the libertarians left the vietnam. and so we've always ever since then and all throughout the war on terrorism and the nuclear brinksmanship of the eighties and the rest of libertarians have always been out front on peace. well, scott horton, we've invited to appear on book tv to talk about your book hotter than sun, and if i may quote, from the introduction, the danger of nuclear war has never left us. that's right. i think i try to stay in there through malevolence or misunderstand or miscalculation. the danger remains. and especially since end of the cold war and the brinksmanship, the days of the contest with the soviet union, most people more or less think of nukes as no longer existing. they think about it at all. they think, oh, well, maybe we have a few. of course, the they're no longer targeted at the and it's all kind of a failsafe for someday that never comes and we don't really have to think about it. do nothing. nuclear missiles. mr. burns called them on the simpsons. right. they just sit around and thank

-- libertarian. many of ron swanson is in you? >> guest: i mean, i think the base values are strongly similar. we both don't suffer fools gladly. g we, we are taciturn. we'd rather show you our, what we mean with our actions or make you something with our hands rather than write you an essay. and, you know, he -- ron is actually, he's an ideal libertarian. i think people who attempt libertarianism in this country soon learn that on paper it sounds great, but if we tried to engage that system, it would end in anarchy quickly, is my opinion. and i think ron was an ideal libertarian. and so he respected everyone the same. he wasas a wonderful feminist. he was a wonderful ally to everybody that was decent. and if you were indecent, especially if you crossed one of his friends, then he was quick to take up arms against you. >> host: both you and your wife got to play characters on programs that had multiple political viewpoints. that's kind of a rarity in media. >> guest: it ises. and it's something i'm g

ron is an ideal libertarian. people who attempt libertarianism in this country soon learned that on paper, it sounds great. if we try to engage that system, it would end in anarchy pretty quickly. ron was an ideal libertarian. he respected everyone the same. he was a wonderful feminist. he was a wonderful ally to everyone who is decent and if you are indecent especially if you crossed one of his friends, that he was quick to take up arms against you. >> you and your wife got to play characters or on programs that have multiple political viewpoints. that's a rarity in media. >> it is and it's something i'm grateful for. especially as we sit here in a partisan time, it's very medicinal to be able to laugh together and say you like peanut butter, i like chocolate. i've heard they can be combined to some great effect if we can get close enough to shake hands. >> where the deer and antelope play, obviously a line from home on the range. why did you pick that? >> when i was in college, one of my roommates was a musical

libertarians, they got the joke. i ended up flying the next day back to cast my ballot, and wouldn't you know neither gary johnson or bill weld even showed up to the last campaign stop. so if that tells you a little something about the libertarian party, or at least with the libertarian party used to be like before the change that's happened over this past year, it sort of emblematic of it. >> host: have you always been the libertarian? >> guest: no. i think i, i caught the bug, i think is probably around 25, 26, 27. i think i've always had an antiauthoritarian streak in me. i've been against bullying, especially like mob rule, sort of gang up, the idea that if five of my buddies get together we get to dictate what you can do with your body or how you can live your life. so it was like a slow process to become a libertarian. >> host: you supported obama, president obama? >> guest: i did. i did. i voted in the first election i voted for president obama. actually worked the polls for obama. i was living in the upper ea

so if that tells you a little something, the libertarian party, or at least what the libertarian party used to be like before the the change that that that's happened over this past year, it's sort of emblematic of it. have you always been a libertarian? no, i think i, i, i caught the bug. i think i was probably around 25, 26, 27. i thought it was a i think i've always had an anti authoritarian streak in me. i've always had a had been against bullying especially like mob rule, you know, sort of ganging up the idea that, you know, if five of my buddies get together, we get to dictate what you can do with your body or how you can live your life. so it was like a slow process, you know, to become to become a libertarian. you supported, obama, president obama. i did. i did. i voted in the first election. i voted for president obama actually worked the polls the for obama was in i was living on the upper east side in new york and i was one of the poll workers. that's right. it's not i didn't change any votes did one handedly of new. so yeah, i've had a i've had like, you know, a journey thr

your libertarian. >> guest: traditionally yet, but anti-imperialism has always been at the core of libertarianism from the very beginning. it was one of the main breaks inside the right after world war ii as libertines were sent to an exiled from review for refusing to support the cold war, then later there's a big split famously between the young americans for freedom who broke up over the vietnam war. the libertarians left over vietnam so we always ever since then and all throughout the war on terrorism and the nuclear rinks been ship of the '80s and the rest come libertines have always been out front on peace. >> host: we have invited you to appear on booktv to talk about your book "hotter than the sun." if i may quote from introduction, the danger of nuclear war has never left us. >> guest: that's right. i think i tried to say in their through malevolence or misunderstanding or miscalculation, the danger remains, and essentially since the end of the cold war and the ranks midship of the days of the contest with the soviet union, most people more or less think of nukes is no longer existing or

to become a libertarian. when you supported president obama. >> guest: i did a vote in the first election i voted for obama. i actually worked the polls for obama in the upper east side of new york. i was one of the poll workers. i did not change any votes. so i have hadth a journey throuh politics and also more important with your philosophy. >> cancel culture today? how has that affected you in your profession? >> atso i think the article thai brought up in the wall street journal how i became a follower right radical i think it was looming over my head there. man, people are not even willing to do the work and see what you have actually produced or even see what you've actually said before passing judgment on you. i've always been of the mind of somebody does not work with me it's i wanted to be because of something i actually have said or done. so, cancel culture it is out there. it's definitely harder for a people who are lower on the totem pole than there are for people like dave chapelle or people of t

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he's an ideal libertarian. people soon learn that on paper it sounds great but it would end and anarchy very quickly. ron was an idea libertarian and respected everyonect the same. he was a wonderful feminist and a wonderful ally both you and your wife got to play characters on programs with multiple political viewpoints. that's kind of a rarity in the media. >> it is and because we sit here in a very partisan time, i think it is very medicinal to laugh together and say you like planet better, i like chocolate. i've heard they can be combined to some affect. home on the range, why did you pick that? >> when i was in college one of my roommates was a beautiful performer learning on the guitar. a lot of these have more verses than the ones people are familiar with and there's one i heard him singing the red man was pressed from his home in the westan it's unlikely he will evr return to the banks of red river where seldom if ever is flickering campfires burn. and i said say again, that was home on the range. it wa

and you know, ron is actually, he's an ideal libertarian. i think people attempt libertarianism in this country soon learn that on paper it sounds great but if we tried to engage that system it would end in anarchy quickly, is my opinion. and i think ron was an ideal libertarian, , and so he respecd everyone the same. he was a wonderful feminist. he was a wonderful ally to everybody that was decent, and if you were indecent, especially if you crossed one of his friends, then he was quick to take up arms against you. >> host: both you and your wife got to play characters with, or on programs that had multiple political viewpoints. that's kind of a rarity in media. >> guest: it is, and something i'm grateful for because, especially as we sit here in a very partisan time, i think it's very medicinal to be able to laugh together and say, you know, you like peanut butter, i like chocolate. i've heard they can be combined to some great effect, if we can just get close enough to shake hands. >> host: "where the deer and the antelope play" obviously

>> , director of the libertarian. >> what does that mean?great group of guys and girls that write articles and do podcasts and publish books. >> was the general philosophy of yourll podcast? >> while we are individualists libertarians antigovernment types. with a special emphasis on foreign policy. but we cover a broad range. >> you also posted anti- or ratings what is that? >> it's i host in los angeles. i've been on the air there since about 2011. happen to be i'm told the most powerful fm transmitter west of the mississippi river. a cover all of southern california every sunday morning. >> you talk about antiwar issues? >> yes is it interviewly show. that tensing in the liberal side of the political spectrum when you think of antiwar activists. >> butraditionally yes. anti- imperialism has been at the core of libertarianism from the very beginning. it was one of the main breaks inside the right after world war ii. later there is a big split who broke up over the vietnam war and the libertarians overwa vietnam. we have always ever since th

and why are you a libertarian. well, libertarians are socially liberal and, economically conservative. so we're not right wing. we're not left wing, which i like. i actually don't really like labels. freedom fest is called the world's largest gathering of free minds. and so we like think of people here are free mind open. we have a lot of debates both sides the issues they're formal debates, civil debates. so it's not like cnn and fox news or the yelling each other. of course, they don't do debates anymore. notice the only guests they have on are saying, yes, tucker i agree with you. you know, come on, let's have a genuine debate like they used to do. the only time you see debates anymore is in congress when somebody has to show up and and you can get some fighting going on. in fact, we have senator rand paul here today going to show clips from his debates, dr. fauci and other members of the biden administration and then his inside scoop of he really thought about these guys who come him and so forth. so there's a

and those intentions around servicesna around libertarians and journalists. but it gives us a talk about that so we are doing this morning. due to a conversation between and former paul ryan house speaker is a practitioner in the thinker of politics on the modern right. matt is senior fellow here at aei. and thehe prominent journalist and analyst e and author founding editor of the washington free beacon in the opinion editor of the weekly standard and contributing editor of national review and a columnist and his third book one way or another one of them has thaten with the modern right. >> i am forced to show paying congress with that first district of wisconsin to serve as chairman of the budget committee and ways an' means committee. and that nonresidents fellow at aei. and then teaching at notre dame and and no formal remarks or opening statements and then which i will moderate questions from all of you who are watching live online. so byt e-mail or on twitter. so with that we can jump in. have being a sense of the book is telling us why you voted the wa

the libertarians, the born quote that everybody knows, libertarians are not interventionist but will grow the state and reduce individual freedom so it's in the course of the debate with libertarians that meyer says look, i'm going to describe to you what american conservatism is and what american conservatism is tracing back to the american founding is a synthesis of individual liberty and traditional values, what we call traditional values but moral order and because the american founding took place before the great ruptures of the 19th century before the french revolution in 1789, americans had been able to synthesize these two principles, freedom and virtue, liberty and horror so you write this essay about the tree of liberty and his best friend roosevelt junior who is bill buckley's brother-in-law and another senior editor at national review and who's moving towards a very about traditional catholicism at this time. rthe was became more and more devout as he went on, he read frank's essay and said this is ridiculous. freedom is not the end of politics. what you're trying to do f

voters in long form, get to their governing philosophy and see if they can appeal to the libertarianers who came out for me, i will give them that opportunity, if they take it up good for them, if they ignore it, it is at their peril. kennedy: we will host your forum on the very show, chase, if you make that happen. >> i would love it. >> i love it too. >> keep fighting the good fight, thank you for your time. and you know, a great principled race from you and many other libertarian candidates who knew they were not facing victory but screw it. thank you,. >> thank you. kennedy: meanwhile out in las vegas, moderates are locked in a tight race with progressives over crime and homelessness, l.a. mayoral contest between establishment democrat karen bass who was horrible and outsider rick caruso who has built nice outdoor malls, still up in the air. incumbent l.a. county sheriff alex villanueva trailing his challenger luna. california mailed ballots to all active voters, results may be years away, record violence crime not enough to out of governor kathy hochul in new york. will los ange

dividing line between traditionalists and libertarians. between freedom and tradition and that dividing line came to >> between freedom and traditions and that is the dividing line seem too define debates of theer conservative in overtime, the attempts to overcome those divisions, became known as fusionism in the sort of defining project of the buckley right, at leastbe in the 1960's, beginning man and tell us about what fusionism wasn't what it was meant to be and what it was not, and really make sense as a way to try to solve the problems the buckley was confronting with his uncapped. >> i think one of the underappreciated through the market price was a man named frank meyer and asked communist, who converted to the right is meeting of the root system. he became a contributor to any of the right-leaning journals like freeman and like the american history that he became associated with national use that eventually this editor national review. and frank meyer, he had been trained in communist dialectic and polemic and so he thought very do

so meyer has libertarians terrain to him, love and appreciate higher actually disputes other libertarians on the right over the nature of the american defense establishment, whether a standing army weapons programs, and what conservatives desired, a policy of rollback of communism, the randolph bourne quote everyone knows, libertarians are noninterventionist, war will grow the state and reduce individual freedom. in the course of the debate with libertarians myers says i will describe what american conservatism is and what american conservatism is tracing back to the american founding is a synthesis of individual liberty and traditional values, moral order and because the american founding took place before the great ruptures of the nineteenth century, before the french revolution in 1789, americans are able to synthesize freedom and virtue, liberty and order. this essay called the twisted tree of liberty, a great essay and brent bozell junior who is bill buckley's brother-in-law and another senior editor at "national review" moving toward a very devout traditional policy at this time, an

think libertarian could not be part of his movement because he was a narco capitalist. he would privatize everything and get rid of the state totally. national security played a big part in this. but please conservativism was one of engaged nationalism. america should be strong, america should be powerful and defend itself it also had to be engaged rollback the soviet union. in order to advance and forward deployment of our troops. alliances like a nato intervention like vietnam. all of which the earlier right would have been extremely skeptical if not outright opposed to. this was the version of american conservative that bill buckley created. last part of his legacy was political. within the republican party traditional vehicle of americanu conservativism to turn it away from the moderate republicanism. conservativism. culminate in 1964 in barry goldwater's nomination. the republican ticket. ironically the goldwater campaign t was managed the more prominent of this institution blocks buckley out of the campaign. he was afraid goldwater would be associate with national

not only did the libertarian running for the senate in arizona drop out of the race but that libertarianndorsed blake masters. good to see you both. kari, let me start with you. i'm sure you're all upset that barack obama went out to campaign against you. >> oh, first it was liz cheney last week, and i just laughed that off. now i am living rent free in barack obama's mind, and eric holder today. but i was a little concerned today, i'm going to be honest, when i saw hillary clinton bad mouthing me. she looked angry and actually scared and just completely unrelated, i want you to know in case you are wondering, i am in perfect health, brakes on the car are in good shape and i am not suicidal. we're going to win this thing tuesday. >> sean: i think one of the things that endeared you to people of arizona and around the country, you have a great sense of humor and good come back for everything. blake masters, this is big news for you. look, in the polls i was seeing, 4, 5, 6% the libertarian was drawing. those are votes against mark kelly. he is a rubber stamp for all things chuck schumer a

the libertarian candidate got 80,000 votes. so are those people going to vote?they're going to vote, who are they going to vote for? ideologically, you would assume a good chunk of those voters, a majority or more, would be walker voters if they're libertarians. although they may have voted for the libertarian as a protest vote, we don't know. 80,000 voters are in play. the ones who did vote. now their candidate's not here. the other thing at play is going to be who does kemp decide that it is in his interests to fully get behind herschel walker now that he's been re-elected as governor? it will be interesting to see what governor kemp does. >> as my late grandmother would say, he's treated herschel walker with a long-handled spoon to this point. >> let's remember this. when herschel walker was asked in the primary was he voting for brian kemp or david perdue, he said, "i'm not voting for either." >> that's right. >> let me tell you, as somebody who was an incumbent governor, when you're running for election and somebody says they're not sure they're going to vo

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. >> why are you a libertarian?libertarians are socially liberal and economically conservative so we are not right or left wing which i like, i don't like labels. freedom best is the world's largest gathering of free minds so we like to think that we are open minded. we have debates on both sides of the issues, formal debate, civil debate so it's not like cnn or fox news with healing, they don't do debate and more. the only guess they have are yes, tucker, i agree with you. but to have genuine debates like they used to. the only time you see debate anymore is congress with somebody else showing up and you get fighting going on. we have senator rand paul here today, i'll show clips of his debates with doctor fauci and other members of the biden administration and get his inside scoop of what he really thought about these guys have come before him so it's a lot of fun, it's entertaining and educational. >>eeen coming out for several years talking to oths, how has it grown?us >> we started 15 years ago, 1000 people. th

. >> wire ua libertarian. >> libertarians are socially liberal and economically conservative.not right-wing, we are not left-wing which i like. freedom fast is the largest gathering of free minds. we like to think of people here, we have a lot of debate. both sides of the issue. formal debate, civil debate. they do not do debates anymore. have you noticed? yes, tucker, i agree with you. come on. let's haveed genuine debates lie they used to do. the only time you see debates anymore is when congress, somebody has to show up and you can get some fighting going on. in fact, we have senator rand paul here today. i show clips of his debates with other members of the biden administration and then get his inside scoop of what he really thought about these guys who come before him and so forth it is a lot of fun here. it is entertaining and it is educational. >> we have been coming out he for several years and around talking to authors. how has it grown over the years? >> well, we started off 15 years ago where we had 1000 people. this year we are at almost 2600. by the way, a lot of

he said he previously identified as a libertarian twice, said that libertarian theory is correct. a lot. he said the government should be as small as possible. and most importantly, he said we can count on him to get us in the direction of what i care about, which is the live and let live global peace movement and that he supports it. that was good, enough for me, especially after i explained it to him. neil: all right. marc victor, obviously, that did the trick and now tightest ticket in this race and you might have been the person who decided it. marc victor, former libertarian senate candidate. we'll not only focus what's going on in arizona, but the other ballot ground states and the president and former president, so many of them now on the stump, arguing for candidates and their party and their cause and they always say the country because if it went the opposite way they would say it is the end of the world. we're on it. is it? after this. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom.

>> if you drop the libertarian -- neil: wasn't the libertarian in another state?hink there's a libertarian -- i could be wrong -- neil: the people stomping on herschel walker's political grave are concern. >> yeah what's the real postmortem of now, a few hours afterwards, and it's simply this: that trumpism lost last night. that donald trump, and i say this as someone who personally likes the guy, okay? but i'm telling you -- neil: he doesn't seem to like you. >> you sure about that? neil: i don't know. [laughter] stir the pot. >> yes, i know. you bastard. [laughter] it just doesn't work. and it's not that the policies don't work, it's like the man is sort of reis viled by so many people -- reviled by so many people. and then if you attach yourself to him and, you know, he comes out -- look what he did yesterday with desantis, i know stuff about him. are we really going to go there? neil: seems very childish. >> that sort of stuff is not going to fly, and it's his candidates that really got, cost the republicans. so that's -- all the wall street firms are giving p

host: there was not a libertarian candidate until recently?uest: on monday, the libertarian dropped out and give support to blake masters. the libertarian was pulling at 2%-3%. that is the margin between kelly and masters. any kind of slight change like that i could make a difference in the outcome of the vote on tuesday. host: you talked about blake masters coming out strong recently. this comes after one of the main leaderships packs, the local action committee that spent a lot of money for senate candidates. the arm of the republican leadership on capitol hill had pulled back from this race back in september, is that correct? guest: yes, but more support has been coming in from or the other organizations to help boost him. he has had a big uptick in his fundraising which helps to increase his add by. as i mentioned, pairing up with carrie blake has also been beneficial for mr. masters. host: for senator mark kelly, how has he tried to explain this contest? guest: he frames it as, i am here for the average guy. i understand your problems. i

grassroots republicans fired up, libertarians fired up we are also attracting independents, right?erate voters and even some democrats look around in surprise, surprise, even democrats don't like wide open borders and violent crime, my goodness, we have the momentum and we will sprint for the finish line. >> you're sitting there in phoenix. we have an ad from your campaign, we have an ad for mark kelly's campaign as well, first will play just so the folks all across the country can see what the folks in arizona have been watching last month or so. here is mr. matthews about crime a little bit of it, watch. >> arizona has one of the highest deadly shooting rates. >> mark kelly made errors in unsafe. >> so that was your ad about crime. here is mr. kelly's add on climate change. >> you know the climate warms we have more drought in the desert. solving some of the hardest problems requires one thing. that is teamwork. >> steve: it's all about teamwork. four different choices for the people of arizona, climate change or crime. speak on talking everyday about the things people are focuse

we are at the libertarian freedom of fast in las vegas.nd you are here is there an audit to their question requesters definitely an oddity. that's obvious i have long been perceived as associated and i don't think there's a lot of people but at the same time i began writing about politics my focus was concerns over bush,li cheney executive power theory i always had an audience not just on the left but libertarians as well. the first event i ever did the second was at the cato institute. that gives you a flavor for how i've always managed to have these various in my audience frequents how you do that? that's where the left in the right meat? >> i think there are more places were left and right meet then either side likes to admit. i think it says on the left and right are fighting. the two parties have a lot more agreement than our agreed and finding those areas of agreement and trying to build coalitions as a focal point for my beginning too. >> for people tuning and i know that name, give us a sense of some of the issues you have worked o

the libertarian is getting about 2 percentage points. his name is for debbie oliver, that's our well known years here. with that 2 percent of the vote, one would expect you have come from the republican side. libertarians are a little closer to republicans and herschel walker, the republican being a candidate. there are a number of republicans who said they could not vote for him so far. yes or not came out. he said he might come back later and give us a little more. but this race is still too close to call and it's looking increasing like it will go to run off on december 8th, or find out in the coming hours. okay, don't that many thanks indeed, brings the latest there from georgia. that brings us to the end of our special coverage of the u. s. mid term elections for 2022. just for we go. let's give you a reminder of how the senate race has shaped up so far. there we've got 46 seats for the republicans. 47 for the democrats. that's out of a 100. democrats needing only 50 to keep the majority there. the republicans needing 51. it's been

you were called tucker carlson and's mouthpiece, you're a libertarian convention.at have you got for us? >> guest: if you're a journalist and people can't figure out into which box they should place you, for me that's a testament to the fact that you are doing your job. i don't see my role attaching myself to any particular faction or being a reliable ideological spokesman. if i want to do that i would be a spokesman for a party. it's difficult, fanatical right-wing figure given everything we talked about involves my confronting one of the most right wing governments in the world, freeing from prison one of the leftist icons in louis de silva. i've been a fan of people like jeremy corbin, eva more alice in bolivia, after he was the victim of a coup, i think what is happening is left right categories in the united states are eroding rapidly. the idea of opposing nato and us involvement in the war in ukraine a left or right wing idea? the idea of opposing gigantic big tech monopolies a left-wing or right-wing idea, it is more difficult to place people in these catego

. >> i'm watching the libertarian in georgia there is a libertarian on the ballot for the senate raceg, a little campaign strategy inside baseball, the walker campaign i think has done a really effective job of taking that libertarian down to a maybe one to two points. because i think over the summer they realize they'd had a problem. >> how are they doing that? >> very targeted. they figured out a group of voters and microtargeted them, people who would most likely to go away from the republican ticket and go libertarian. they have relentlessly pointed out the libertarian is extremely liberal, in fact, as liberal as warnock. they have relentlessly communicated with those voters via mail and other ways. i want to see how that little plan works out. if walker gets to 50, a big part of it will be this. >> that's a good tidbit. >> stakes are high here. meet that bar, congressman. >> i'm looking at ohio. i was in ohio this weekend. i was in akron today, stumping for amelia sykes who is running against madison gilbert. i think she is going to win that race. she is a former minority leader

and 2020 libertarian vice presidential candidate, chair of you are the power. spike cohen.g news. so inez not the same snap and crackle past trump now. announcement have had. >> snap and crackle was trump's bred and butter. some of his nicknames are off this time. i think that there is a lot of reasons to think trump would not be best candidate for 2024. i don't think that republican voters will be told that by me, you or pages of national review or conservative chatters class, they have to make that determination on their own, i think more whispers there are about establishment not wanting donald trump to run stronger his position is. this is up to the republican voters. kennedy: they will be, based to results from last tuesday night, it has been a mixed bag from different republicans and different parts of the country. juan. sometimes people don't want the same thing in different parts of the great states. you tell me, juan, if the president does in fact announce he is running again, is this the gift that democrats want? but don't deserve? >> well, grover cleveland, i don

the libertarian candidate pulling 2% of the vote in this race.n you go through county by county and compare walker's returns in each county to kemp, there's a clear difference. walker underperformed in a lot of the republican strongholds by at times 2% to 3%. just two counties that we spent a lot of time in. a rural republican stronghold in the northwest part of the state. donald trump won that in 2020 with 80% of the vote. walker, he is behind that by 2%, polling 78% in that county. another county on the other side of the state, the furthest northeast, a republican stronghold, donald trump won that with 78% in the vote. walker at 75%. those are small differences. in a race this tight, small is significant. now it looks like georgia voters will have to gear up. they will have to gear up for more ads, more weeks of this. warnock had run ads in the final push saying, don't have me interrupt your thanksgiving. show up. vote. this race was one that divided a lot of people here. we see that reflected in the numbers. it looks like they both will be int

in some states, libertarians may not contest for office but libertarians in georgia are active and theyularly feels candidates for statewide offices and often even for offices lower down the valley. as third parties go they are one of the more active third parties in the u.s. but specifically in georgia. i have a collie who is active in the libertarian party. i give them full marks for trying to develop as a third party. unfortunately, the way the system is set up, it is biased in favor of two large parties and it is difficult for the parties to gain a threshold. perhaps with proportional voting like alaska and maine. in the case of georgia, the libertarian party usually matters in the sense that does in win enough votes to prevent either party from 14? georgia, unlike many other state requires a candidate when a majority -- win a majority or 50% plus one. if we have a runoff between mr. walker and mr. warnock and libertarian takes 2% of the vote, it will not be sufficient for them to take office but will force a runoff several weeks later between the top two finishers. as to your part

and i think that libertarians will sit this one out. aishah: he says he will. we'll be watching this closely. >> thank you. griff: aishah, ukrainians celebrating the recapture of kherson after months with russia. what they're finding is devastating. we'll talk to a ukrainian parliament member next. >> today is historic day. we're returning to south of country, returning kherson. the people of kherson were waiting, they never gave up on ukraine. hope for ukraine is always justified and ukraine always returns its own. >> and ukrainians are celebrating the retreat of russian troops from kherson as ukrainian forces take back the first city to fall under russian control in early march. day 262 for this war. and joining us from ukraine and the reaction to this development of the ukrainian troops going into kherson. >> well, you know, the mood is very much uplifted, and it's smiles are back on everyone's faces, my own included. and every time i see the news or give interviews and hear about kherson being back under the ukrainian flag, i cannot help, but smile. it's de

about his newest book, "securing democracy" interest in it, that glenn greenwald, we are at the libertarianom fast, festival in las vegas, and you're here. is her an oddity? >> guest: the deathly is an oddity. that's obvious that i've long been perceived as associate with the left and and i don't tht of people from that's true at this particular conference. the same time very early on when i began writing about politics and my focus was concerns over bush-cheney executive power series and some of the trampling of civil liberties and the war on terror, i always had an audience not just on the left but also libertarians as well. my first book the first two that i would did was at the aclu and the second was at the cato institute so that gives you a flavor for our always managed have these various audiences, how do you do that? is aware the left and the right meet? >> guest: i think are more places where the left and right meet than either side likes to admit, and that the media typically conveys because i think what attracts standard media attention is when the left and right are fighting, an

ah, that's right, the libertarian is getting about 2 percentage points. his name is for debbie oliver, that's a well known user, but that 2 percent of the vote one would expect that you have come from the republic inside. libertarians are a little closer to republicans and herschel walker, the republican heating a candidate. there are a number of republicans who said they could not vote for him so far. yes, were not came out. he said he might come back later and give us a little more. but this race is still too close to call and it's looking increasing like it will go to run off on december 8th, or find out in the coming hours. okay. don't that many thanks indeed, brings the latest there from georgia. that brings us to the end of our special coverage of the us mid term elections fort.

i have to imagine it and i got to imagine it' ws goia to mean something that the libertarian has now bailedth out. , in they were polling aroundania, six percent in pennsylvania, less than two pointsle. t fu less than two pointsle. t fu baby brattenin hooty fetterman.t race brattenin hooty fetterman.t race in georgia, it's less than a point. in north carolina, it's abou anyorth carolina, it's abou five in wisconsin. beve in wisconsin. five . ohio, same thing betweenn thre three and d five . let me put it this way. les it is likely that less than one hundred thousand votes from all of theses from states combid will decide the balance of power in the u.s. senatepowe and right now there is no reason to celebrate. these races could go either way. way. you might remember three s in 2016 combined madet the difference. seventy seven thousand votes that put donald trump overpump e the top. and in 2020 three states, ee, forty three thousand votes made the difference for joe biden. no one can predict what i no one can predict what i budet i do know the democrats ae running very scared now. we

and so for libertarians, you know, i think libertarian to have access in many things, and most statesprovide fundamental access to people who are able to show either a minimum level of registered voters and states with party registration, or a minimum level of support on a statewide election. the reason libertarians don't have ballot access in many states is because they don't hit that level, which is often as low as like 1%. so if you can't get one out of 100 people to affiliate with you, you forgot a bigger problem than ballot access. >> i would just add, there are -- some states are more strict than others but there are plenty of other non-legal barriers, the fact you're a small party can't compete with the already existing brands. technically, the alaska system would allow an individual, call themselves a party or just independents to get on, get in there, get in front of the voters so it is a sort of reduction of the ballot but a reduction of the entry barriers to .. in alaska we had a particularly extreme form of the division and the republican party, they had cross party appeal

we're at the libertarian freedom fest festival in las vegas. and you're here. is there an oddity there there definitely is an oddity. that's obvious that i've long been perceived as associated with the left and i don't think there are a lot of people for whom that's true at this particular conference at the same time very early on when i began writing about politics and my focus was concerns over bush cheney executive power theories and some of the trampling of civil liberties and the name of the war on terror. i always had an audience not just on the left, but also libertarians as well. my first book the first event i ever did was at the aclu in the second was at the cato institute, so that gives you a flavor for how managed to have these various problems to my audience. how do you do that? is it it's where the left and the right meat it seems there. i think there are more places where left and right knee then either side likes to admit and then the media typically conveys because i think what attracts standard media attention is when the left and right are fi

do you have any sense of where those libertarian votes would go in a runoff? >> i mean, that's also a good question. and normally you think libertarian voters might vote republican because those are the values that they share in term of taxes and the way they want the economy to be run. and then they don't vote for walker because they just don't think he's a particularly good candidate. but what might happen in the runoff you see these types of voters just don't end up voting in the runoff. that's going to be really the key factor is how well the republicans and how well the democrats can get their voters to the polls again and vote. what we saw with the election of warnock in the previous election he was able to capitalize on all the work stacey abrams had done in getting the vote out for democratic voters. >> it's going to be interesting in the house of representatives of course the red wave became a red trickle. it's embarrassing how narrow their lead is going to be in holding the house, but the truth is they will likely hold it. that doesn't matter by how