action in libya. lack of security that followed the intervention in libya lead to the death of the u.s. ambassador. christopher stephens was the first ambassador to be killed in the line of duty in more than three decades. >> the united states condemns this outrageous and shocking attack. >> it has been one year since a group of gunmen stormed the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the day after the attack, president obama pinned the perpetrator's as libbians protesting over a film. >> since our rounding, the united states has been a nation that respects all faiths. we reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, but there is no justification to this type of senseless violence, none. the world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts. >> since then independent investigations found no evidence of a protest happening at the site, and while the u.s. government had said there were no warnings, we now know ambassador stevens had requested more protection. an operation lead

and should not be held in libya and ordering libya to surrender safety duffy to the hague and that's happened on thirty first of may this year and the appeals chamber of the i.c.c. has also said that even though an appeal is ongoing they still have to deliver him and they have there's no suspense of the facts of the appeal and so they have to deliver him today you can say what we can do what we are doing is it is arguing the case in detroit the i.c.c. most interviewer will be a show trial where he faces the death penalty i know that you made it clear in some of the previous interviews that you believe that this whole legal quagmire the i.c.c. are requesting the transfer of say full islam and labor refusing to hand him over may actually damage the credibility of the international criminal court and as far as i understand in the interview with time magazine you actually said. that makes the court appear to have less but alternately isn't it what the court really ease in the eyes of the libyan authorities because they couldn't care less about all the i.c.c. warrants and orders they coul

committed outside libya so it is not reason whatsoever to to to try him outside libya and the demand of all libyans why do you think this being such a battle then as to where to try him where the president the president is not with what we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there in libya. catch all the stories we're covering and much more on our website including the u.s. drone industry has been so much there's now a shortfall in the people to guide the unmanned planes but help is at hand as i can call it just start offering degrees in drawing warfare head online to learn more about this lucrative. dot com. right to see. first for you and i would think that you're. on our reporters would. be in the. iran has freed eleven political prisoners including the prominent human rights lawyer and prize went up there in thought today she had been behind bars a since two thousand and ten after being found guilty of harming national security and given a six

committed outside libya so there's no reason whatsoever to to to try him outside libya and the demand of all libyans why do you think this being such a battle then as to where to try him where the president the president is not we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there been in libya you can catch all the stories we're covering and much more on our website including itself a shot for america's ever expanding drone program but how is that hand just start offering to reason unmanned aerial warfare and online to learn more about this lucrative but lethal career path plus. so it's a land of peers to be living up to its reputation as a nation of peace as if it has to break with centuries of tradition for compulsory military service to the referendum we have the full story at our team dot com. right. first for you and i think that you're. on our reporters would. be in the. iran's new president has said his country will never build nuclear weapons and th

what happened in libya was not the united states invading libya was a much more complicated story you may recall it was an uprising within within libya itself against a brutal dictator the united states was a very reluctant partner in this international coalition the one about trying to help indigenous forces topple a terrible dictator each of these countries had a very different path of revolution very different path of transition and very different levels of success frankly we haven't seen a lot of success may be. what is the playing out right now in syria maybe the most difficult case that we're likely to face in this in the revolution the history of revolutions that we're seeing across the arab world ok george maybe the each country has been different in their experience has been different but it seems like the outcome is always the same go ahead. yes i mean i want us to remember all of these interventions have one goal in mind which is regime change the united states seized on the situation in libya in order to effect a regime change i don't know why jason says that the united st

what happened in libya was not the united states invading libya was a much more complicated story you may recall it was an uprising within within libya itself against a brutal dictator the united states was a very reluctant partner in this international coalition the one about trying to help indigenous forces topple the terrible dictator each of these countries had a very different path of revolution very different path of transition and very different levels of success frankly we haven't seen a lot of success may be. what is the playing out right now in syria maybe the most difficult case that we're likely to face in this in the revolution the history of revolutions that we're seeing across the arab world ok george maybe the each country has been different in their experience has been different but it seems like the outcome is always the same go ahead. yes i mean i don't want us to remember all of these interventions have one goal in mind which is regime change the united states seized on the situation in libya in order to effect a regime change i don't know why jason says that the u

and eventually, there was a revolution in libya and gadhafi was overthrown, gadhafi was killed and libya today is still chaotic and nobody quite knows how things will end up in that country, but they gave up their nuclear weapons program and they gave up their chemical weapons. they handed them over to the u.n. for destruction. and that was a rare thing and that was amazing. and maybe that is about to happen again? maybe. and if it seems today like nobody is quite sure about whether something like this really could happen again for the first time in ten years, for the first time since libya did it in 2003, if people seem a little unsure about this today, it is because the idea was born and came to fruition all in one day today, and nobody saw it coming. >> syria's foreign minister said today that syria would consider placing international inspections around its chemical arsenal. do you believe it? are you skeptical? do you think it might be a stalling tactic? >> well, i think you have to take it with a grain of salt initially, but between the statements that we saw from the russians, the

see if we get that when in libya up next a special. i got some angry but polite messages after i came out in favor of the foreign adoption ban of russian children by people in the usa this is not a dig on america i think russia or any country that respects itself should export any children to anywhere at all people tell me that i'm paranoid that the decision to stop the foreign adoptions punishes the children while a massive reuters investigation called the child exchange has exposed some dark secrets about adoption of foreign children they expose it often by using the term re homing which is normally about finding new homes for animals people are basically advertising adopted children they don't want like baseball cards on e bay just found out that on just one yahoo group i child a week was offered up to the public my wonder what kind of people want to discreetly get children off the internet the thing is that in the us adopting a child from overseas is hard but transferring them to someone else later on is a breeze all you need is a

the examples that we're seeing now in libya we see in egypt are seeing also to a certain extent unity is. chaos killings. extremism in all territories george george i think you outline your earlier point if you are actually taking please take you up in your early twenty's in instability who does that serve instability serves who's interests here because you make an interesting point in your first comment well i tend to think that instability is the interest of the united states and united states has always been concerned that some kind of arab nationalist movement will become dominant in the middle east. and america has always wanted a kind of a much weaker divided arab world and i think it also serves the interests of israel which an israeli nightmare has always been that there should be a united arab world and the united arab voice speaking on behalf of the palestinians so as long as the arabs are involved in this it was essentially was over i think. the americans of this rate is a perfectly happy not to mention the americans vast military industrial complex that thrives on selling

a war crimes trial of colonel gadhafi son begins in libya as the country defies the international criminal court's demand to hand over to the hague. live from moscow this is our team with me to on monday let's get to our top story this hour. russia says it will provide to the u.n. security council with evidence allegedly implicating syrian rebel forces in last month's deadly chemical attack outside damascus the syrian government had already given the same data to u.n. inspectors working in the country but the findings were apparently not taken into account when the report was prepared artie's maria for national caught up with russia's deputy foreign minister during his visit to damascus to discuss these allegations. russia's deputy foreign minister has spent two days here in damascus to discuss the country's chemical disarmament plan according to which syria has to destroy or remove its chemical weapons by two thousand and fourteen but first to provide a full list of its chemical weapons and stockpiles by the end of this week that's according to the deal that moscow and washington agreed o

every libyan believes that he should be tried in libya none of those. none of the crimes that he's been charged with are being committed outside libya so there's no reason whatsoever to to to try him outside libya and as the demand of all libyans why do you think this being such a battle end as to where to try him where the brattle the president is not with what we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get that we in libya. coming up you are winds of change in iran the president rouhani seems to be steering his own into a more moderate future leasing the political prisoners and promising new nuclear weapons just ahead. on the german election campaign heats up in just three days to go before the boats for the young people feel left on the margins. looks to remain child stuff but still to come. how to anything beyond the sea really ease in its cold steel transfer it operates to behave i in fact not many western leaders are tr

a few years later is it that direct result of this than any of the odd thing is that it resists in libya they had actually pressured gaddafi to release the various islam is who he had imprisoned largely at the behest of the united states as part of the war on terror the extraordinary rendition program and so these very same people that the. ridley's then joined forces with the united states and nato. and sold to topple the regime and much the same is going on in syria where again the united states of saudi arabia got into bed with the muslim brotherhood there a few years before the uprising still plays ok jason it looks like intentional instability for the entire region it doesn't work out very well for american or western interests does it. thank you peter i just might add my breath is taken away a little bit by george's last comment so let me just provide an alternative explanation for what's been happening across the region for the last couple of years. rather than it being instigated by israel the united states and saudi arabia i believe what's been happening across the arab world si

see if we get that in in libya. more of global headlines for you now this hour a senior egyptian police officer has been killed in an assault on an opposition stronghold just outside thousands of police and military vehicles moved into could dust on thursday morning authorities say they're trying to drive is the most militant out of the town known snorts comes a month after the attack on a police station and left left people dead. afghanistan where a district governor of the northern province of sorrow home has defected to the town about according to officials. it was a senator for years up until two thousand and eight before being made a governor salty's the highest ranking civilian official to defect to the taliban comes as american military gear up to completely withdraw from the country by the end of next year. students of a new university other used to be free so using heavy handed tactics while video protest on the contro police reportedly shot punches on some of the protesters and shocked others don't even si

, syria is not libya. the point of the chalk talk. all of the sudden hawks in congress, are having difficult time it seems comprehending th that. libya almost 680,000 square miles, 10 times bigger than syria 75,500 square miles, population is a different story that adds complexity. libya ha 6 million spread over about two and a half states of texas could compared to more than syria 22 million people. a third have been misplaced. before the u.s. intervention, lib why was africa's -- libya was africa's largest oil pro producer, syria's economy has already collapsed. after years of civil iar war. there are drastic religious conflicts and tensions. libyans are almost all sunni. syria consists of majority of sunni arabs but the government is run by shia islam. also kurds and arabs and christians and drews, in libya, u.s. recognized one rebel group, in syria this is right now as president seeks authority to strike syria it is unclear how many rebel groups there are in syria. listen to this. some expert say that

committed in libya and every libyan believes that he should be tried in libya none of the none of the crimes that he's been charged with are being committed outside so there's no reason whatsoever. to try him outside libya and the demand of all the why do you think there's been such a battle then as to where to try him why the brattle brother is not we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there in libya you can get a unique insight into the build up to that trial and interview show worlds apart works on a boycott talks to john jones the i.c.c. appointed lawyer representing him you can see the full episode in just over to too us. you can catch more stories we're covering on much more on our website including a stone offering the shortage for america's drone program the hope is a hand this college is again offering degrees in unmanned aerial warfare and online to learn more about this lucrative but the fool career path plus. switzerland has to be livin

with are committed outside libya so there's no reason whatsoever. to try him outside libya and the demand of all the libyans why do you think this being such a bad. try him why the president the president is not we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there in libya and catch all the stories we're covering and much more on our website including the u.s. drone industry has been so much that there is now a shortfall in people to the unmanned planes but health is at hand as american colleges start offering degrees in drone warfare head online to learn more about this lucrative but he still through we have that's. switzerland appears to be living up to its reputation as a nation of peace as it prepares to break with centuries of tradition and put compulsory military service to a referendum we have a full story and r.t. dot com. right to see. first for you and i think that your. on our reporters will. be in the. iran ha

back to the middle twenty eleven there may be reasons for this which we can debate in the context of libya but just look at the record we have not had any serious willingness to grapple with the issues by the security council in particular the russians role in it since the middle of twenty eleven forget about military action that has not been on the table until very very recently where have been the security council condemnations where have been the security council willingness to apply sanctions where has been the security council willingness to send the perpetrators i think it's. all there but it's been impossible to get any consensus on the security but it gives me a reason why there are many possible answers is because there is a lot of disagreement not only on the course of action but also on the very promise of that war and who is fighting and that's war who are the victims who are in that war you can know that you know all those major disagreements and claiming that they and the u.n. security council was doing nothing i think is a bit of a stretch perhaps you can tell me i mean why

to be sure of what's going on in libya because.

human rights watch support and decided to do something in iraq and afghanistan in libya in mali as a result wait wait don't like to be human rights situation in all those countries and i didn't i don't understand that you're dependent on your for the latest and i understand you're dependent on your briefers but you should please ask your friends is the battleground. for the. human rights watch never supported the invasion of iraq we never supported the invasion of afghanistan in fact if you look at the two thousand and four human rights watch world report the entire lead essay was devoted to why bush's intervention in iraq was not a humanitarian intervention so i don't know where you get these ideas that human rights watch the words mr olson if you were going to say and indeed if you would i read what you say on there and create a lot of. interaction and before out from that intervention i don't understand why do you think these time around you should support the in not their intervention they don't get another arab. as i said human rights watch has not taken a position for or agains

what happened in libya was not the united states invading libya was a much more complicated story you may recall it was an uprising within within libya itself against a brutal dictator the united states was a very reluctant partner in this international coalition the one about trying to help indigenous forces topple the terrible dictator each of these countries had a very different path of revolution very different path of transition and very different levels of success frankly we haven't seen a lot of success may be. what is the playing out right now in syria maybe the most difficult case that we're likely to face in this in the revolution the history of revolutions that we're seeing across the arab world ok george maybe each country has been different in their experience has been different but it seems like the outcome is always the same go ahead. yes i mean what else to remember all of these interventions have one goal in mind which is regime change the united states seized on the situation in libya in order to effect a regime change i don't know why jason says that united states w

as far as libya is concerned, that's political.overed up the fact that it was a decided terrorist attack and therefore dragged their feet in response that it would be critically important. the longer you wait, the more difficult it makes your options. we can still act there and send a strong signal. but, instead, we're looking at syria and punting to congress and handing sluxs to putin. . >> scott, in terms of the infiltration of special operators into benghazi or into militia head quarters, don't we have libya nationals that we could con tratract this operati too? but couldn't we get libyans or someone who looks like libyans to carry out an almost law enforcement snatch and grab or, indeed. >> i don't want to specialize so much on covert operations in so far as what we can and can't do. we certainly can support our libyan counter parts to bring folks to justice. we should have done so a long time ago. >> is retrobugs, scott, is that a valid military goal? is that a valid, you know, decisive military action, retrobugs, punitive act

what you had in libya was massive a population pretty united against a very small pretty corrupt elite around the gadhafi. in syria you've got a very much more complicated situation it is multi sect multi religious so you've got the alawite sheer the christians on one side and the sunni on the other side but it's even more complicated than that as well you know you've also got different. interests in that country including historically that of france after the carve up of the middle east at the end of the first world war they got. what we came to syria and you've also got russia which has seems to me perfectly legitimate interests in its naval base and as a traditional ally of syria so you've got that complexity and you've got the neighbors turkey on one side and iran on the other both of which have separate but the gist of it interests and it's for this reason that about the others that we feel not that we want to see it through the russians are as pretty as our eyes but we need to examine the strategy through the eyes of what is best for the people of that benighted country and the n

seriously econ do any of that in libya these days and again back in again after it's good office times he had some incentives to at please go along with something that the west and human rights community were demanding the militia on the ground in libya these days have absolutely no incentive to do that and i wonder what would stop the situation developing in taking the same scenario in syria if those if those strikes that the united states is proposing are carried out of an event assad is indeed eliminated as the how devastated he's governing structure is limited do you think that's what ultimately improve the human rights situation on the ground what will two points i mean first of all i don't think dick cheney ship is the worst possible scenario. it's about women but the worst situation is something like what you have in syria today where you have a series of militias you know nobody controls the terror of the country different parts of the country controlled by different factions one of those factions happens to be the government but you have a mass killing going on so this is not

well i my own view libya is concerned is that it was right for france united kingdom the united states and others to take the action that we did in libya i understand that it's a cause of very great concern in russia that the russian government felt that they were blindsided in the security council but that. it's not a view we accept it is also the case that there was a very clear mandate from the security council which russia had endorsed in favor of that military action and i think that libya is a better place than it was before and will become an even better place so i don't think it's a parallel with libya but what you had in libya was a mass of the population pretty united against a very small pretty corrupt elite around the gadhafi. in syria you've got a very much more complicated situation it is a multi sect multi religious so you've got the alawite the shia the christians on one side and the sunni on the other side but it's even more complicated than that as well you know you've also got different. interests in that country including historically that of france after the carve

take a wait-and-see attitude in libya, things seem to be quite messy. the argument over jobs, corruption, security at the ports in eastern and western libya, and we don't have a well functioning government. i think oil prices are going to remain elevated peer over the next couple weeks and await the outcome of strikes against syria and any ramifications. dagen: gas price is going to the cheaper winter blends shortly, that is good news for drivers in this country. >> in spite of the high oil prices there's a little bit of good news for the consumer because gasoline prices are going to remain steady over the next couple weeks and begin

four americans are dead from libya. the u.s. ambassador and real americans, heroes, nobody is dead in syria that's american and we'll go to war? this is ludicrous. the comparison is stupid. >> so do you call on the president then to be even handed if he's going to have a muscular approach, same in the other? >> we're calling on the president to say what he was doing and why certain things occurred. do you know why the ambassador was in benghazi? >> hillary clinton directed him -- >> hillary clinton, that's not the information -- >> of course not. you got false information. the arb report that was supposed to be so great had a false statement. it said the ambassador went there independently of washington. chris stevens went there because the day he was sworn in hillary clinton directed him to make it a permanent out post and the first few months he couldn't do it because he had other commitments and he had to do it in september because he had to ask for money in the year. so he went to benghazi at hilary's direction. >> you remem

as far as libya is concerned, that's political.overed up the fact that it was a decided terrorist attack and therefore dragged their feet in response that it would be critically important. the longer you wait, the more difficult it makes your options. we can still act there and send a strong signal. but, instead, we're looking at syria and punting to congress and handing sluxs to putin. . >> scott, in terms of the infiltration of special operators into benghazi or into militia head quarters, don't we have libya nationals that we could con tratract this operati too? but couldn't we get libyans or someone who looks like libyans to carry out an almost law enforcement snatch and grab or, indeed. >> i don't want to specialize so much on covert operations in so far as what we can and can't do. we certainly can support our libyan counter parts to bring folks to justice. we should have done so a long time ago. >> is retrobugs, scott, is that a valid military goal? is that a valid, you know, decisive military action, retrobugs, punitive act

consulate in benghazi, libya, last year. christopher stevens, whose picture is on your screen, a bay area native, and 3 others were ximed joshua bush reports. >> reporter: a sell brake brace kicked off the keynote meeting. it will be called the chris stevens memorial library. several members of the am bass boar's family were on hand for the honor nors. >> he was in the peace corps and was in iraq, learned some more languages, and then after that, he went to law school and practiced law a bit, and did foreign service. >> family friends said the country lost one of its best and brightest when he was killed in gwen gay say, libya. >> he was dedicated to that. >> students say his legacy will live on. >> i think it's great to reck noise the cloabl community as an alumni of piedmont and ambassador to libya. >> reporter: an endowment was set up at cal. >>> oakland police say they've caught a break in the fatal shooting of alicia carra -- ine, who was shot during a sleepover at a friend's home. 3 people in the home were also hurt. t

dictator moammar gadhafi has his war crimes trial adjourned until december it will still take place in libya despite requests by the international criminal court to ship him to the hague. welcome you watching r.t. with may. now the civil war that's devastating syria for more than two years has changed extensively from the initial conflict rebel forces and the al qaeda linked factions that once fought side by side in the n.t. said pushing pitted against each other in violent battles some reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements appear to be gaining ground. well in the most recent incident they seized the strategic town of as need be to border the free syrian army rebels jihadi stormed the area on wednesday in some of the heaviest fighting between the two factions yet the time sits on a key rebel weapons supply route raising fears that arms could fall into the hands of islamic militants or sold by al-qaeda linked extremists have become a daily concern for syria's kurdish minority as well although the kurds managed to drive them out of a village earlier this week more than tw

libyan dictator moammar gadhafi has his crimes trial adjourned until december to still take place in libya despite requests from international criminal court and shipping to the hague. and more this is a not a civil war that stated syria more than two years has changed beyond recognition from the initial conflict rebel forces and al qaeda linked factions that once fought side by side in the bush now pitted against each other in violent battles reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements appear to be gaining ground. in my stove recent incident they seized the strategic town of azaz not the turkish border ousting the free syrian army rebels that jihad this storm the area on wednesday and some of the most severe fighting between the two factions yet its own sits on a cane rebel weapons supply route to easing phase of arms could fall into the hands of is the most militant assaults by extremists become a daily headache for syria's this minority as well. the kurds managed to drive them out of an agenda this week twenty people have fought and died in the clash both sides some anal

. >> reporter: libya sa different example. international inspectors say they got rid of their chemical weapons only to find out after the fall of gahdafi they hadn't. it will take years but they say they will know much sooner it it's likely to happen. >> this is the process that will take a certain amount of time. but it needs to be credible it needs to be verifyable and we will work with our allies and partners to test whether or not that can be achieved. >>> the one thing the obama administration has avoided saying is how much time they are being to give the diplomacy. we can give a much better idea of possible u.s. time frame. al jazeera, washington. >> well, law is a form secretary of state. she led the disarmament efforts in libya during her time with state department. she joins us now from washington it' good to see you paula. >> thank you, john. >> can you tell me why it didn't work in libya? >> well, the elimination of the wmd did work. nation building following that may have ban problem but in terms of the elimination