that unlike libya. the consequences would be far higher i'm not suggesting that what happened in libya is not serious enough but talking of libya i must tell you one of the difficulties that we are having insofar as the situation in syria is concerned is that the security council's expedience in respect of resolutions nine hundred seventy and seventy three on libya. vitiate inc the atmosphere in terms of the approach to words how to deal with the situation in syria it is reported that in the coming days the security council will be possibly voting on a resolution drafted by western countries on syria calling in part for the for the assad government to surrender its powers given the dynamic of the security council right now the positions being taken by the numbers do you think this resolution will be adopted if the proposition were to be advanced that somebody should handle the power. in other words a regime change proposition i think some members of the council including my own delegation would have a l

more of libya's role in this is a struggle of dividing libya's resources among greedy people rather than taking libya's resources and giving it to the libyan people is why it seems to be failing and i think it will continue to fail and in the process this is the u.n. human rights commissioner has also said there are severe human rights violations in libya with those violations i mean do you think again t.c. will ultimately be able to keep libya's rival tribes together as good of it. well the libyan government now of this transitional government that's supposed to prepare for elections is trying to to keep the internal peace by taking selected individuals from certain tribes and certain regions and putting them in positions of authority this is not going to work because yes you may satisfy one or two individuals from a particular region. claim that you have satisfied the region but there is not going to satisfy the aspirations of the libyan people the libyan people want freedom and democracy they don't want a transitional government that's made up by subdivisions of power structures

wu with us it became important to say, this is libya. let's take what we've learned in all these other places, apply them where we can apply them, but in other places just ignore those points. examples: afghanistan has the ability to spend quite a bit of isr. there are people on the ground to give intelligence information. we had no boot on the ground, no nato boots on the ground, and two predator orbits. so that tells you a little of the kind of intelligence we were getting or the sources we were getting from was limited in the beginning. also, the changing of the process. possibly identify a target as friend or, in this case, regime forces was a matter of minutes, not hours, of observation. and we went through this. probably what cost us the most was to adapt to our targeting processes. targeting process starts with intelligence and intelligence gathering. and you have to use work intelligence to do the job. we have national intelligence network. then these must be blended into either former coalition such as spy in canada and new zeal

and the situation in libya. part of the main reason for this is the fact that no revolution can succeed if it comes on top of foreign tanks and basically the libyan revolution has come with violence instigated from outside unlike the egyptian and the tunisian revolution. now here in right situation in libya has been drawing attention hasn't it with reports of food detentions in the torture of gadhafi supporters can the m.t.c. ever hope to build a stable state against that kind of background. well the problem with the sea is that it was a concocted group of people primarily western supported nato people who were put in power basically to topple moammar gadhafi because simply he was an unreliable dictator for the worst even though he had approached the west in two thousand and three and has repair his relationship with the west but they wanted to change because libya has basically and this is why they have pushed for a change in government in libya. and they put this transitional council which is a council that is

this was the least we could do for you and for libya. the papers show the cia seized in bangkok thanks to an m i six tipoff saadi was supposedly snatched by the m i six in hong kong both men were sent straight to libya and the notorious abu salim prison where they say they were tortured there are statements from calle thirteen saying. that. they do not wish torture to happen. in the context of the death of his regime those sorts of statements of western essence i mean everyone would have known that there was an extremely high risk indeed almost certainty that these individuals will be tortured but by that point the british government's love in with gadhafi had already begun turning him from their sport to darling and it wasn't just good daffy you reap the rewards it's a mark allen was britain's negotiator in what was a two way deal it was in this exclusive london clubs of mark owen said to have met . his intelligence chief the alleged occasion a top secret dinner to celebrate the end of negotiations libya gets a seat at the international

libya. forming a cohesive sentence on geopolitics can be a struggle i do not agree with the way he did it for reasons. i. know that's that's a different one differentiating between friends and enemies is also a challenge obviously got to stand with our north korean allies in the case of republican candidate mitt romney mixing up presidents and prime ministers can be common i think that president bush represents a real threat to the. stability and peace of the world the overarching ignorance on international affairs has caused american political commentator bill maher to conclude i think anybody could be president in this dumb contrie ok sort of like at this point now where i think if you're gonna be it when you register to be a candidate you also have to go take a test about foreign affairs and if you fail the test we might get you one chance to take it again and then i'm say sorry go run you know for city council in your little town in alaska if a country with the world's highest national g

libya. there's no sign of a break in deadlock just yet the arab and western backed regime change resolution calls for the. syrian president to step down if this does not happen within fifteen days further measures could take place and russia says no thanks we've seen this similar scenario in libya and this particular case moscow says what's important is for talks for syria to exercise its sovereignty for the opposition and the government to sit down together moscow has offered russia as the central. stage for these negotiations but it's important to say that russia still believes that a consensus can be found within the united nations security council it says that broad resolutions that are dangerous should not be put on the table that can split the council and really aggravate any sort of conflict and it continues to call for the importance of arab observers to are remain working on the ground this is what you're going to reporting there from new york now the u.s. as well as its european an

libya was nor for absorb but not about total board as there usually on libya was pickton see videos but not about syrians. and as the political tit for tat continues to play out an increasingly polarized population watching their lives and country brought to a standstill sanctions a crippling the economy and the increase in violence is raising the death toll daily the geopolitical wrangling now seems to be overshadowing the issue of basic human rights for the people living in syria. a lot of russia's main concerns in syria was the prevention of military action similar to that seen libya but now that the resolution has been blocked the only way for western nations to intervene is to go beyond the un mandate which some likely before. chinese university of hong kong. the chinese have a sense of being true because of an authorized forms and. do you know and it has been your digital to be in the opposition so are the chinese citizens or bugging the trimmers time i would use is unlikely to learn two balls and if there inductance are similar to the situation of. only military action was is lik

dot com we have details on the death of libya's former ambassador to. brown's who died just one day after being detained under the new government that and much more is waiting for you at r.t. dot com. these are the images the world from the streets of canada. operations are ok. coming up to twenty minutes past the hour let's take a look at some other headlines from across the globe president mohamed nasheed has resigned amid a police mutiny following weeks of popular protests the crisis drew to a head when authorities ordered security forces to remove barriers between government and opposition supporters protesting close to each other but the leader had earlier come under fire for blasting the chief judge of the criminal court accused him of being loyal to the country's former president she'd swept to power in two thousand and eight pledging to bring more democracy to the island state. factory in eastern pakistan has collapsed after down loaded in the building rescue workers are struggling to reach dozens of people trapped under the debris a day after t

because in the case of libya when the security council adopted resolution one nine hundred seventy three allowed for a no fly zone and also included an arms embargo on libya but in the meantime western countries were not imposing that arms embargo on the opposition groups instead the opposition groups were being armed by western countries by nato countries and i ambassador churkin believes this can be a repeated case in syria because as of now many members of the security council do not even acknowledge that the opposition groups are rising up against syrian president bashar al assad are armed where are those arms coming from those arms stop coming if there is an arms embargo imposed i'd syria and in the aftermath of libya and what transpired there and master churkin believes that the security council will not necessarily fairly let's take a listen to what he had to say. as i was working it would seem logical to say if there is a conflict let's not support arms there that we saw what happened in libya in our imperfect world this would have meant the following no i am surprised that the g

as there usually on libya was. not about syrians. and as the political to attack continues to play out an increasingly polarized population and watching their lives and country brought to a standstill sanctions a crippling the economy and the increase in violence is raise. the death toll. political wrangling now seems to be eva shattering the issue of basic human rights for the people living in syria. but one of russia's main concerns in syria was the prevention of military action similar to that seen in libya but now that the resolution had been blocked the only way for western nations to intervene is to go beyond the un mandate which some likely that's the belief of professor song from the chinese university of hong kong. the chinese have a sense of being truly trying because they have been authorized nato for using force. is has been you. are in to be in opposition so are the chinese citizens being betrayed last time i was you know it's unbelievable. doctors are similar to the situation of. an image reaction is likely it must be g

today, there is reason for hope in libya. in june, people will vote for the first time in national elections, but not everyone is happy. there are reports of continuing human rights violations and some rebel militias remain armed. out of respect for those who died, the new leadership has not organized celebrations at a national level. a year after protests first erupted, many people remember the victims with traditional muslim prayers. >> not everyone is joining in the celebrations in libya. >> that has everything to do with the fact that the revolution has not brought about positive changes for everyone. >> we have this report on activists who are doing their best to remind their new leaders of a lot of unfinished business. and he is on his way to libya's state broadcast. it used to be an organ for gaddafi's propaganda machine appeared to become a civil rights activists make use of the studios. he produces talk back radio with the host. listeners can call in and ask questions about the new libya, about politics, and their ne

from the libya was north but not total border as there usually on libya was. but not about syrians. and as the political tit for tat continues to play out an increasingly polarized population and watching their lives and country brought to a standstill sanctions a crippling the economy and the increase in violence is raise. tom de lay the g eight political wrangling now seems to be shattering the issue of basic human rights for the people living in fear. continues to receive haase remarks and it's going to veto a draft resolution on syria and us being one of the most vocal times correspondent i think ask abbas's this criticism is not justified in washington repeatedly blocks un resolutions critical of israel i would start paraphrasing susan rice i would say that the international community is the real one not made to and seeks a person go monitors in the g.c.c. is this guy just it by the travesty of repeated us vetoes in a de un women ever the topic of israel cups so israel us can veto any c. regarding as well as or can keep but killing men and women and children palestine but alway

does live as groups fighting in libya finished fighting in libya have transferred over to help some of the syrian opposition groups and do you see an external move towards intervention since the new year my position is changing and i can imagine a scenario where we are where nato is asked or the british government american governors asked to enforce a no fly zone to enforce some kind of safety corridor all look which which would be would be ostensible they were protecting the rights all well. good but would push us into all sorts of areas of the middle east we don't want to be involved in because syria for example is a much bigger player in the israel arab conflict it's a much bigger country and tougher to overcome and beat militarily for took us out long to beat libya how long did it take us to syria how far do you think syria is already essentially a battlefield between iran and the west the israelis have been clear for many years that if you can pull syria out of orbit you will weaken iran which they consider to be the number one enemy of the number one menace in the neighborhood

well there's more of them be on libya's alleged torture networks highlighted on our website r.t. dot com we have details on the death of libya's former ambassador to france who died just one day after being detained under the new government that more is waiting for you at r.t. that.

but we also have more revelations on libya's torture networks on our website r.t. dot com very find out about the life of the vs former ambassador brown but i'd. all in the custody of the new government that and much more available for you at r.t. dot com. while an on a lighter note keep your eyes on the road at all times a quiet night. interrupted by that blinding explosion you see of light the grandiose this play was however just a circus overload at an electrical substation no one was hurt although the drivers involved probably won't forget that particular commute to work for some time well the latest action from the english football premier league is coming up in our two sports in about twenty five minutes let's cross to our business desk and get the latest from kareena. thank you he said hello and welcome to business here and in a surprising move for the russian stock market bank compensate minority shareholders for losses on their investments by mr putin said that the bank will use its own profits to buy back shares from people who took part in its i.p.o. fiv

we begin in libya where there is frustration at instability and the pace of change. armed militias have been accused of reprisals against get off the lists with the government unable or unwilling to stop them. -- armed militias are accused of reprisals against gaddafi loyalists and the government is unable or unwilling to stop them. >> it is a time of celration. the other night, the people took to the streets in an exuberant show of force. >> the 17th of february, 2011. this is the day that no libyan will ever forget. this is the date where everyone is born. >> we never thought this revolution was going to succeed. >> this is tripoli street in misrata penh to the city was attacked by gaddafi's forces last spring, and fighting raged for months. more than 1500 people from misrata died in the struggle and the city a merged with a steely sense of self-reliance. >> we all went to the front line to get their, a family supporting each other. if anyone died, we all care for them. if anyone was wounded, we all care for them. this city is reunited. up until now, they are still

the ground whether in libya which you go about to kosovo the k.l.a. which also said you know give us the guns give us the support and we'll do the fighting and in the style of you have the northern alliance actually turns out that these groups tend not to have as much legitimacy as they claim to be military strength as they claim. from europe's biggest economy and asia's are due to me to have germany seeking china's support for the euro zone and on foreign policy goals in the middle east this will be angola merkel's visit to china and important strategic economic partner for germany she's to hold talks with the chinese president hu jintao is clear when jiabao and tried with hu them for investment in the world also on the agenda hopes to try and change china's stance on syria and iran professor. chinese university of hong kong believes that china needs an ally to counter u.s. dominance. a few reasons overtures to be sure. but that's not the only reason you is cooperating with the states. to sanction iran and it is the lives of german chancellor that wi

and now i now i notice western media doesn't like to cover libya too much because it's just. one big mess ok with militias running around in what not ok but it's still a victory for nato when it's justified through this doctrine here i mean where does we go from here because it doesn't look like it's going to work with with syria and unfortunately given the limited reports we have coming out of syria the situation on the ground there is quite dire. well i mean the responsibility protect is. a slogan and it's a very good slogan it's a very catchy slogan and like a lot of slogans like that i'm sure it will have a future in you know the chattering that goes on amongst politicians at the security council but in actual practice it will have very little practical influence and as you said a lot of people in two thousand and eleven welcomed the intervention in libya as being all too paean action it's important to remember that in the security council resolution sanctioning action in libya there's no mention of the international community's responsibility to protect the bases for act

former senior official could have fallen victim to torture by a militia libya's former ambassador to france has died in custody twenty four hours after being detained by an armed group for some insight on this i'm joined by sue khan shandon middle east expert and journalist who joins us live from london so human rights groups say the torture and killing of detainees is an ongoing problem in libya do you think the militia responsible for it will be held to account. i don't think the militia responsible for the the likely torturing to death or miss the will be held account but there's a lot of interesting political games going on in libya if you use a step back and look at what's happening with this latest development something interesting arises why is it that mr bush is killing has been fingered at the tiny militia when we know that the permanent representative to the united nations under the gadhafi regime that's a doctor. has been tortured by a militia in tripoli has been visited by the red crescent and now it's disappeared in in the hands of another militia in tripoli so i've been

syria on the agenda ok and i think we all would agree that syria and libya are not great powers. yes well it is usually used to refer to the responsibility to protect the right to protect possibly the right to protect as it is a better way of understanding this principle because. what or to peace and surely stands for is a discretionary entitlement the security council may intervene if it determines that a particular situation constitutes a threat to international peace and security but the problem with our two p. is that it's under no obligation to do anything and essentially what ought to be has done is very very little it's created a slogan and certainly it's entered into the political discourse and many people refer to it in academia and international politics but it has changed absolutely nothing when it comes to international relations and particularly the international community's response to intrastate crises and the situation in syria i think is very obvious evidence to back that up it's a classic case of the great powers choosing when and where to intervene and the huma

need to be large because when an arms embargo was put in place on libya what ended up happening was government forces were embargoed but the opposition groups continued to receive openly arms from abroad and this is something that they don't want to see in syria and russia says it's time for the west to stop pretending like armed groups don't exist over there. it would seem logical that if there is a conflict let's not supply arms and we saw what happened in libya in an imperfect world this would have meant the following no weapons with the government much opposition pointis could get them from anyone that's what that would mean especially in our security council colleagues refuse even to admit the presence of armed groups they will not condemn them. being supplied with weapons and we will break the law contracts a longstanding relations with syria but they will start supplying even more to the position groups just like they did in libya. there's no sign of a break in deadlock just yet the arab and western backed regime change resolution calls for the. syrian president to step down

the consequences would be higher i'm not suggesting that what happened in libya is not serious enough that talking of that i was going to one of the difficulties that we are having is that the security council expedience in respect of resolutions nine hundred seventy and seventy three on libya are now vitiated the atmosphere in terms of the approach to words how to deal with the situation in syria. and you can see the full interview with the indian ambassador to the un throughout the day here on r.t. and of course also any time you like on our website at r.t. dot com. dozens of people were injured in clashes outside egypt's parliament car on choose day where protesters gathered to demand an end to military rule they were stopped from reaching the doors of the building by supporters of the muslim brotherhood which holds the majority of seats dr yousef said i'm an intern chief of the christian would turn a newspaper in egypt told me earlier that he thinks incidents like this show the future of the country is still unclear. we are on the road map to the transition. yet christians and mod