i happen to think the biggest growing segment of the republican party are those that are libertarian-leaning it yourself, which is you're looking at a growing segment of the republican party. don't you, by the very notion of running as a libertarian, deny republicans votes and, therefore, conceivably handing the victory to president obama? >> no, i actually see it the other way around. new mexico's a state that's 2-1 democrat, i think -- i think more votes are going to come from democrats who will be disenfranchised over gay marriage equality, over the fact that we have so much warfare go on in this country, that we have waged a war against ourselves when it comes to drugs, legalized marijuana. no, i see this as drawing perhaps more votes from democrats than republicans. but worse case, best case, you know what? it's going to draw from both parties, the biggest growing segment of american politics declined a state and independence. i think this is going to draw a big segment of that. by draw a big segment of it, it is about the message. it's about the agenda. and i don't see it being represe

the university of virginia former chairman of the libertarian party which we have more time but we thank you for coming on thank you thank you well still to come here in the program on keeping the business world's top taking a look at the world economic elite set out to tackle the eurozone recession make some profit along the way while those worst hit by financial troubles find themselves locked down. now ten minutes past the hour here in moscow he exposed some of the world's darkest secrets soon you'll get the chance to find out even more when the world's most famous whistle blower launches his own talk show on. joining us on his exclusive series will permit here in march and the world's media is already a buzz about who the wiki leaks founder interview london correspondent laura smith reports. basically we knew that as and wanted to wanted to write and host his own interview show and we made it happen the show is going to be broadcast on t.v. it's going to focus of course on us ologies favorite topic control fifty two thousand and eleven was a solid as his name became one of the most f

in the republican nomination recently dropped out for a run for the nomination to seek the libertarian party's nomination for president and we're hearing tonight that gather i johnson has dropped his bid for the libertarian nomination and instead will be endorsing ron paul. the news about gary johnson, dropping his libertarian party bid and endorsing ron paul was a hoax. so, yeah, sorry. >> that will happen. >> live television, ladies and gentlemen. >> live television, i think that john chancellor is rolling over in his grave. what happened to the standards? >> if you go to -- if you google society of professional journalist ethics code, the first two items are check your source and then check it twice. this is pretty astonishing, and is a value in procedure and checking things and obviously, rachel maddow didn't care i don't think that's fair. everybody makes mistakes and she had a "oops" moment in that. >> did they check it? >> there's such priority getting there first and laid owed. we've talked about it on the show. >> she couched it actually, we're hearing, you know, it does make it sound

recently dropped out of a run for a republican nomination to seek the libertarian party's nomination for president. we are hearing tonight that gary johnson has dropped his bid for the libertarian nomination and instead will be endorsing ron paul. let's go back to chris matthews who's in des moines. >> well, that's fascinating. i'm back with the huffington post howard fineman and "the washington post" eugene robinson. you have news about one of the other tier candidates. >> i think as the numbers are beginning to trickle in i think reality is beginning to dawn on some of the candidates and one of them may be michele bachmann who put such a big effort in here, could not get the full backing, the evangelical pastors in part because of her gender her staffers are saying privately. they don't want to sound like they're complaining. >> some of them said so publicly. she is now about to be told by her inner circle that she should call it quits. and that conversation my understanding has not quite taken place yet but is about to. she is supposed to go to south carolina tomorrow. she may or m

monster crippling the economy and devouring personal liberties this post is from a ninety ninety libertarian party campaign in which to run for vice president the party's political platform is an insight into just how radical his views and those of the free market movement. i saw the abolition of the department of energy the environmental protection agency the food and drug administration and a host of other public health and safety bodies not to mention social security welfare the public school system and of course huge tax cuts across the board but after spending over two million dollars of their own money on the campaign and receiving just one percent of the thought the koch brothers changed course deciding that if people wouldn't come to their philosophy they take their philosophy to the people they created and invested in a network of free market corrects including the establishment in one thousand nine hundred four of a grassroots group called citizens for a sound economy that was the forerunner to americans for prosperity a number of documents have emerged from the citizens for a sound econ

fellow on the one this is a spokes person that you know one of the people very up in the libertarian party i said you know if you want to privatized the social safety net programs do away with free health care cost about five hundred dollars a year to go to college here you know if you've got to worry about student loans and things do away with the social security system all that and he was like well you know in principle people will as libertarians we would want to privatized all those things but we would want to do it here in iceland unless everybody agreed to it. and i want to have that conservative on from the from the national you know party from the conservative party. you know i said conservatives the united states think the we should not have a national health care system easy you know not that we are you can argue where it's the effect of are you crazy and you know we like our national health care system and i still what about to social security system you know and he's like not that's that's that's we want that so i think mostly what makes people conservative here is they don't w

last time around he was a republican presidential candidate, now running on the libertarian party line as well as the former governor of new mexico, msnbc contributor melissa harris-perry, also professor of political science at tulane and author. and also, host of her own show, debuting right here on msnbc on february 4th following this very program, extremely exciting news, really, really excited about all this. michelle goldberg. also coming back, contributing writer for "newsweek," the daily beast and author and msnbc columnist for "the washington post," ezra klein. south carolina, south carolina, south carolina. michelle you're back from there. i'm happy, i'm excited to check in on what you saw firsthand on there. at the beginning of the week, i am really surprised by what haed this week. i am genuinely surprised. i would say it's one of the most surprising weeks we've had in this drawn-out process. there's been a lot of fake surprising weeks in which it was donald trump is pulling ahead of everyone. that was never a real thing. there was no one voting or nothing on the line. at th

and staying with this story let's now get some reaction to barack obama's speech from the libertarian party activist wes benedict who joins us via broadband from louisiana thank you for joining us here on our team that we just heard new promises of even more change but in your view how much improvement has barack obama actually brought over these past three years. well not much from our perspective president obama did say that anyone who tells you that america is in decline is wrong and i think that's just i think he is absolutely wrong i don't blame just president obama you have to blame the republicans the former president bush and republicans in congress as well but we have some major problems here in the united states we're spending way more than we can afford a lot of that unfortunately is on military adventurism your previous guest talked about you know of raising increasing the efforts in afghanistan we should we should never have gone into afghanistan or iraq we should bring our troops home from both right now we're rattling the sabers against iran that is not what we should be doin

remember, you have gary johnson who is playing on a libertarian party line and there's such dissatisfaction about romney being the old republican party. and that's really who put romney together. that you may see some defections to a third party and maybe a fourth party. >> if you're a tea partyier and you've been talking about the banks and how the banks are on society, how do you support a mitt romney? how do you then turn around and say well, you know what? all right, we didn't get everything we wanted but the core of what the tea party stands for is something that mitt romney just does not stand for. that's a problem for him. >> fiscal responsibility. >> i don't know. i mean, the question is, you know, low taxes, he's the governor of massachusetts. he raised taxes in massachusetts. that's going to be brought up. i'm surprised it hasn't been yet. >> but obama -- >> we'll have to leave it there sadly. we only have three hours left. we got to go. mallory, julie and joe, thanks so much. >> thank you! >> all right, 28 minutes past the hour. first, it was apple juice. now tainted o.j. what yo

i happen to think the biggest growing segment of the republican party are those that are libertarian-leaning it yourself, which is you're looking at a growing segment of the republican party. don't you, by the very notion of running as a libertarian, deny republicans votes and, therefore, conceivably handing the victory to president obama? >> no, i actually see it the other way around. new mexico's a state that's 2-1 democrat, i think -- i think more votes are going to come from democrats who will be disenfranchised over gay marriage equality, over the fact that we have so much warfare go on in this country, that we have waged a war against ourselves when it comes to drugs, legalized marijuana. no, i see this as drawing perhaps more votes from democrats than republicans. but worse case, best case, you know what? it's going to draw from both parties, the biggest growing segment of american politics declined a state and independence. i think this is going to draw a big segment of that. by draw a big segment of it, it is about the message. it's about the agenda. and i don't see it being represe

presidential candidate for the libertarian party.r governor of new mexico. a popular one i might add. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me on. >> you're here to talk about a few things. let's talk about the evangelical and conservative leaders meeting this weekend. they put a lot of support behind rick santorum. they're trying to arrest mitt romney's momentum. what does that say to you about where the republican party is headed? >> i see this whole meeting at much to do about nothing. i mean, you got 150 evangelists who meet in texas. on the fourth ballot they support santorum. i don't know how significant it is. i believe the fastest growing sector are libertarian leaning, that would be ron paul. i'm excited by his showing. >> you talk about that. you wrote about this in the daily collar. what does this mean for you because you're talking about the young, the independents, those people that he did well with. that same group that got behind barack obama. but talk about the significance of that for you and your strategy

if you are ron paul and you think the party has mistreated you, you can go to the libertarian party andake it over from here. >> that is absolutely right. >> speaking with the different followers of mr. paul, they are one or two issue followers. one being legalization of marijuana and l marijua marijuana and liberty issue. >> and the war issue. >> right. and when he got hammered by michele bachmann, they stood by him. it's up to the gop nominee to lure them and find a way to get their support. >> your point is the point that allows republicans to sleep at night is that ron paul will not throw a total bomb into the convention and run as a third party. there's people that think with an appropriate campaign we can take back the senate. does he want to go back to the senate and live that? it's clear there a paul is setting up his son. which i'm i'll for i'm all for it. it provides a level of comfort there that he will be a little more responsible when it comes to not helping elect a democrat approximate president. >> it will be how well the republicans look. if it's looking like a cratering

if we would have hung on in 1995, we could have -- the libertarian party could have won the next election. to say we should have hung on a little longer is remarkable. but the point is -- listen, by the way i love sarah and i agree with her. she may have had different experiences with newt than i did in 2007 when president bush showed great courage and started the surge and that's what saved us in iraq, at least militarily. and it was irrelevant and inadequate is what newt said. he attacked ronald reagan in 1986 when we were getting enough attacks from the left. i think mitt romney knows how to work with democrats. that's the case in massachusetts. he knows the private sector. by the way, attacking people who make money in the private sector is -- i guess you will have mr. axelrod on later on, and i think he will be appreciative of that. the point is he has the experience and knowledge and the background, and i have gotten to know mitt and gotten to know his wife and my wife, cindy, has, and i think he is displaying now the kind of delivery and persuasive argument that is going to carry h

i used to be the state chair of the libertarian party the >> we've got to get these other people in too. >> love to have your help. >> hi, nice to meet you. love to have your help tuesday. >> all right. one, two, three. great. >> hi. good luck to you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> he's going to speak tuesday night. >> oh, thank you so much. hello. how are you? hi, how are you? great to have you here. >> i'll be there tuesday. >> thank you. how are you? >> hi. so nice to see you. thank you. thank you. >> hello. >> her writing is better than mine. >> love to have your help tuesday. >> wait, wait. >> here, we'll all get in it! >> there you go. >> that way we'll take less time. >> will that work? >> sure, it will. >> one, two, three. >> great. >> ok. >> thank you all. >> doing good i think. >> i think we're starting back up. >> thank you for coming. thank you. >> ok. have fun. >> good to see you again. >> how are you doing? >> thank you. thank you. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> ok the hello. how are you? had we need your help. well, come to caucus. >> what a pretty wife you've got. wh

my name is randy harrod, i used to be the state commarme for the libertarian party. >> i appreciate very much. >> we got to get these other people in, too. >> love to have your help. >> you guys -- here we are. >> thank you. >> nice to meet you. >> how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> love to have your help on tuesday. appreciate your help on tuesday. >> one, two, three. >> it's been amazing day. >> thank you. thank you. thank you. >> one, two, three. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good luck. >> thank you very much. >> thanks for coming. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> he is going to speak tuesday night. >> thanks so much. >> thanks for coming. >> nice to meet you, thank you. >> hello. how are you? hi, how are you? thank you. >> here we go. one, two, three. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> nice to have you here. >> i'll be there tuesday. >> thanks for coming out. thank you. how are you? >> great, thank you. >> nice to meet you, too. >> thank you. thank you for coming. i need your help. >> see you tuesday. >> all right. >> appreciate it. >> thank you. >> you're a great su

. >> i should let you know that there -- that the news about gary johnson dropping his libertarian partynd endorsing ron paul was a hoax. so -- >> oh -- >> that will happen. >> that will happen. >> live television. >> tell happen. >> i don't know if she made the mistake or a producer. in terms of the lineup on the field here, you know, five unabashed liberals. is that the approach a news network should take? >> well, in 2004 or 2008, i'm sorry, if you remember, they had chris matthews and keith olbermann leading their debate coverage and got huge amount of pushback from people internally at nbc saying, how can we do this, how can we let primetime bleed into what is supposed to be standard news coverage? >> to the point that when it came convention time and election night, msnbc brought david gregory over from the nbc side so a neutral journalist would be in that chair. this time, not only does msnbc go with the commentator -- and they were relatively restrained. you didn't hear that much -- we heard a few things. nobody seems to care. there was no flack about it. >> i think -- i actually

as you've been talking about, a libertarian wing of the party. st, libertarian wing of the party. no real faith in government. these are powerful forces within the republican party. this could be a longer contest than we might think. >> yeah. thank you, david gregory moderator of "meet the press." let's bring in the former chair of the republican party michael steele now an msnbc political analyst. i'm looking at the map we just saw. tell us about the map. two coasts and ed schultz jumped on this, the evangelicals in the middle not buying romney at this point. >> they're not. that's been the story from the very beginning. it has not changed. it still surprises me that people are surprised by that. the base has made it very clear that this individual, mitt romney, has not sold them on him. and so this is an opportunity for them to send out a message tonight on that very point. this is the first time the base gets to put their voice in the mix here in a legitimate way that people have to pay attention and if the trend lines, you know, of course thes

since nineteen forty eight the new one hundred twelfth congress will feature forty two party members a lot of libertarian leaning individuals within that tea party movement especially when it comes to taxes and over regulations band up to this agenda that is taking us in the wrong direction it's a message of. limited constitutional government in the threats of the excessive government regulation of the huge out of control rules that washington is because. there's a new day now the republicans took control of the house in november two thousand and ten very anti government agenda and fact one of their agenda items is to you know take out four government agencies like the part of education part of energy to the p.a. when you have politicians elected who want to shut down the government it sets a pretty interesting tone for the debate for me this newfound zeal for the koch's radical free market ideology is the real we have a. of the tape party movement it has nothing to do with people and yield cos trains or waving flags or holding protest of things but it is a revolution that has everything to do with hidde