to discuss this further let's cross live now to our been involved vice chair of the libertarian national committee thank you very much for being with us here on our team international. so. let's get right to this the u.n. security council only two states among fifteen supported the accusations against russia why such a lack of support. what we're seeing over here is a repetition of behavior from unfortunately united states in the west that i think people are getting tired of the united states is suspended due process in dealing with its own citizens the united states has maintained its you know prisoner of war camps in guantanamo in which people are not getting the right to a fair trial so it's hard to even be surprised when the united states and in this case also great britain are finding people guilty without a fair trial or actually without any trial at all and what we're seeing over here is the united states falling into its own stereotype of just looking for an excuse to cause a fight that the people are going to hire you now you bring up a good point about that presumption of innocence repla

libertarian conference. greta: this week on newsmakers, the chair of the democratic national committee, tom perez. thank you very much for being here. mr. perez: thank you. hollm we also have james an and susan page. susan: thank you. mr. perez: great to be with all of you. susan: there was this remarkable meeting with the president, and bipartisan group of people talking about gun control. the president embraced the democratic proposals democratic-backed proposal when , it comes to gun control. i wonder should democrats seize this opportunity, make a deal with the president, or do you have doubts about whether you can trust him to follow through on these things he says at that meeting? tom: this is like charlie brown and the football. you put the football and lucy pulls it out. we saw this with the dreamers. leadinghis remarkably with senator durbin he said he wanted to help the dreamers. we see this with gun issues. we see it with this off-the-cuff statement about trade enforcement. he is just not reliable. that is the problem we have here. it's a problem for the american people, problem for the

libertarian conference. greta: this week on newsmakers, the chair of the democratic national committee, tom perez. thank you very much for being here. mr. perez: thank you. hollm we also have james an and susan page. susan: thank you. mr. perez: great to be with all of you. susan: there was this remarkable