoke with michael ambe, who has covered japanese politics for years. michael, so why do you think these men attract the kind of support they do? >> both hashimoto and ishihara are outspoken politicians, and voters s

the support rate for the democratic party rose nearly five points to 17.4%. that's against 24.7% for the opposition's liberal democratic party. the recently formed japan restoration party scored just below 4%. more than 34% of respondents said they support no particular party. voters were also asked who they would prefer as prime minister between the incumbent yoshihiko noda and ldp leader shinzo abe. 20% chose noda against 27% for abe. 48% said neither would do. >>> chinese authorities are investigating an incident that highlights the social tension bubbling below the surface in that country. hundreds of people in the southern city of fuan clashed with police over a traffic accident saturday, two days after china's new leadership took power. local media say a man without a license drove a car into several vehicles and motorcycles. no one died, but five people were reported injured. bystanders and drivers who were involved in the accident fought with police. they overturned three police vehicles. authorities brought the situation under control by the end of the day. the associated press quoted one resident w

he has followed through on an earlier pledge to call elections after the opposition liberal democratic party agreed it would support several key pieces of legislation including a deficit financing bill and the electoral reforms. the election itself will be held on december 16. the german chancellor angela merkel has arrived in moscow for talks with the russian president vladimir putin. both sides are looking to ease tensions caused by berlin's recent criticism of russian's record on human rights. this is angela merkel has called on cairo to use its influence on cairo to ease heightening tensions in gaza. a yacht that washed up on a deserted island in condo was found with a badly decomposed body on board and 200 kilos of cocaine worth $120 million. the australian federal police said international law people have been monitoring the bozen's when it left south america until they lost contact with the last month. police in a small pacific island nation have not ruled out the population the death was suspicious. -- a boat from tonga. much more ahead. four people have been killed and 17 injured af

the dpj's policy chief met his counterparts from the opposition liberal democratic party and new komeito on tuesday. they agreed on a revision to the deficit bond bill. it's now expected to be enacted soon, allowing the government to fund this year's budget. but some democrats are opposed to an early general election. they say dissolving the lower house would create a political vacuum. they also question the timing after low approval rates for the cabinet and the party in recent polls. >>> one japanese politician can't wait for the election. shintaro ishihara is aiming to shake things up and steer his country right. the former tokyo governor is trying his hand at national politics. he wants to review japan's constitution and strengthen its self-defense forces among other things, all under the name of his newly-launched sunrise party. nhk world's mitsuko nishikawa reports. >> translator: i will fight against the existing major older parties such as the ldp and dpj, and new komeito. we will challenge them, otherwise japan won't change. i am thinking of uniting other smaller parties in orde

. >> one of noda's main opponents, liberal democratic party leader shinzo abe said nuclear power should not be a matter of black or white. >> translator: after experiencing such a severe nuclear accident, we've all decided that japan should depend on nuclear power as little as possible. but the ldp's position is not to simply say let's go nuclear-free. that's because we're a responsible party. >> abe said the real issue is how to secure enough electricity. he added it would be unreasonable to rely on renewable energy sources as they have yet to be fully developed. the leader of the newly formed tomorrow party, yukiko kada, called for an end to nuclear power generation within a decade. she added her party would push for electricity conservation measures and the development of alternative sources of energy. japan restoration party leader and former tokyo governor shintaro ishihara said people who talk about reducing nuclear power should think first about the country's energy mix. he called for simulations to determine whether japan can afford to shut down its nuclear plants. >>> official

take, for example, shinzo abe, who is the president of the liberal democratic party. he is suggesting that several unorthodox measures be taken by the boj, including the direct underwriting of jgbs, as you can see on the screen. he says, we, the government, would conduct necessary public investment, possibly have the boj buy all construction bonds. now, in response, the prime minister of japan, yoshihiko noda, he's conservative. he emphasizes fiscal discipline as it is also seen on the screen, and as well the independence of the central bank. so mr. taya, as a former policy board member, what is your take on these debates, and -- what is your take on these debates? >> well, actually, the new government which is going to be formed next month is not likely to force the bank of japan to underwrite newly issued government bonds, which is prohibited by the fiscal. i think any amendment to one of the most fundamental laws like fiscal law is not likely to be changed easily. so i do not expect the bank -- i mean the government is going to force the bank to comply with the pre

country's prime minister dissolving the lower house of parliament that's after the opposition liberal democratic party agreed to buy key legislation including the deficit financing and electro reforms the l.d.p. is expected to snap up the most seats but will likely fall far short of the much obvious heat that could result in a weak and divided coalition government as the country struggles with a two decade long economic slump. bottled former cia director david petraeus says he did not pass classified information to his biographer who had an affair words the former general is being investigated by the cia and claims that he quit key to the sex scandal rather than controversy over their salt on the new us consulate in libya which left four americans dead the tresses due to testify on capitol hill about the matter on friday. to croatian journals convicted of crimes and crimes against humanity of the never which had at the hague. and at large in the market for twenty four and eighteen years respectively for atrocities against hundreds of service during the break up of yugoslavia in one nine hundred ninety

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country's prime minister dissolving the lower house of parliament as after the opposition liberal democratic party agreed to back the legislation including deficit financing and electoral reforms and the l.d.p. is expected to snuff up the most seats but will likely fall far short of a majority that could result in a weakened and divided coalition government the country struggles with a two decade long economic slump. croatian generals convicted of war crimes against humanity have been acquitted at the hague to be in. jail for twenty four and eighteen years respectively for atrocities against hundreds of serbs during the break up with yugoslavia in one thousand nine hundred five they appealed their sentences in may disputing the ever targeted civilians but the men who are heroes at home but always denied wrongdoing. police in england and wales have been given a choice of who they want to see keep the peace in their local areas they voted for police on crime commission as for the first time but the new development it goes hand in hand with old problems of the former london police chief warning that

country that's in an election year japan is about to hold their general elections as well the liberal democratic party has nominated former prime minister shinzo it for the job again here's a clip of him explaining how he wants to improve japan's economy. the economy is going to struggle. for hard. to solve these problems creates a strong. fluid. which basically means printing unlimited until they reach the target for inflation. i should also say i see. a. thing it's also really leaving aside some of the other issues with monetary policy it's really also stupid to want to say well we have to bring a stronger part of japan and everyone could be an exporter. we definitely an export forever and have a. forever someone else is going to be buying those goods and eventually going to china did which is you finance the people that you're selling to eventually you're going to like to have assets that are worthless because you've got bonds of people who can't pay them back so like it's just all part of this that's going to work yeah. this is not completely related but what struck me is monetary policy was being

the country's prime minister dissolving the lower house of parliament after the opposition liberal democratic party agreed to back the legislation including deficit financing and electoral reforms of the l.d.p. is expected to snuff up the most seats but will likely fall far short of a majority that could result in a weakened and divided coalition government the country struggles with a two decade long economic slump. but police in england and wales have been given a choice of who they want to see keep the peace in their local areas they've voted for police and crime commission is now doing it for the first time but the new development goes hand in hand with the old problems of a former london police chief warning that plummeting morale is putting the fight against crime risk laura smith looks at why the force no longer feels it has the government's support. another day another demo and the police all with on hand to keep control but while the boys and girls in blue do their jobs sometimes it impossible conditions the government is reducing their budgets by a massive twenty percent the net result mo

the liberal democratic party keith fergus complain -- complains he compromised excessively in expanding the keith fergus complain -- complains he compromised excessively in expanding the debt level and other legislation. they express concern he did not appear to be a decisive leader with such legislation or in the management of the health care proposals. some of his supporters believe congress was given free rein in the design of health care plan and accused of destroying by partisanship by independents who are concerned by what they see as the inability to meet and negotiate with republican opposition. there can be no question that obama lacked experience in government either as governor or as a long-term member of congress on any phase of business. further his background in academics and as a community organizer offers no evidence of someone who has the fire in his belly to be a leader. he has primarily been a teacher, counselor, adviser and mentor. he had customarily preferred to be very thoughtful in taking time before responding to requests for advice or opinions on matters. he had

they're reacting to repeated calls by opposition of liberal of democratic party for the bank of japan to further ease monetary policy. in the asia pacific region the kospi is up about.9%. in australia the benchmark index is up there about .4. it's intel outside for the boss of the major u.s. jet maker who is taking early retirement. intel has struggled in the global shift. intel officials announced on monday that paul otalini will retire next may. they have started selecting his replacement. he became the fifth ceo in 2005. he built closer ties with apple. int intel's growth slowed as it fell behind in smartphones. intel saw its market value this month beat out by its rival. china has postponed the japanese merger for a third time. they are having to put off plan consolidation of their ship buildings operations. they are waiting on approval from chinese anti-trust authorities. officials from japan's second large largest shipbuilder say they will postpone their merger until january 1st. the shipbuilders are required. chinese officials have not completed the paper work. they are reporte

it comes after the leader of japan's liberal democratic party called for aggressive easing steps.e yen continue its plunge and how should you trade it? let's bring in boris from bk asset management. it has been all about the yen this week. give me your trade. >> it's been the breakout king of the week. but i think like the past it is going to break the hearts of longs again for two reasons. one, i think the whole fiscal cliff story is pretty much a story of going down austerity politics. that's been a disaster policy path for everywhere else it's been tried so i do think it is going to weigh on aggregate demand. if that's the case the fed is going to overweight qe, which means it will offset anything the japanese do. to me the dollar/yen is going to be a sell in a near term. i want to be a seller here at 80.50. if it breaks 80.50 with a stop at 81.50. if it runs away, then i'm not hurt. but if it turns around it is going to come back and take out all those stops for those who were long hoping to take it again. >>> watch "money in motion" tonight every friday night on cnbc at 5:30.

they have driven up support for the liberal democrats. the party's approval rating is about double the ruling democrats and the ldp can capture the most seats if not win an outright majority. you know, japanese voters know what they will get after what some people call an experiment with the dpj. and some are also concerned a new political force, the so-called third poll. the former governor of tokyo have founded new parties to try to alter the dynamic of national politics. many voters remember the ldp for wasting taxpayer money and believe the party was controlled by bureaucrats and business interests and saw it as older. as i said, voters have lost confidence in the democrats. so some people may want to take their chances with another option. >> nhk world's masayo nakajima. >>> japanese business leaders commented on prime minister yoshihiko noda's decision to dissolve the lower house. the chairman of japan business federation told reporters that noda made a tough decision aimed at resolving various problems to stop the political confusion. he also

let the democratic party be the party of government growing revenues. this country doesn't need two liberalr democratic parties. yes, we need to show our policies are appealing and work for the middle class, but we don't need to abandon our principles. this country doesn't need two democratic parties. >> don't be fooled. when a republican says pro growth, what he really means is trickle-down. it's never worked. but that doesn't stop republicans from pulling out their old playbook. here's what influential gop congressman tom price said about it. >> we need to look at increasing revenue through pro-growth policies as well as -- >> tax hikes, right? >> tax revenue, which means broadening the base, lowering the rates, closing the loopholes, limiting the deducti deductions, limiting the credits and making certain that we identify the appropriate spending reductions so that we have, indeed, a balanced approach. >> a balanced approach. by lowering tax rates and cutting spending. how is that balanced? it's exactly the romney/ryan agenda that voters rejected on election night. but republicans still

stabilization a key point of contention next month elections, both the ruling democratic party of japan and its main rival the liberal democratic party investigating the need for the central bank it on did more. japanese household spending fell 1% from a year earlier showing consumers have yet to loosen their purse strings worried about the economic outlook at home and abroad. but on the bright side, the drop was less than the 0.9% an lis were looking for. there a lot of pressure now on the boj to beat deflation, but what does that mean for the asian population which is counting on their savings? here is what one market watcher had to say. >> there is a big issue here and the strange thing about it is that it will probably be those older, conservative especially rural voters who are going to put ldp into power this this month for a long time especially if we do get inflation kicking in. japanese savers and post office savers in particular are not going to be very happy at the prospect of earning what amounts to about 0% on their savings. and that could see big shifts in thinking among savers going forward. >> that's

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the democrats are the liberal party and the republicans are the conservative party. i think the democrats will want their pound of flesh. >> those things are long term and none of that will happen in the next few months and one thing is clear. obama can let the tax cuts expire. my guess is he'll start talking immediately, maybe next week about proposing, you know, sustaining the tax cuts for everybody except the top 2% and he can let the tax cuts expire and do the same thing and then republicans will try to essentially block a tax cut for '98% and 99% of the american people and the only choice is how he chooses to approach the debt limit and obama would be a fool if he lets them use it the same way. my bet is if the white house faces the clinton option and the debt limit's unconstitutional and we're lifting it, if you don't like it, see you in court. >> how long, do you think, we're in early november. how long do you think this era of compromise and common ground will last? >> i think that any deal isn't going to happen until the last hours of december. so, and it's g

the crown jewels of liberalism, which are social security, medicare, for cuts come in order to pursue this grand bargain with the republican party. will the liberal wing of the democraticarty do anything more to the less than just make into gestures as opposing it, but a good person soldiers as they always do or provide real opposition? >> let's go to john boehner who argued against any tax hikes as part of a deal to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. >> instead of raising tax rates on the american people and accepting the damage of what it will do to our economy, let's start to solve the problem. let's focus on tax reform that closes special-interest loopholes and lowers tax rates. instead of accepting arbitrary cuts that will endanger our national defense, let's get serious by shoring up the entitlement programs that are the primary drivers of our country's massive growing debt. >> house speaker john boehner. right now, there has been a lot of concern, especially among the progressives, but beyond that, insuring that people pay their fair share. but the trade-off, it is clear president obama has said, is cuts to what they call entitlement programs -- medicare, medica

democrat party left me behind. i voted for mitt romney last night. host: why you think the democratic party has left you behind? caller: there gone too liberal. they're not thinking about being fiscally responsible. until they get harry reid out of the senate, they're not going to be any better. one other point is dodd has lifted his hand of protection offered the -- guide has lifted his hand of protection offered the united states, and we will see it. people will be hurt jeremiah right's comments about god damn america is coming home to roost. host: bettis clifford in florida. greta brawner has been following results. >> the associated press has operated the electoral votes. the president obama has been leading in florida. mitt romney has won 216 electoral votes. let's go to the battleground states and recap out president obama was able to capture all but one of those states that got the most money, time and resources. beginning in nevada, ap exit polls show unions, hispanics and women brought president obama to victory in the state. in colorado, the economy topped the issues, with 77% saying it is their number one issue, but one in two blam

and let's also be clear, this country doesn't need two liberal or democratic parties.e have to show our polls are appealing and work for the middle class but we don't need to abandon our principles. we don't need two democratic parties. >> look at it, when the pen is holding up his pen and saying i'll sign extending tax cuts, lower taxes which is a republican mantra for 9 8% of americans and the republicans are saying not so fast, bill crystal was on this show last week and he said it wouldn't kill the republicans to raise taxes on millionaires a also bit. is he wrong? >> well, i think you look at the contrast between washington and what is happening in each of our state houses. the vast majority of us who were two governors two years ago inherited major budget deficits in our states. we balanced them raising taxes. in states like wisconsin we cut taxes the past two years and revenues have gone up. most americans, not just in politics, most look at what is happening in washington and think they are missing the boat. don't get me wrong, i think they need to balance the

getting anywhere and it is kicking the can down the road and this country doesn't need two liberal or democratic partieseed to show our policies are appealing but don't need to abandon our principles. the country doesn't need two democratic party. >> chris: governor walker, look at the optics, the president sa i'll sign it, lower taxes, the mantra for 98% of americans and the republicans say not so fast, bill kristol was on this show, last week, and he said, you know, it wouldn't kill the republicans to raise taxes on millionaires a little bit. is he wrong? >> well, i think you look at the contrast between washington and what is happening in our states. the vast majority of us new governors two years ago inherit major budget deficits and balanced them without raise taxes and states like wisconsin we cut taxes over the past two years, and, revenuese gone up. i think most americans, not just those in politics, most americans look at what is happening in washington and think, they are missing the boat. the economy is a much bigger issue, don't get me wrong, they need to balance the budget and need to take

there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strategy to victory but he was a charismatic african-american president with a billion dollars, no primary and media that felt morally conflicted about being critical. how easy is that to replicate? stevens saying he got elected because he had a lot of money, easy press and because he was black? >> i thought there were a lot of points in that op-ed in "the washington post," by the way, that were a little bit alternative universe, including mitt romney's capacities as a candidate, and i think some of the points that he was trying to make about why obama got elected. i think one thing he said that i thought was appropriately gracious is winning campaign's the good camp -- the one that ran a good campaign and that's what he's learned. one could guess, i think, that the stewart stevens op-ed will probably not come up during the lunch. these are the not guys who had a terrific history of love and affection

. >> it's a nice badge of honor that the new york times and liberal pundits and democratic party apparatchiksere kicking me around. it's a sign of how effective they know crossroads was in 2010 and what a vital role it played in keeping the race close this year. >> so he's getting slammed because he was effective two years ago. and only liberals are kicking him around. that's an interesting read on the situation. what else you got? >> looks to me like a large number of voters, particularly whites in the industrial midwest, working class white voters said, you know what, i can't vote for obama. but at the end i can't vote for him either. >> way to kick a man when he's down. surely you deserve some blame. no? >> i hate to say it. we need to copy what howard dean did and that is make our ground game in all 50 states. >> imagine that. a ground game in all states. novel idea. what about your role? >> we need to move the convention back to june or july so our nominee gets picked. then can begin raising money for the general election and doesn't get outspent. >> outspent? this coming from a man who

century in which we live the democratic party has received the support of the electorate only when the party with absolute clarity as been the champion of progressive and liberal policies and principles of government the party has failed consistently won through political trading incher cannery is fallen into the control of those interests personal and financial which think in terms of dollars instead of in terms of human values it is best not to straddle ideals roosevelt wrote the party must go wholly one way or wholly the other it cannot face in both directions at the same time and quote the democratic party went along with f.d.r. nominating wallace and kept moving in such a progressive direction that f.d.r. even proposed a second bill of rights although he died before he could see it through so president obama harry reid nancy pelosi is your party the party of jefferson roosevelt and kennedy or is it the party of joe lieberman erskine bowles and joe mansion is a progressive or blue dog is the american people are solidly behind progressive policies from education to health care to taxing corporations on the rich now president obama in the democratic party le

democrats to do the same thing when it comes to entitlement spending. they want cuts, serious cuts in medicare, medicaid. will the liberal base of the democratic party go along with the president if he puts that into the deal? >> probably not. and part of the reason is because the democrats are in such a much more commanding position. you're talking about medicare, medicaid, social security. these are programs that are popular and working. if you look at social security, cbl says this program is solvent until 2038. you have a hard time convincing ordinary people there's some big emergency there. the tax cuts for the wealthy are budget busters. you have a hard time getting ordinary people to understand why we should take a chainsaw to middle class programs that are working, that are popular. to get republicans to do something that right now they're going to have to do anyway once january 1 comes. >> what will the democrats do to bring in the republicans to convince the republicans they're really going to cut spending? >> i think the spending cuts are on the table now with regard to defense. which i think is appropriate. 75% of americans say defense s

where simon is and president obama is is where the liberal wing of the democratic party is.hen you have senators members of the united states senate, like jay rockefeller, say though will not accept any level of enlightment reform, takes the negotiations and puts them in jeopardy before they even begun. what simon laid out is four step process everyone wants to see move forward and we'll have another trillion dollar deficit according to cbo moving into next year and we can't afford anymore like that. if we take what obama would be willing to support which is increase in the age of, again recipients and other type of reforms like that, then we have a legitimate negotiation as we move into it. but when you have liberal members of the democratic party stepping forward and saying before the process begins they will not accept any type of entitlement reform, it makes it untenable process from the beginning. jon: is it no entitlement reform, simon, or is it perhaps entitlement reform when it comes to medicare? i haven't heard anybody talk about reforming social security on democra

democratic members voted for it. so there's also a bit of a mislabeling going on here. they did compromise on that debt limit agreement. the liberal caucus in the democratic party was not as willing to compromise. >> but it's -- >> you have to look at it issue by issue, not paint with too broad a brush. >> but it is interesting specifically on obama care, speaker boehner said today obama care is here to stay, it's the law of the land. members of the tea party went ballistic and now he's walked that back. >> i think that's right. part of i think the challenge for the tea party is they talk a lot about liberty, they don't talk as much about liberty and justice for all. there's a sense that they have a very narrow, almost negative view of what american patriotism is all about. and for those of us who consider ourselves to be deep patriots who want to see the full promise of america realized, who love the statue of liberty and therefore love immigration and immigrants and think we're a nation of immigrants, who believe in america the beautiful and therefore want to defend america's environment against polluters, we find that we can't quite figure out how to be in a