libertarianism because you hear those jews. joined together often when your thought their. libertarianism means that you believe in liberty that's your biggest principle is that you believe in liberty and. so really i consider anarchism to be the most libertarian you can possibly be and so there's a lot of different sort of factions of libertarianism some people call themselves minute because they're like well we still need a government we don't believe the world can six just without a government it will be too chaotic that government needs to be as small as possible solution people who call themselves men are because constitutionalists even and they call themselves libertarians as well but i consider africa's them to be the fullest extent of libertarianism where like even if it is possibly worse you still have to stand by your principles and still say that no one should be enslaved by anyone else so it's the most purest form of libertarianism ok so the devil's advocate here and here is a country that has you know it would be in a state of anarchy as that term is used more

one is libertarian. henry rejects the idea that reagan was a libertarian. reagan was a libertarian but he wasn't libertine. he was traditional on issues like a drug use and other, the other excesses of the 1960s, flower child generation, but he was, as one of reagan's very underappreciated pestilence was a good friend of mine, john patrick diggins wrote a very important book called faith, freedom and the making of history. and in the first paragraph of the first page he says reagan to his inspirations, his libertine inspiration from thomas paine. .. it's because reagan synthesizes the two and he believes that man is a spiritual being and therefore, if man is at the center of the universe, it's because god wanted him there and as a spiritual individual, god is in that man so there's not no contradiction in reagan's mind by being an advocate of thomas paine and he finds a third way, synthesizes the two positions. in 1975, just weeks before he was going to take on gerald ford in the republican primaries for president of the united states gives an interview to

one is libertarian. henry rejects the idea that reagan was a libertarian. reagan was a libertarian, but he wasn't libertine. he was traditional on issues like drug use and other, the other excesses of the 1960s flower child generation. but he was, as one of reagan's very underappreciated historians who was a good friend of mine, john patrick diggins wrote a very important book could "faith, freedom and the making of this history." and in the first paragraph of the first page, he says reagan drew his libertarian iption separation from thomas paine. and as a matter of fact, he quoted paine often. his two favorite philosophers were -- [inaudible] and paine. he cited them often. now, i don't want to get too much in the weeds here, but in the 1980 campaign, he uses curious phrase. we all say man and god. reagan says man with god. and this is a very interesting intellectualization of how he is able to, as i said, a third way. the synthesis of paine, who's the very flower of the enlightenment which teaches man is at the center of the universe, and solts notice sin

libertarian opposed him in 1980 and 1984. reagan talks about smaller government about lowering taxes and he never does it. in 1980 that ronald reagan was the worst of the candidates and you saw it throughout the presidency where time and time again, oppose ronald reagan from the right, jack kemp. newt gringrich opposed ronald reagan's social security reform in vote of the house floor. i actually looked it up, craig, so i know that's correct. it raised taxes as part of a compromise. reagan in dairies refers to people as ultras throughout his career. reagan was a principled man. he was not a libertarian, he was not an idealog. i got an e-mail. i wrote a piece in politico. reagan's first national security writer adviser wrote my boss, today i wrote a fantastic piece. how the right gets reagan wrong and i would like to tell them so . [applause] >> you have 12 minutes to go at it. >> but you don't get all 12. >> all right. i will put my guard up. >> reagan is a new deal and then he goes in to how reagan managed economy and managed

how does he go to supporter of the new deal to libertarian conservative and by the way he was a libertarian that's where you're wrong. [laughter] >> but it is an important discussion which is why we are here today and it's why his book was written. knowledge is good. nobody saw animal house, i guess. [laughter] >> i did. >> okay. [laughter] >> how does reagan go by this journey, who are the effects on him, who does he talk to, what are the affects of hollywood, what are the affects of college where he's an economic major and first learned that cause of great depression and starts down the path of becoming a free trader for economic professor where he developed reading of the viena school of economics. so worthy discussion. it's important discussion. i think also is -- is that he henry writes in his book that reagan's mind and writing and thinking and intellect has been underappreciated and i think that that's also true. marty anderson who was one of reagan's closest aides for many years, very dear friend of mine, he thought reagan's iq was 150 or higher, he thought he was at genius level th

made three white house bids twice as a republican and once in one nine hundred eighty eight as the libertarian party's presidential nominee he's an outspoken advocate for limited government personal liberty and low taxes he's the founder of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity and you can catch him on line as the host of the ron paul liberty report and ron joins us from lake jackson texas good to see iran. good to be with you larry good to see you again how do you respond to those as they drum as exchange of marriages to dish rules globally to. isolationism it looks like trump against the world how do you feel. well i'm still trying to figure it out you know i looked at it when trump was the candidate and he was saying things that it was. that were appealing to me like we at least ought to talk to the russians and that seemed ok and he talked in america first he said something that he was reserved about his endorsement of nato but those positions sort of are flip flopping they go back and forth and then he becomes the champion of say nato and you know i as a libertarian we like less

now you had ha libertarian group who spoke up. >> that is right.e managed to rally over 200 students who bravely opposed the takeover and -- john: saying we want to go to class? >> that's right. they started chanting at assembly, they wanted to go to classes. marxist students didn't know what was going on because they weren't opposed. john: they called you a terrorist. >> right-wing fascist and threats to them with bombs. >> unfortunately this experience is becoming all too common seeing in student for liberty. last year in venezuela during student protests against the regime we took threats against our student leaders so seriously we helped evacuate them to neighboring country to protect them but more recently we've seen nazis break into students for liberty events in serbia and assault some of our students to try to shut down conversations. we've seen our students arrested in the gambia. we actually just learned about one of our students being beaten up by police in ethiopia, just a couple weeks ago. simply for holding an event to discuss these i

>> i do call myself a libertarian as well even though i'm not really a part of the libertarian party at all, yes, i think this is really true. that which is exactly right. we can not have a situation where women now substitute the government, okay, for the male figures upon which we used to depend, for economic sustenance. i think we need many more actual parties in the united states. the problem we have this giant big tent parties, the two, which suck up all the oxygen and all the money, become a kind of porridge. there is no clear thing. countries that have multiple parties, 12 or 13 parties, often are very fractured. they have to form coalitions in order to govern. so i can see the difficulty of multiple parties in a country of our size but absolutely no doubt need drastic reform of the present party structure. it will only come from the challenge, i'm trying to develop the green party too, even though i don't necessarily agree with the everything that the green party stands for. so are you, would you say that you are in terms of your economic policy, as a libertarian, do you thin

right because a libertarian organ would normally be towards eliminating the entire inheritance tax in general the idea is well it's private the held wealth it should basically you can do whatever you want with it you can give it to your children you can be with the charity you could you know do it what you choose when you pass away and you know her argument is basically getting the state out of its role in terms of as an arbiter but the same time keep basically taking away the right to pass on that wealth when you die because you have to give it away before you die i suppose you want to put your children so it's you know it's an interesting argument she also gets in this idea of getting rid of private land ownership which goes to more the idea of common the idea of the commons the idea of like you know what we would see with indigenous cultures historically that have more to do with being shared and they have you know were sponsibility that has to be jointly held rather than privately held where you don't have this is so it's a bit of a little accountability responsibility shown but i

s up there i think they're a little bit more in the libertarian with a little out because we do kind of i think there subside i may not agree with certain lifestyle or i might people might not agree with something but i was always kind of i think a little bit of a midwestern thing for us is we just don't think the government should be but why is the government telling anybody who they can and cannot marry why do i have to have the government's position permission anybody that's sort of where i think i was always instilled with that fear of the government taking things too far like be wary when the government is telling you who you can marry and where you can go and i think the thing about land or an ownership is interesting because right now the way that we deal with land ownership is we're still paying rent to the government in the form of another chance this is we don't really own that the government doesn't we rented from i want to hear what she had finally. you know immigration you know how does immigration work in a world without nations it's let's see what you have. so we have

on firing line included, not only fellow conservatives of various stripes, traditionalists and libertarians and moderate republicans and so forth, but also people in the liberal and further to the left side of the spectrum. in fact, i think his favorite guest host subbing for him was michael kinsley who is a famous and is a famous liberal commentator, so why don't you say word about why our students should care about william f buckley. who was william f buckley? >> first of all, it's a great honor to be back at the madison program and in this room. are given many lectures in it, most recently, so it's a pleasure to be back. william f buckley to start i think was probably the most influential private citizen in american history if you think about this. never had a government job, had a few honorary commissions he served on ran for office one time, got 13%. he pushed his when the public stage at the age of 25 when he decided to write a book that criticized of all things yale university. his first major opponent was he oh university. yale university made one major mistake that i tell my studen

libertarian, because you better be careful. a lot of people that might. it was he threat to all of these groups who may have complete contempt for each other. he expected if the soviet union dissolved the movement would have some of its prior tensions come back. comes back in the administration of george bush. george bush 43, because, why are we having all these crusades around the world? we thought the world would get ther without the existential threat. we remove the, sustention threat. if george bush believed saddam had weapons, much better to be many bear assed not finding weapons than the other way, than ignoring it then having an incident. buckley would say about the career right now. however we found out there weren't weapons what are we doing there? who gave us the right to rebuild iraq? i mean the french helped us win at yorktown. they left. they let us have their, our own civil war. they didn't stay around. we might be speaking much better, much better wine cellars had they stayed around but they didn't stay around. why are we rebuilding iraq? h

there's no reason to have government in the first place then you start falling into this kind of libertarian utopianism which tends to be very strong on the west coast of america which says well we can manage ourselves we can police ourselves but clearly facebook and twitter come police themselves that's why we're having this conversation. and that's why the e.u. is getting involved what's why this debate is becoming increasingly important in the world today and her claim thank you very much for this interview thank you. i've observed events of the past few years and asked myself several times what's going on in my native germany. millions of refugees. u.s. intelligence agencies indiscriminately listening in on german citizens of the government. and once again. at least. from various political parties and various independent experts and journalists in an effort to understand just how independent germany really is when it comes to decision making. whether it acts on its own national interests or is out someone else's will. fifty years ago the american naval vessel u.s.s. liberty was brutally

there's no reason to have government in the first place then you start falling into this kind of libertarian utopianism which tends to be very strong on the west coast of america which says well we can manage ourselves we complete selves but clearly facebook and twitter come police themselves that's why we're having this conversation that's why the e.u. is getting involved what's why these debates become. creasing really important in the world today. thank you very much for this interview thank you. fifty years ago the american naval vessel u.s.s. liberty was brutally attacked by israeli forces the attack on the liberty was one of the worst assaults committed by an allied country since then the survivors of this unprovoked attack have been seeking justice. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt. and taken your last turn. up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry suddenly i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest . i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath. but then my feelings started to chang

the united states to change whistleblower protection laws at the state and local level and the libertarians at least are hoping that once people realize the value of whistleblowers to democracy to the economy and then certainly to the national security that those laws will filter up to the federal level and eventually will have protections at that level you know earlier you said whistleblower should be praised and usually we see them persecuted now one of the events at today's summit was there was a blogger legislative campaigns discussing protections for a whistleblower so in your opinion what kind of protections do whistleblowers need the most well there are already some protections not full protections the problem with the current was a blower protection law here in the states is that national security whistleblowers are exempt from its coverage so if you are with the cia n.s.a. the f.b.i. d.o.d. or any of its components and you blow the whistle on something that you see that's illegal the chances are that you will be persecuted you will be prosecuted there are no protections there that

john: but not a libertarian conference. but i have to tell you how libertarian guy was when i started a business. christianity change my world my perspective but when i went into business to find out how the heavy-handed government was i began to trend very right. [laughter] [n][applause] john: government makes it harder but is it tougher because you are black? >> it is interesting with the narrative of the left. is it tougher for someone to achieve if they are not white? who says it is harder? how many say it is not harder? the majority here. >> fame understand american exceptionalism and the dream so one to grab ahold of that you can be what everyone did america and now they will die for america it is somebody else's fault so they keep the narrative alive so day have discouragement. john: i have that with our facebook response. the american dream is alive and well if you happen to be born white and straight and mail with all the parents. >> we keep hearing this. it is untrue but with those dynamics. >> the american dream

the federalist society describes itself, and i quote, a group of conservatives and libertarians to correct the political cal order. it includes the coke brothers. this is the group that president trump personally thanked for selecting his list of supreme court nominee finalists. so far this year every trump judicial nominee whose had a hearing before our senate judiciary committee has been a federalist society member. coincidence. i don't think so. i would urge my republican colleagues not to let the federalist society serve as the selection committee, the secret handshake to become a federal judge for life in the united states of america. we want a federal bench that welcomes independent and impartial thinkers. mr. bush's federalist society membership shouldn't be his ticket to the federal bench. in conclusion, this vote, when it comes to his nomination, is really in the a close call. it is a clear that mr. bush has friends in high places, but he's demonstrated a temperament and a judgment which we should not put in a lifetime position on the federal courts of appeal. urge my colleagues t

someone who is a libertarian but admittedly one who is strong on national defense and a little more, don't think that's been the best policy. yes, obviously, the media is liking to talk about this in terms of paris and it's a very hot topic. i think on certain channels that have been more liberal -- steve: well thought trade. what about the economic aspects? >> i take a different view. i strongly disagree with president trump on trade. he is a restriction as i'm very pro- free trade. it's difficult to come from a scottish family that decided to settle in america in seattle and have a problem with free trade. i do think one thing that is worth noting we were talking about free trade is, the deals have been that great. i'm not saying that from the effect of a brain them in and restrict them the way that trump does but if you look at things like tcp, you have a situation where vietnam had an incredibly long time before it had to tear down its tariff to american goods. that's not free trade, is it? if you're talking about european union has come down to saying there will be penalties of

i have to tell you for me a libertarian conservative that wants to see lower taxes and less spending with nobody fighting for causes like this. the spending wins. the red flags are all over this. i only go by my wonderful radio audience. this took seven years. maybe they're unhappy with me. why do they take this long to come up with obama care. it's neck and happen. it should've been under the radar. you go and you talk and you have a little espresso. when you have a cannoli. they took too long. there are 70 people who said that tax reform that reforming an entire system. it is a general tax undertaking. some people said it is dependent. on the passage of health care. know what your seat which is very interesting. so me republicans peeling off and become an un- invested in the senate bill. because actually want to see obama care fail and tie that to the democrats. but they can't agree and obama care fails. the law as it stands down. they had been told so much for so long. there is a fix. what do we want to do. wrong move. you said it on your show. tax cuts should have been first. the

ago,u know, several years i was in a libertarian social function, and somebody said, would you consider the biggest threat to our freedom and our well-being? and i suspect they thought i was going to say the terrorists or the muslims of the communists with illegal aliens, or the drug dealers or something. and i did not hesitate. has said the biggest threat is a national security state.

i like his libertarian stance if that's what he's talking about with tax reform and maybe healthcare getting back to a free market. the other stuff is just more government speak for letting the government get in there and sell things. it actually interferes with job creation. it has involved re- regulating or basically trying to crush vast parts of our economy. it is even in the internet and financials and we we've gotten some 3% growth over that time. i find it hilarious to hear him complain. and obviously played at critical role in that. it doesn't matter. he has profited off of big government for sure. i do agree with the sentiment there. and from the wood -- from the richest to the poorest. not to the degree that donald trump is talking about but i think we have to get our house in order. there are no clear solutions for that. it is a great talking point. where are the on-the-job solutions. but so you can make a real difference. whether it is vast tax reform where smaller businesses would pay the same rate as a big businesses and that seems to be going to know where's though at t

>> well, i love these because they are libertarians like myself, and they have a track record, unlike other comedians out there, of actually being political, showing conservative ideas and libertarian ideas through their skits on the show, but i think that this is a lesson for the "saturday night live" because they realize that it was going too far left. they realized that it's only funny so much of you making fun of the president. true indeed, celebrities and comedians make fun of every president but seems like for this particular president that they're targeting him and it's nasty, not so much as being funny but literally attacking the president. liz: feel like it's getting old. lawrence jones, good to see you, thank you. >> thanks, liz. liz: good to see you. united airlines apologizing for another debacle. this time united airlines gave away a two-year-old's $1,000 ticket, his seat to another passenger. we got that story for you. >>> also the billionaire founder of facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is back to pushing a socialist idea of giving everybody, everybody a basic income, meanin

this campus has hosted dozens of speakers over the years from the conservative libertarian movement. >> reporter: student affairs tells the college republicans that they can't identify an available venue for 500 people on september 14. but the emails go on to say the university wants to work with the group to come up with options. the university also says all student groups now have to follow new speaker rules, requests must be made eight weeks in advance. groups must submit publicity materials to an adviser at least 5 weeks in advance. and groups may need to meet with uc police for a security assessment six weeks in advance. >> so come, let's sit down and get the ball rolling. that hasn't happened yet. >> reporter: in berkeley, jessica flores, kpix 5. >>> friends of senator john mccain say the arizona republican and his family were spend the next few days considering his treatment options after he was diagnosed with an aggressive brain tumor. the 80-year-old remains optimistic. he tweeted today, quote, i greatly appreciate the outpouring of support. unfortunately for my sparring par

they believe that rand paul, who is a libertarian they're hoping other conservatives are ultimately not going to shrink. even if they don't like aspects of the bill taking their last best chance to substantially overhaul obama care. what they're trying to do is figure out ways to defer or retain some of the obama care taxes. they'll have more money to play with to increase funding for opiod addiction treatment and also for medicaid, which is a big concern for people in states like ohio, west virginia and alaska. >> let's assume the senate manages to pass the bill. what's the reaction likely to be in the house? will they take it or what? >> that's a very tough decision for the house. i think if you start to get a senate bill that retains some of the obama care tax increases, it becomes much more difficult for the house to take the senate bill and send it to the president for signature. he wants to get this off his plate and get the tax reform, that would be a hard decision for if they pass the original version of the senate bill, i think the house within days would have passed it, put it

but for the president's more socially liberal or libertarian-minded supporters with regarding campaignmises to be very pro lgbtq, it can't be read as anything other than a complete contradiction and a slap in the face. >> reporter: even lawmakers in his own party seem to be caught off guard. >> i don't know what the policy proposal is. i don't know why he decided what he did. but i think the right way to do this is have a hearing so you can hear from both sides. >> reporter: senator john mccain a war hero now chair of the armed services committee saying there is no reason to force service members who are able to fight, train and deploy to leave the military regardless of their gender identity. it's the latest salvo for a president who made history by mentioning the community in his gop acceptance speech. >> as your president i will do everything in my power to protect our lgbtq citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology. believe me. >> reporter: last year the obama administration effectively lifted a ban on transgender people serving openly in the military,

policy analyst in the office of the secretary of defense and in toronto we have andrew moran he is a libertarian writer journalist and author of the war on cash right gentlemen cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate michael let me go to you first in washington i think when i say that the term neo con you know who i'm talking about what group of people i'm talking about particularly since you probably were working with them during the start of the illegal war against iraq they were their road record their track history is abysmal i mean catastrophic the body count is high the prestigious loss is enormous and the drain on the treasury is almost hard to imagine but michael they're still in business how does a track record to fail you keep you on the major networks on the cable stations and on the main opinion pages of the papers of record how do. that happen well in this town it's trying to remain relevant and i think that's what the neo cons of done by glomming on with the the hawkish liberals in this town and the by that i mean they they all

so they have certain libertarian streaks and that's what the politico science professor observes andture >> thank you. >> thanks for coming in tonight. >> now i know what generation z is. >> there you have it >> we'll be right back everybody. ♪ ♪ >>> talk about young journalistses in act. a seattle high school reporter scored an interview with the u.s. secretary of defense, james mad dog mattis. how did teddy fisher get a 45 minute interview with the retired four star marine corp general? this photo. was published in the "washington post" back in may. and onhe the bottom corner, that's mattis's cell phone number. the man carrying it is president trump's long-time body guard. fisher called the number, sent a text, mattis called fisher back and did an interview. it recently ran in the mercer island high school newspaper. give him a lot of credit for taking the initiative, taking the football 10 running with it. i suspect teddy has nothing to do with any other media outlet played into the strategy there >> the generation z? >> that could be generation z. i think -- we'll have to check w

the destruction of concentration of power that's adam smith compare it with what's now called libertarianism which means we take what we want to heckle there volatiles it without solidarity your society disintegrates in essence and that's the point remember marker. thatcher there was no society which was an ideal not a description in fact the unwittingly she was paraphrasing marx who would condemn the french aristocracy if the repression because they were turning society into a sack of potatoes an amorphous mess and two in which individuals could not participate in function that's the new liberal ideal which such are stated quite accurately let's talk about run the regulators and this is bad and the capture of regulatory agencies by the very industries that are supposed to be regulated from regulatory capture goes way back very commonly the business world has actually instituted regulation of supported it to protect themselves from the highly destructive effects of an unregulated market which can be extremely destructive in the business world those norah been destroyed so they're kind of eit

libertarian, we do this, we have complained about making adjustments to bathrooms in order to put in muslim foot baths in public universities, we objected to a teacher who was denigrating a student because he had a belief in the bible. teachers should not have opinions about the correctness of religion. they've got enough work to do teaching geography, teaching well the subjects that are outside of the ambit of promotional religion. host: we started with a supreme court case just decided. you mentioned other cases involving religion coming up. what are you watching? guest: i'm watching a case involving masterpiece bakery, a case in colorado where two gentlemen who could not get married lawfully in colorado at the time decay started, they went to massachusetts, got lawfully married, came back and asked a baker to bake a cake for their post-wedding event. he refused to do so because he did not believe that he showed, as a matter of moral principle, bake a cake for gay people. ,ow, this raises the question what happens if you have a religious belief that trump's -- that was a verb the j

the more libertarian republicans had won, below republicans came up with was not as compelling as defeat. >> fishing to be no effort from the white house to mobilize supporters to get to capitol hill to have an opposing viewpoint. does that surprise you? isa little bit because this not a president that has trouble drawing crowds. the favorite super pac of the president even propose the idea of having some protests during the longer recesses -- i should say rallies in favor of this and people weren't showing up. existedgroups that have have shrunk since the beta the movement since 2009 and 2010. they are mainly focused on having these meetings with top republicans saying pass it. when they had a concrete goal it was something that didn't have purchase especially in the republican caucus. it was some and start over, which is easy for them to say, does run the 2018 election on the failure of obamacare. it's tough for them to say sorry you lost insurance but we need to fix is after the next election. >> a big week for john mccain. what were your looks at how he performed? whole drama. the sp

i'mer: as a libertarian concerned about national databases of any kind. am not too thrilled with the national database part. but i think we need a little transparency from your guest. i voted for gary johnson. i hope he would disclose who he oned for, but he gives saying there is no evidence of this so why investigate it? there is no evidence that trump colluded with the russians either, just a lot of smoke and fire so why bother investigating it? third, there is evidence of a lot of voter fraud. in jill stein's searching for windmills in both wisconsin and michigan there were several precincts were more votes were cast the number of registered voters. they quickly shut that down, particularly in michigan at of embarrassment. this is not only about illegal immigrants voting. getting out the vote campaigns were people were filling out stuff. please tell us who you voted for, tell us your political lining. should not be ashamed for it. then we can go on. guest: thank you for the call. this is a nonpartisan organization so we don't come from is from a politi