, libertarians. >> [applause] it is 9:45. the libertarian national convention will come back to order. first item on the agenda, the credentials committee reports. >> good morning. thank you mr. chairman. we have sent to the secretary a list of names of voting members of the convention and their alternates who have been registered up until 9:12 this morning. there are 911 delegates. .6 alternates a total of 931 votes. form equals 373 and majority is for 66, two thirds is 621, and 815.s i move the revised role of delegates submitted be the official role of voting members of this convention. all those in favor of that motion please say i. opposed say no. >> thank you. additionally, we have a -- thens to the lifts lists from states and the credentials committee has found these people eligible to vote. i move that chad carlton be added as a missouri delegate, emily church as a missouri alternate, ashley lewandowski as a kansas delegate and marcus lopez as a live data -- as a nevada delegate. been moved and seconded to add those n

jew libertarian, no-sex libertarian, mlk junior malcolm x libertarian, the revolutionary, honorable, ron paul libertarian. dale w. perry, no apologies anarchist libertarian, that gary johnson new mexico success libertarian, that austan petersen freedom ninja in .our face libertarian that no pain, no gain libertarian, get those petitions signed in the ring libertarian. sorryorry i'm not libertarian that can't stand the infringements and abuses here,arian that right right now, no excuses libertarian. i'm that libertarian. >> mr. mcafee? mr. mcafee: thank you, dr. feldman. so iod up here for 2 hours could speak authentically to you for 1 minute. i believe we are building a skyscraper from the top floor down. to do that, it must be supported by compromise. we are on a train filled with increasing compromise leading to a questionable win. my goal is to derail this train and lay a new set of tracks through the grassroots of this party, and build from the ground up. i would like to thank judge weiss, the creative talent of vice president candidate, and without him we would not be here. i wo

he's a natural but not political libertarian. i decided i am a libertarian.st does not cut it anymore. i would like to say something to my erstwhile republican friends and that former life of mine -- trumpet does not speak for you. trump does not hold the values that you hold. get out of that life and come out of the closet. the libertarian party is a welcome, oh and home where you can speak out for your principles with no shame and no embarrassment. for secretaryrun of state. i hope there's someone from west virginia running because we are going to make a difference in west virginia. we are going to make a difference in the united states of america this year and i am proud to be a libertarian candidate. [applause] >> thank you, mr. buckley. >> the next speaker, with the indulgence of the body is red smith. you you run for congress, ring so much attention to the cause of liberty. what he is doing is something all of you should consider doing and listen carefully to what he has to say about why he is joining and about his experiences. [applause] >> thank you,

is proving a tough sell for libertarians."a five fold increase, camera for -- camera crews have followed bill been hit with a scornful heckling by the radicals who represent one third of the party. libertarians hold no party primaries -- host: we are taking her phone calls this morning. are you considering a third arty candidate? we are taking her thoughts on social media and we are taking our calls. turning now to philadelphia, pennsylvania. john is calling on the line for all others. you are not considering a third-party candidate? caller: no. thank you for having me. good morning. the 21st president and backwards, there were multiple parties within one candidate. let's just say the candidate would be republican, democrat, party, all ofriot it wrapped into one candidate. after that we broke into the republican and democrat system. what we need to do is fix the system. as someone just said, donald trump has no experience. he is arrogant and all of that. but we have had people with no experience. president obama had very littl

perry: i represent the libertarian wing of the libertarian party. you as most of these men will recognize as the most libertarian presidential candidate seeking the libertarian party presidential nomination. i ask each and every one of you vote for me so i can walk off as the libertarian party presidential candidate. larry: governor johnson. mr. johnson: i would like to be your nominee. if you are looking for someone who will tell the truth regardless of the consequences, if you are looking for somebody who will acknowledge miss takes because the quickest way to fix mistakes is to acknowledge them as quickly as possible. if you want somebody who knows what it is to put one foot in front of the other and dogged pursuit of any goals set, in this case to raise the profile of the libertarian party nationwide, please, give me your vote. [applause] mr. peterson. mr. peterson: does the government work for us or do we work for the government? are the rights of men limited or are they more numerous than the stars? are we prepared to shoulder the responsibili

we coined the term the libertarian moment. it's now the libertarian momentum because what will happen ultimately is that these guys are not going to be the next president and vice president of the u.s. but these two parties are going to take stuff from the libertarian platform and then incorporating into their establishment. >> how does the buzz in orlando compare to the ron paul and rand paul moments in the past because i think when americans think of libertarians they think of that father/son duo. >> ron paul is still the most beloved politician among libertarian members according to polling but these are the activists. these are 1,000 people from across the countries who have gotten ballot access. so they've been working in the trenches for a super long time and what they're noticing is they've never seen so many people interested in what they're talking about right now. there's 250 media credentials here and there was maybe 20 last time. we're talking about this on cnn and we weren't last time. there's a feeling of interes

libertarian polltations have not had over the years. >> are libertarian, wouldn't they would have 3/4 of a loaf and perhaps win than no loaf at all? >> who knows? they're willing to starve themselves to death and we all need to lose a few pounds. what the hell. to me what's fascinating is with a johnson/weld ticket, the libertarian party the province of gold goin bugs and private sidewalk people and weird extreme stuff, they're in the mainstream of america and gary johnson was talking about this. it's like when you talk about we don't want to go overseas and bomb countries, we want to have abortion rights, we want to have drug regulation, all sorts of stuff, like the libertarian party right now in the current politic context is at the dead center of america where there's 2/3 of people who are libertarian. they're socially liberal and fiscally conservative. these guys can bring that to an national audience in a way that has never happened before in american politics. i started talking about i like the -- matt and i coined the term the libertarian moment. it's now the libertarian moment

perry: i represent the libertarian wing of the libertarian party.ou as most of these men will recognize as the most libertarian presidential candidate seeking the libertarian party presidential nomination. i ask each and every one of you vote for me so i can walk off as the libertarian party presidential candidate. larry: governor johnson. mr. johnson: i would like to be your nominee. if you are looking for someone who will tell the truth regardless of the consequences, if you are looking for somebody who will acknowledge miss takes because the quickest way to fix mistakes is to acknowledge them as quickly as possible. if you want somebody who knows what it is to put one foot in front of the other and dogged pursuit of any goals set, in this case to raise the profile of the libertarian party nationwide, please, give me your vote. [applause] mr. peterson. mr. peterson: does the government work for us or do we work for the government? are the rights of men limited or are they more numerous than the stars? are we prepared to shoulder the responsibility

that's libertarian. lighten up a little bit. >> the super pac's have radically changed the landscape. nicholas: one of the problems with the super pac as you don't know who it is. you don't have any control over it. there are couple of super pac's they were behind me in 2012 and , youact that they put out flush your brand, what are you thinking? five minutes later he comes back and says was that the super pac. >> you expect to get the support of the tea party? johnson: the tea party was formed and identified with it. it was really all about fiscal conservatism. i think the tea party has been co-opted by republicans. it is now a social conservative organization further to the right than the party itself. hopefully those tea party members that are still out there , here is a home. >> one survey says you are taking more support from hillary clinton from donald trump. johnson: i've been in three national polls. there are probably been 40 other polls without my name in them. the key for us is being in these p

libertarian and the green party.tarian party with two former two-term governors, happen to be republican but both sort of running as feel fast their party left them, they are social moderates, fiscal conservatives and bill weld is wealthy. why does that matter. at a minimum there are state ballots that the libertarians have to fight to get on. maybe bill weld help pay for that fight to get on. then suddenly you're in all 50 state ballots, there is this vacuum. they could become de facto none of the above and there does seem to be and our new poll that's coming out this weekend, rachel, our pollsters said there was unusually high neither factor in here, meaning we asked a two-way race, clinton or trump, we didn't give the option of picking neither, yet the highest number that our pollsters had seen in a presidential head-to-head picked neither. there is a vacuum out there. >> chuck, how do pollsters decide broadly speaking, but how do they decide whether or not to put somebody like gary johnson and bill weld as a poss

does it go to greens and libertarians and sort of split? not show up, does it go down and not up? >> i think actually a lot of the negativity of this race is designed to lower turnout. that's trump's strategy to be so negative about everything that he actually lowers democratic turnout. i think what's going into this race, it's a crazy year. so if it's not johnson and somebody else, i think that still could attract some republicans, even though you would think that some of these statements would disqualify them. >> we shouldn't forget, there is another place, the none of the above vote could go to the green party and that some of the sanders voters could drift there, just again to make a statement. that's a potential problem. >> we have a history with democrats, which is ralph nader, and a lot of people feel ralph nader turned the election -- republicans don't ask. >> if you look at trump as a noninterventionist on foreign policy. some of the rand paul supporters have drifted toward trump, because they see the main republican party as too h

that is libertarian. lighten up a little bit. >> we were discussing that the super pac's in the last few years change to the political landscape out there. a different kind of campaign, seeking your support from organizations and you did in 2012? >> mr. johnson: the problem is you do not have any control over it whatsoever. super pac's were behind me in two the stuff they put out, my brother calls me up and he says, what are you doing and what are you thinking? five minutes later he calls back and says, was that a super pac? i said yes, it is a super pac. >> get support from the tea party? i know a lot of people are tea party members who will not vote for donald trump. mr. johnson: i identified myself as a tea partier, about being fiscally conservative. i think the tea party has been co-opted by republicans. it is now a social conservative organization further to the right. based on what i witnessing, hopefully those tea party members who are still about smaller government, yes. there is a home. >> seekin

could this be a libertarian-party year.now there are blue mores, mega conservative rumors like the koch brothers who have been linked to libertarians. there are rumors they could come back if libertarians could put together a conservative ticket that might have some constructive role in national politic this year. so there are all these little reasons stacking up that may make it seem like maybe this year they could be for real. maybe 2016 is the libertarian moment for pretal politics? on the other hand it's the libertarian party and even though they always make a case that they ought to matter, they never matter. they really never matter. well, now we know who the libertarian party is likely to pick as their ticket this year. it's likely to be gary johnson again. he was also their candidate in 2012 when he pulled the big 1% of the vote and we know as of yesterday that bill weld, former governor after massachusetts would likely be gary jon's running mate thachlt was the big surprise announcement from the libertarians yester

tony dokoupil is in orlando at the libertarian party convention. say they are more revved up than in conventions past given the climate of this election season? >> reporter: i would say that, let's talk big picture for a minute. every four years somebody brings up libertarian party and it is a bit of a joke. they only had 11,000 members. they never had a significant impact. they are voting here. this is what is going on. 2:30 is the deadline. gary johnson is the front runner. if he gets 10% of the vote he will participate in a key debate tonight. this year could be different. the libertarian party is on 32 ballots already nationwide on pace to be on 50 of them. there are historic unfavorables with hillary clinton and donald trump. gary johnson, former gop governor of new mexico is polling at 10% nationally. the big question for traditional parties is who is going to be hurt more by a rising libertarian party? i caught up with governor johnson yesterday to ask him that question and he brought up donald trump and republicans in particular. take a lis

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bill weld running on the libertarian ticket with gary johnson. this is like if you've been playing adult pick up soccer after work and it is fine and it keeps you in shape but you just found out that david beckham is joining your team. david beckham is retired and has a modelling career. it is like he is a full time dad but shae still david freaking beckham. it makes you feel differently about your team and about your chances in pick up soccer playing against other teams. there was a brief flurry of poorly sourced excitement at a conservative website called the daily caller when they suggested the koch brothers were planning to support gary johnson and bill weld until an effort. they have denied they have made any such commitment but if there that were to come to pass which is not inconceinconceivable. then this third party prospect which is somewhere between a joke and a fantasy for years now, this year, maybe this is a year it might be a real thing. in case you were feeling like this year would be boring. to be taken care of. home, car, life in

he has again secured the libertarian party candidacy. and that nomination for president at 55.8% of the vote. next up, will be the somewhat controversial vote for his particular choice as his running mate. that is for william weld, the popular governor of massachusetts who has been out of politics for acadebout a dec and a half. he was not well received in his speech to the libertarian group there, but we will see what happens with that vote and keep you apprised of that. >>> let's get now to the other political headlines. reaction from senator diane feinstein essentially calling on her colleague senator bernie sanders to drop out of the race. >> senator sanders has the right to run, no question. he ought to be able to read the signposts as well as anybody else. and if he did that, he would know that it's all but over. >> on meet the press this morning bernie sanders warned hillary clinton that she will lose the election unless she picks this type of running mate. >> i would hope, if i am not the nominee, that the vice presidential candi

they can vote libertarian. gary johnson will join us later. robert and philip reported in the washington post this weekend about the never-trump movement saying those involved can see that an independent campaign at this late stage is probably futile and think they only have a couple of weeks to launch a credible bids and they're repulsed by the prospect of trump as commander and chief and desperate to take action. this week paul ryan said party unity isn't really closer than last week. >> we're beginning the process of discussing what unity looks like in the republican party. and this taks some time. this isn't done with a couple of meetings. our teams are meeting next week to go over the principals that we universally republicans. let's not pretend that everyone is unified and on the same page. >> and then paul ryan was asked the easiest question a politician could ever be asked about the presidential nominee of his party. as long as that nominee is not donald trump. the question is do you believe that donald trump is someone that your kids

this is not just unique to the libertarian party.ions of americans right have no idea what libertarian is. going forward this is an opportunity to exponentially increase the party. you're not to hear negative word for me. i certainly have words regarding their policies. it is the culmination of a lot of hard work. let her work started from 2012. regardless asked me of what happens when i continue to try and grow the party. i tried to do that. it wasn't me that brought this about. is the work of a thousand people working really hard to grow this party. and here it is. i do get another crack at this. we didn't arrive here by mistake. people really have an appetite for something different. the best of what is to be a republican. the best of what is to be a democrat. michigan booted us off the ballot in 2012. as a sore loser law. johnson substituted gary e johnson austin texas to be on the ballot which i thought was a stroke of genius. and they ended up taking us both off the ballot. we went to court mason too late.

with regard to the libertarian ticket, libertarians vote for libertarians and a lot of times the protestor libertarians. i mentioned, there are millions of new voters now entering the political process to support mr. trump. he's going to compete the whole way through. this is not something that mr. trump will take lightly and he will fight back and fight back hard. because he is the only one that wants to get out there and push a pro-america agenda, pro-economy, and pro-jobs for the country in the best interests of the people in this country, not those abroad, not those special interests. and not the political class. >> as you know, there have been questions about trump university. and people, journalists as well as people who went there, think that it has some dubious claims that have been made. so "the washington post" has been looking to get its hands on documents that could see if trump university overpromised its students. so now the judge connected to the case, mr. trump has been going after that judge in a sort of interesting way. let me play for you what he said this weekend. >>

tell us more about what libertarian values are to you?> libertarian values are and what really got me in the party in the first place is we are the only party truly for a smaller government, free speech, personal liberty and privacy. >> smaller government. one of the delegates i spoke with told me that libertarianism is basically personal responsibility, a recognition of other people's rights to do what they please and tolerance. >> yes. >> acceptance. is that a good compilation? >> yes. we say you can do whatever you want, but you need to take responsibility for your consequences. i tell my kids there's good and bad consequences of everything you do in life. people seem to forget if you do something, there is going to be a consequence. it may be good or bad but you need to accept it because you put yourself in that situation. >> the libertarian party right now the leading candidate gary johnson is polling at 10%. that is enough of the american electorate to completely eclipse a margin of victory in past presidential elections. are you co

." >>> the libertarian party convention underway now at this hour. the three-day event culminates and libertarians hoping all the turmoil among the major parties will push the voters their way. gary johnson, former two-term governor of new mexico ran as a libertarian in 2012. johnson is polling around 10% nationally despite being usually left off of presidential surveys. earlier today in an interview with cnn's micro-smerconish johns aon argued in order to compete he needs to be included in debates. >> only chance of winning, to be in the presidential debates. to be in the presidential debates you've got to be in the polls. look, just put us in the polls. i think that by putting us in the polls they'll be attention drawn to what it is that we're saying, and -- you know what? if that happens, anything's possible. >> are there states where gary johnson and bill weld, should you both win nominations on sunday, can actually capture electoral college states? >> i think anything is possible, michael, given the -- given just how divisive the two major parti

of the libertarian convention. i think there will be a clear third choice. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. >>> the libertarian party is hoping the turmoil around the major parties pushes voters its way, the party holding its nominating convention this weekend in orlando, florida, founded in 1931 as an alternative to the republican and democratic parties. they believe in government's role in economics and social issues and on economics, libertarians believe in slashing government benefits, reducing regulations and reforming or even eliminating the federal reserve. on social issues, they generally lean more liberal, favoring same-sex marriage and the decriminalization of most if not all drugs. but the libertarian party is also very pro gun rights and on foreign policy libertarians are non-interventionists. they prefer a military devo

guest: yes, but a libertarian ,epublican governor, today libertarian presidential candidate. i want to draw a distinction. you cannot bear your past. ry your past. i want to see you and bill weld support bernie sanders. there's a lot of people out here that want bernie sanders to win the nomination. ,f he is not in the nomination i'm sure you would take home the if you had all the ideas that bernie sanders has and three quarters of america have. claudia, here is a pitch to make to everybody out there. sidewith.com. get online, take that political quiz. really simple. 60 questions, you don't have to register. at the end of that quiz, you get paired up with a presidential candidate most in line with your views. don't we all away to ourselves to find out who we align with we it toith -- o ourselves to find out who we align with and side with? 70% with bernie sanders. there is crony capitalism. the government really isn't fair when it comes to this level playing field. marijuana. 73% of what bernie says, i agree with. in the road when it comes to economics. if we absolutely had a

and if you're a libertarian, 202-748-8003. coming out of the convention, governor johnson, there were several questions about what separates you specifically as a libertarian rather than another form of a republican. in fact, there's a big philosophical discussion about the purity within the libertarian party of holding to its ideals. how would you define yourself? what separates you then, say, from a republican, and do you think that purity idea is going to be a challenge for you in gaining support?t? >> guest: well, first of all, i think that there are tens of millions of americans who have no idea what it is to be a libertarian and yet are libertarians, they just don't know it. so speaking with a broad brush stroke, libertarian; fiscally conservative, socially liberal. i think most people fall in that category. i have issues when it comes to democrats, when it comes to spending and government being the solution to everything. i would argue that thehe government -- although well intentioned -- really doesn't provide solution

does it go to greens and libertarians and sort of split?, does it go down and not up? is. >> i think actually a lot of the negative activity of this race is designed to lower turnout. that's trump's strategy to be so negative that it lowers democratic turnout. i think what's going into this race, it's a crazy year. so if it's not johnson and somebody else, i think that still could attract some republicans, even though you would think that some of these statements would disqualify them. >> we shouldn't forget, there is another place, the none of the above vote could go to the green party and that some of the sanders voters could drift there. >> we have a history with democrats, which is ralph nader, and a lot of people feel ralph nader -- republicans don't ask. >> if you look at trump as a noninterventionist on foreign policy. some of the rand paul supporters have drifted toward trump, because they see the main republican party -- >> actually, kellyanne, trump would be more comfortable in the libertarian party. >> the libertarians are comfor

nominee this time. >> the libertarian party is growing. so is, i'd like to fill up your current weekly meeting that is occurring in the tree house to an auditorium. here it is. we're in a threshold here, a real threshold to grow this party and to make it better. >> so that's gary johnson's argument. here's a compilation of some of his opponents on that debate stage. >> i believe in a world where gay married couples can protect their marijuana fields with fully automatic machine guns, baby. >> as a physician, i think it's a very good idea to have two separate bathrooms. one for people who wash their hands, and one for people who don't. >> everything should be as legal as tomatoes. i think people are smart enough to know, not to give heroin to a child unless under the direct supervision of a doctor. >> robert, there actually is a real chance what kellyanne was bringing up where gary johnson could get party and then libertarians are not a factor. >> he could. when i was on capitol hill this week, they're inching close to the idea of maybe sup

bill weld was libertarian republican. bill weld was denied the nomination by jesse helms to be ambassador to mexico because jesse described him as pro-gay, pro-choice, and pro-medical marijuana at a time when nobody else was talking about this. [applause] governor johnson: it's your choice. we can go out there and we can make -- you kind of sort of made a choice here already, and that is we do have the opportunity to reach millions and millions of americans. talk about fund-raising. the total amount of funds since i of been in politics, that i have raised is probably about $8 million. if you make that comparison with bill weld, the number is closer to a quarter of a billion dollars. it's a reality. it is a reality, and i'm asking you all to recognize that reality, and i'm asking you to recognize that you did nominate me for president. and i'm hopefully going to get elected president of the united states. the first -- [applause] governor johnson: the first consideration that people are going to look at when they look at a

who will libertarians vote for? there will be a libertarian candidate. candidates. gary johnson, austin peterson, and software entrepreneur john mcafee. we can decide who we think would be the best president. all of them would be better than the current frontrunners hillary and donald. but third party candidate haven't done well in american presidential elects. as a thought experiment, let me ask you, if you have to vote for one of the current democratic or republican candidates, who would you vote for? wouldn't vote? you have to vote. i'll list the candidates in the order of how they are doing on election betting odd. that's the best prediction market that gives the best forecasts of what happened in elections. the frontrunner right now is hillary. will anyone here vote for hillary? yes, we have got one. anybody vote for trump. bernie sanders? marco rubio? okay, ted cruz? we got some cruz and rubio. how many say no one because they are all awful? they are all status. the good news is that we are a government of checks and balances. so there is a limit t

but here's the distinction that libertarians make. they make the distinction between government not being able to discriminate, but businesses being able to discriminate, the right of personal choice. >> right. and i assume that you believe businesses shouldn't be able to do this, whether it's on the health care law or on, obviously having to do with restaurants and things like that? >> well, i just like to apply it to both sides of the aisle. look, you got the customer, let's not discriminate against the customer. you know, is the business owner being done harm? well, it works both ways. look, we shouldn't be condoning discrimination in any way whatsoever. and it would require new legislation that would allow discrimination that currently is not allowed for under law. so i don't want to have any part of it. >> governor weld, you or one of our successors in massachusetts, governor charlie baker announced today that if a bill hits his desk that is designed to protect transgender, protect the rights of transgender, that he would sign th

gary johnson thinks he is the perfect libertarian candidate. here tonight, he was jeered. gary johnson making it very clear. he will still run if he is not the vice-presidential nominee. it is going to be hobbled if he doesn't. this is a real opportunity. that's how it is perceived right here. you want your best ticket out there. gary johnson has seen things. if bill weld is not on that ticket, they don't have it anymore. >> little do we know the outcome. is that the end of the weekend? >> that's exactly right. we'll know by the end of tomorrow. there is a big presidential debate tonight with gary johnson, john mcafee, austin peterson, the other kind of primary candidate that's here. that will happen tonight at 8:00 p.m. by the end of the weekend, we will have our answer, whether or not bill weld is able to persuade that crucial group of delegates right now who at this point, some of whom are preferring to him as republican-like, a bit of a ter rog tor derogatory term at a libertarian convention. if they can persuade that the best ticket they h

john: you are a long time libertarian.ou have now watch this. >> when you see him getting all of the sons of thousands of young people you know that something like this is being shared. >> this facebook post that says it is in name, that is what we need. maybe the libertarians need our own reality show. john: someone did supply, at no time has the majority been interested in raw knowledge. this we will do more than any lecture. >> they say that it does not take a majority to succeed. i think it was only 3 percent of the people the support of the revolution. perhaps we can have our own. john: almost all the media pushes big government anticapitalist message. here is a clip from the highest grossing movie of all time. avatars billing is a mining company. >> this little gray rock cells from million a kilo. john: to get it they destroy the indigenous peoples land. you guys consumed this. does it not make you mad? >> pop culture gets people going. take the story of game of thrones and to contrast that to limited government. one

that's what the libertarian party could be preparing for this year.ird party alternative to donald trump or hillary clinton. it was 44 years ago that the first libertarian ticket took part in the presidential election. that was also the last time anyone other than a democrat or a republican won any of the electoral votes. our victor blackwell joining us now from orlando, florida, where the libertarian party is holding their convention this weekend. what are they saying about their chances in this rather unusual political season? >> reporter: wolf, they say they're getting the support and the money. this is the first interview of governors johnson and well together and wide ranging conversation about policy and strategy, from why bill weld is not a member of the never trump movement to whether or not gary johnson would use cannabis in the white house. we started with hillary clinton and that scathing frort treport the i 2k3g at the state departm >> thank you for being on cnn. >> thank you. >> pleasure. >> we'll talk about your candidacy and potential o

this is he especially open for libertarians. they believe in if free market and they, work with somebody who believes in civil liberties and less military terryism overseas.ll with but you give up what you believe in, then you the two groups. kennedy: we don't have a notion of coalitions in this country. but about gary johnson. do you think he's serious enough a candidate to take on hillary clinton and donald trump? >> well, you know, this always the problem is getting the right candidate to represent these viewpoints. e under this system, i think it's practically impossible and just leads to frustration and anger. and you have two candidates that's -- most people in america would agree they are entertained to some degree.re people think i'll get stuff for free and we love trump for such and such reason.ld maybe we should have adults talking about some of these issues. but i'm not expecting to it happen this year. that's why i'm much more comfortable dealing in the educational sphere, trying to change people's minds and putting

libertarians and why would democrats?e we believe in civil liberties, economic freedom, foreign policy, religious liberty, we believe you own your life, own your body do with it as you please provided you harm no one else. >> thank you, austin. >> thanks for your time. >> a voter on the republican side who came over to libertarian party told me earlier this weekend that there were about 16 candidates at the beginning of all of this. 12 of them he wouldn't let baby sit his children. we're now down to about four. i don't know if they're babysitter qualified or not but they are running for president. we'll find out tomorrow which one represents the party. >> some colorful conversations you're having with those candidates. tony, thank you. we appreciate it. >>> still to come, donald trump and his relationship with veterans. new questions this afternoon over his claims of giving a million dollars to veterans causes. why the presumptive gop nominee is under fire next. don't let dust and allergies get between you and life's beau

guest: yes, but a libertarian ,epublican governor, today libertarian presidential candidate.ant to draw a distinction. you cannot bear your past. ry your past. i want to see you and bill weld support bernie sanders. there's a lot of people out here that want bernie sanders to win the nomination. ,f he is not in the nomination i'm sure you would take home the if you had all the ideas that bernie sanders has and three quarters of america have. claudia, here is a pitch to make to everybody out there. sidewith.com. get online, take that political quiz. really simple. 60 questions, you don't have to register. at the end of that quiz, you get paired up with a presidential candidate most in line with your views. don't we all away to ourselves to find out who we align with we it toith -- o ourselves to find out who we align with and side with? 70% with bernie sanders. there is crony capitalism. the government really isn't fair when it comes to this level playing field. marijuana. 73% of what bernie says, i agree with. in the road when it comes to economics. if we absolutely had a fai

a very libertarian position. through other positions he has flummoxed some potential supporters and almost enraged some that won't get behind him. i think this is the issue he's having now. finding a way to connect with the libertarian party, with the libertarian delegates here. it's something he has to work on. the big problem now, he does not have a lot of time. it all ends this weekend. they decide this weekend and bill weld needs to make up a lot of ground fast. >> excellent reporting, phil, thank you. >>> donald trump's latest campaign stop in california once again rocked by violent protests. trump is praising police for arresting at least 35 people, tweeting this morning, san diego p.d., fantastic job on handling the thugs who try to disrupt our very peaceful and well-attended rally. greatly appreciated. this all began as pro-trump and anti-trump demonstrators came face to face after the raly when thousands of trump supporters flooded into the streets. joining me now, senior political analyst ron brownstein

that is libertarian. [laughter] libertarian.ighten up a little bit. >> we were discussing that the super pac's in the last few years change to the political landscape out there. do you expect to run a different kind of campaign, seeking your support from organizations and you did in 2012? governor johnson: one of the >> aegon have any control over it whatsoever. the stuff that they put out, my brother called me up and said you have -- what are you thinking? i don't know. five minutes later, he calls back, he says "was that a super pac?" >> do you expect to get support from the tea party, because i know a lot of people say they would not vote for tom. mr. sarwark: when the tea party was initially formed, identified myself but the tea party, as a eight t partier, it was all about dollars and cents. co-opted.n it is further to the right. based on what i am witnessing from the tea party, hopefully, if they are -- hopefully, they are still about small government. >> [indiscernible] you're taking more support from hillary clinton than