david koch ran as a vice presidential candidate for the libertarian party so i think they absolutely have libertarian roots but still even though the cato institute you could argue have done some things that are that are you know in the vein of civil liberties and and good on some foreign policy issues i mean you can argue that they've they're there you can find a buyer of the l a times chicago tribune i mean these are things that are you think that's good for billionaire brother venture capitalist to be buying up media everywhere and you know from my viewpoint the koch brothers really are all about free markets all about free markets they're all about civil liberties they're they're all about the role of active in. the you know i do believe that i do believe that well let's talk about the free market i mean would you support legislation like reinstating legend like glass steagall and if not how do you prevent monopolies from forming or do you think that's all about i do think about those things and i think glass steagall would be something you know looking at it. it seems like a comm

joined by a special guest gary johnson the two thousand and twelve presidential candidate for the libertarian party he'll talk to us about the recent militarization of police and boston bill so american foreign policy that and more coming your way. and an f.b.i. back to bill being drafted by a u.s. task force would punish high tech companies if they refused to comply with wiretaps so what does this mean for your civil liberties we'll investigate. and the f.b.i. is looking into virginia governor bob mcdonnell relationship with a four part c.e.o. the c.e.o. even cater the wedding of the governor's daughter is this another case of buying influence will question more. it's tuesday april thirtieth five pm in washington d.c. i'm megan lopez and you are watching our t.v. all right starting this hour a look back at the events that led to the seizure of an entire city just over two weeks ago the city of boston experienced terror firsthand during one of its most celebrated sporting events as a manhunt ensued to find those responsible for the attack law enforcement put the city on lockdown going door to door

we're joined by a special guest gary johnson the twenty twelve presidential candidate for the libertarian party hope punk was about the recent military as ation of a police force in boston and also american foreign policy that and more coming your way. and f.b.i. back to bill being drafted by a u.s. task force would punish high tech companies if they refuse to comply with wire taps what does this mean for yourself the liberties well investigators. and the f.b.i. is looking into virginia governor bob mcdonnell relationship with a corporate c.e.o. the c.e.o. even cater the wedding of a governor's daughter is this another case of buying influence well question more.

we're not the libertarian party. we're the republican party.his comment after more and more republicans have been coming out in favor of same-sex marriage or in talking about how the issue should be downplayed. karl rove even said it would be possible that the republican presidential necandidate would pr pr pro-same sex marriage in 2016. are social conservatives in need to flex their muscles. rand paul getting too much airtime? >> rand paul is pro-life, he is a conservative, and i think conservatives are concerned, yes, there is a battle over where the republican party is going next, after losing two national elections in a row. and where it goes next and there's discussion, but this is always going to be a party who is pro life, not for gay marriage. i don't see that changing in the near future. >> do you think that's true? i don't think anybody would dispute the pro life thing, but what about the pro same-sex marriage thing? it seem there's are more increasingly republicans talking about how the party should at least not talk about it as much

rick santorum told politico, we are not the libertarian party, we're the republican party. if we had candidates in the last two presidential elections who weren't ashamed of the positions they had on these issues and played offense instead of listening to the same people who now want to abandon the issues, we would have been successful. but many lawmakers have, without any shame expressed their positions. from santorum himself, remember man on dog? to todd legitimate rape aken. or any of virginia transvaginal-probe mandating republicans. these are issues that a growing number of americans find offensive. but since they are a set of values highly unlikely to change any time soon, the question is whether the republican party is willing to leave the people who hold those beliefs behind. and i want to get right to our panel. i'm going to start right with the man who has got the seminary degree, the reverend dr. michael eric dyson. isn't this the big problem for the republican party, we not talking about political positions that the people are taking when you're talking about th

joined by a special guest gary johnson the two thousand and twelve presidential candidate for the libertarian party he'll talk to us about the recent militarization of police and foster bill so american foreign policy that and more coming your way. and an f.b.i. fact a bill being drafted by a u.s. task force would punish high tech companies if they refused to comply with wiretaps so what does this mean for your civil liberties we'll investigate. and the f.b.i. is looking into virginia governor bob mcdonnell relationship with a corporate c.e.o. the c.e.o. even cater the wedding of the governor's daughter is this another case of buying influence will question more.

tea party to libertarians and others. and i am just wondering if you could comment on the san francisco hearing that and helped it from bcdci and which weiner attended as well was fas fascinating and if you could give us a feedback from counties and i know that marin county is coming up on april 29th. and another one on the 29th. and then may first on may day, alamena county and if you could give us some input and that is coming in from the regional counties. >> supervisor, they do say that beauty is in the eye of beholder and that is the case with this plan, using merin as an example. they comprise about 4 percent of our region's population today. and this plan assigns to them about 1 percent of the housing growth in the future. and you would think that we were bringing in a foreign invading army. some counties clearly think that any amount of growth is going to be destructive of the lifestyle they enjoy. and other counties like this one, i think are anxious to take on growth in the right places under the right condition

the other big movement you're seeing within the republican party, the libertarian wing of the party more isolationist, more skeptical of foreign wars, that would seem to be a direct repudiation of the neoconservative policies bush didn't run on in 2000 but that he fully embraced, i think pushed by dick cheney and the neocons in the pentagon. george w. bush got taken off the trajectory of being the kind of republican he was before he was president. he got pulled into this neoconservative wing of the party that made him a disappointment to the third part of the party, evangelicals. he delivered a not and never delivered a ban on abortion. he was pushed away. the one way he was embraced, the idea the media and culture disrespected bush is a lot of the reason the right dislikes obama. >> conservatives on twitter. i understand if i were a conservative and i watched my opening, i would not like it either. i understand. what's interesting is that there is a degree to which he has been distanced from a conservative movement. if you attack george w. bush, conservatives get incredibly upset. congr

the now because you have these couple of strains in the republican party which are real, traditional and valid. you have the libertarian strain which goes back to barry goldwater, live and let live. at the end of his life pro-gay rights, live and let live. and then the religious cultural right which has given the party all its votes in the last 20 or 30 years starting with the prayer issue back in '61. let me ask you, dr. robin armstrong, let me ask you. what is the strongest strain in your history is it libertarianism orthodox cultural values? >> i think it's a combination of both. >> that combination ain't working right now. >> well, i'll tell what you we're talking about in our party is having a big tent. we allow everyone in. actually we're the tolerant party. we allow people who are pro-choice in our party. we allow people to come in who are in favor of homosexual marriage. mr. angelo is a log cabin republ republican. he is a republican, a strong republican. all we're saying is, listen, we affirm marriage is between one man and one woman. we believe that. we're not going to compromise that value. that is what we b

same sex and basically put out the resolution today saying the party as a whole has said it's not going to happen. is there not a libertarian strain out there in your party led by rand paul and people like that who definitely are going in another direction? they're going in a different direction. they're not differing with you. they're heading someone. >> we welcome them in our party they are far of the republican party. i think this is an illustration of how intolerant democrats are, how intolerant liberals are of other viewpoints. you don't have to agree with me on 100% of viewpoints to be part of this party. >> let me ask you about the ruling percentage of this party. this idea of percentages is helpful. it misses the same point. if rick santorum were the nominee of the party, he won iowa caucuses last year, he could win them again next year, next time. if he were the nominee, he'd say, sorry, this is where i get off the bus. whatever, you know, what will be, will be. if you got a nominee like this guy who says, let's go back and look at contraception. the weird thing he did equating bestiality and homosexuality. whole w

green party people and libertarian party people usually have an incumbent's illing $2 million. steve has $1 million or whatever he wants to win that seat. that's just the way it is. what i am for, a third-party movement for independence movement in this country so that we can actually have a political infrastructure on the present level that displaces the democratic and republican parties. host: thanks for calling, ich. tell us about the lay of the landheading into 2014. he talked about running for house seats. what is the current breakdown of the house democratic and republican? guest: in the house, the democrats are 17 each side of getting a majority. to do that would be a historic achievement. since 1900, since the 19th century those number of seats have not been one in a midterm election in which a sitting president is from your party, literally try to buck history to try to take the majority. on the senate side, the republicans ar six seats shot of a majority. that's more in line historical with what can be done. especially the party opposite the president. there's the six-

green party people and libertarian party people usually have an incumbent's billing $2 million.ve has $1 million or whatever he wants to win that seat. that's just the way it is. third-partyr, a movement for independence movement in this country so that we can actually have a political infrastructure on the present level that displaces the democratic and republican parties. rich.thanks for calling, tell us about the label and heading into 2014. he talked about running for house seats. what is the current breakdown of the house democratic and republican? guest: in the house, the democrats are 17 each side of getting a majority. to do that would be a historic achievement. since 1900, since the 19th century those number of seats have not been one in a midterm election in which a sitting president is from your party, literally try to buck history to try to take the majority. on the senate side, the republicans ar six seats shot of a majority. that's more in line historical with what can be done. there's the six-year itch. the public ready to put in people who are not the president's

same sex and basically put out the resolution today saying the party as a whole has said it's not going to happen. is there not a libertariantrain out there in your party led by rand paul and people like that who definitely are going in another direction? they're going in a different direction. they're not differing with you. they're heading someone. >> we welcome them in our party they are far of the republican party. i think this is an illustration of how intolerant democrats are, how intolerant liberals are of other viewpoints. you don't have to agree with me on 100% of viewpoints to be part of this party. >> let me ask you about the ruling percentage of this party. this idea of percentages is helpful. it misses the same point. if rick santorum were the nominee of the party, he won iowa caucuses last year, he could win them again next year, next time. if he were the nominee, he'd say, sorry, this is where i get off the bus. whatever, you know, what will be, will be. if you got a nominee like this guy who says, let's go back and look at contraception. the weird thing he did equating bestiality and homosexuality. whole way

joining us now, the former 2008 libertarian party, vp nominee and author of a brand-new book called "ageddon." is that where we are right now? >> we are. i think things are getting worse. i have an article at foxnews.com right now called "90 days of the obama access of evil." even they ewe see them tongue in cheek, the acts are taxation, regulation, unionization, litigation, irs intimidation, demonization and government strangulation. do you like those rhymes? that's what's killing the u.s. economy. i'm a small businessman. i'm out there in the real world and may friends are getting killed. the taxes are overwhelming and how about this one? i looked it up. government regulations.org, i guess, it is 6,118 new regulations in the last 90 days. if you don't think -- >> steve: the last 90 days? >> obama has sweat shops with lawyers being whip to do come up with new regulations. >> steve: he's kidding. how have do you survive? you follow your wpod. >> by the way texas rangers not mine. i went to 18 of the richest men in america worth $100 million or more. couple of billionaires and asked wh

last november a group of amazing leaders had of occupy little rock the tea party young americans for liberty greens libertarians a dependent sioux name it republicans came out to host and rally it was covered by all the local media in little rock and now it's these leaders on the ground who are going to be hosting the united we stand fast civil and little rock arkansas the rising arena seventeen thousand people this venue holds on june twenty second from six to ten pm and the amount of people that are confirming ralph nader is confirmed to participate michael donna artistic hollywood producer of pirates of the caribbean got a six second sees our producer for the event as well as marcey for grave with a.d.m. who helped produce our producer larry king debate golden state and american idol the ron paul bomb song joran page musician the list goes on and on tatyana more. tali elisabet i'm a zero amber lyon dan johnson larry pratt the president of gun our america really sounds like you've got a whole host of people coming in to. your name to actually had here on the show i think this is going to be very exciting what

every corner of the republican party from libertarians, the rnc, house republicans and the rank and filerty member is now understanding there has to be an earned path away to citizenship. >>> one thing else that congressman graham went on to say is there was a 70/30 chance that legislation would be enacted. however, chuck schumer, part of the immigration eight, says he expects something to happen later this week. however, lindsey graham over the weekend says he thinks a couple of weeks. what's your guess on a proper timeline? >> my guess is within the next ten addition. the anticipation of this week, but certainly the week after that. not only the anticipation, but the work that has gone into it. and as you mentioned, many conservative groups now and organizations of super pacs are not promoting the idea of an earned path to citizenship and coming together on a comprehensive package. and rubio, i think, needs to move. he he needs to be more definitive in his support of this process. he's key to this movement. but i remain optimistic and somewhat hopeful. >> all right. when you talk about

every corner of the republican party to libertarians, to the rnc, house republicans and the rank and ber is now understanding there has to be an earned pathway to citizenship. that gives us leverage on immigration. >> some lawmakers say legislation could be ready by the end of the week. >>> police in new hampshire would really, really like to know where leeland eisenberg is. he's missing again. he took a fake bomb into hillary clinton's campaign office and held several people hostage for five hours. he was sentenced to a halfway house and minimum security and missed a head count today. police now consider leeland eisenberg escaped. he's done it before. back in 2010 he cut off his tracking bracelet and disappeared for a day. >>> north korea may test launch another missile as early as wednesday. the u.s. is watching the movement of two missiles and now has our own missile defense system, seen here, locked and loaded. the missiles are widely believed to be musudans, medium-range missiles with a potential range of 2,500 miles which would put american bases in guam within reach. a report n

every corner of the republican party from libertarians, the rnc, house republicans and the rank and file republican party member is now understanding there has to be an earned pathway to citizenship. that gives us leverage on immigration with our democratic friends. >> i want to follow that on a second but i want to full up -- you're putting new revenue, as a republican, on the table. >> if we do substantial entitlement reform that will save $4 trillion to $5 tr trillion -- >> what the president is talking about in your view substantial? >> this is a step in the right direction, but harmonizing the age for retirement, means testing both programs, cpi adjustments gets you pretty much where you need to go. >> the republican leader of the senate there yet? >> well, i can tell you this, that the republican party would benefit as well as the democratic party from saving the american economy from becoming greece. if the president will lead on this, and he showed some leadership, no democrat will get to his right. nobody is going to adjust the age for retirement if the president doesn't embrace

>> i think he galvanized and reenergized the libertarian wing of the republican party. i don't think libertarians should be seen as a party but a movement and now a movement reasserting itself inside the republican party. >>steve: ronald reagan said libertarianism is the heart and soul of con sefrbtism. >> as the baby-boom generation moves into middle age and late middle age combined with young voters, for the first time in america you have a generation socially tolerant and economically conservative. it is a new day. >>steve: you wrote a column where you talked about how the republican party conducted an autopsy on the last election and realized we're going to have to do a better job of outreach. part of the outreach is to young people. so many of them are libertarians. >> autopsies are usually performed on people who are dead. the good news here is thanks very much to senator rand paul the republican party is very much alive and the fight for freedom is going to get waged within the party. >>steve: for a lot of people who don't pay attention that closely, what do liber

>> i think chances are that the party will be alleges more libertarian, not just to be following randl. i followed ron paul. it was fascinating to see the diverse group of voters who would go to the rally. those rallies were huge. mitt romney never saw a rally as big as ron paul would attract. the ideology attracts young sometimes preppy college students along with bikers and folks who live out in the woods and don't want to be touched by the government at all. it really is a picture of diversity. it may not be exactly the picture the republican party is looking for but it's better than what they have now which is simply a lot of white voters who are elderly and dying off. that ron paul-rand paul group offers them at least some hope. as you say the republican party probably will neve embrace the anti war aspect of the paul message, which is one of the things that's really directed to young people so there is a limit to the paulism for republicans. cenk: i agree with beth. i think it's real, and i think that, you know, we could totally disagree with it, joe but at least it's honest, yo

>> given the tea party's roots in libertarianism and such a strong belief the government should stay out of our private lives, how can the tea party not and i'm not going to say civil unions, who can they not support gay marriage? >> first of all stay out of my bedroom. i don't care who you are. 20 years ago, you would have never -- >> stay in somebody else's bedroom. >> 20 years ago we never would have imagined this being an issue. >> 20 years before we allowed people to marry interrace. 20 years before civil rights. >> let's talk about 20 years from now. an older man wants to marry a younger woman. >> that's legal. >> plural marriages. >> a man wanting to have four wives. i'm all for gay rights. >> the arguments a lot of people use against gay marriage is that it is unnatural. there's nothing legally wrong with a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman. the underlying act isn't illegal as would be taking a child -- when you bring up the argument, it is a false argument. >> john: i give that round to jim. go ahead scottie. really quick. >> the issue is no -- justice scalia bro

. >> how do you get there, talking about the wing of the party that is more libertarian? i think there's a lot of conversations happening within the context of the republican party. about how the republican party is going to reform. i think rand paul has led the march forward. i don't like saying this is a settled issue. it doesn't give americans room to breathe and have a conversation about it. that's what we need to move on an issue. it's okay if there's disagreement even around this table on the issue. the important thing is to have thoughtful conversations about it. >> is the gop having that? is there a civil war in the gop. >> i work on this issue religiously. no pun intended. a and. >> i think the republicans need advi advice. they have to redefine conservatism. it's about rugged individualism. >> did you read my book? >> yes. >> but no, listen to me. it's about individualism. >> i'm going to give you a hint. >> was it reagan? >> whoever has a great grandfather who was president of the united states raise your hand. her, this is herbert hoover's great granddaughter.

much the leading antiwar figures of course on both sides of the spectrum of both parties i remember leftists and libertarians at the time calling for you guys to be running mates because you were so united against the wars and for the restoration of our civil liberties now these factions are so divided they're more. divided than ever before and it just seems like without any representation to have us these dividing factions fighting each other instead of the forces that we should be fighting against is really counterintuitive how do you think it got to be this way and how can we unite these factions to really focus on a cohesive unified opposition again i think that what ron paul and i prove is that there is plenty of space in american politics for a new movement which goes across partisan lines which embraces the concerns of democrats and republicans liberals and conservatives that's based on the truth and protecting the constitution and taking care of our practical aspirations here at home and sharply curtailing this aggression that america has practiced around the world so i think you know ron paul and i