about libya. secretary clinton, was sidney blumenthal your primary policy adviser or your primary intelligence officer? >> no, of course not. >> was he the primary source of information that you were receiving on libya? >> no, absolutely not. >> can you tell us then, who were you receiving information from, and in what form? because there's been a particular emphasis on e-mail communication and e-mail communication only. >> as i testified earlier, i did not primarily conduct business on e-mail with officials in our government. and i think the e-mails that have been produced thus far demonstrate that as well. as i said, i got intelligence briefings from the intelligence community. i had a very experienced group of senior diplomats who knew quite a bit about libya. deputy secretary bill burns had been our nation's top diplomat, who actually had negotiated with qaddafi. prior to the entering in by the united states to support our european allies and arab partners, i sent a team to meet with represent

, knows anything about libya, or has business interests in libya, all of which would be important if you were going to determine the credibility which i think is why you probably took his information off of what you sent to the white house . ? one e-mail he wrote this. "tyler knows him well and says he's a mean vicious little -- i'm not going to say the word but he did. this is an e-mail from blumenthal to you about the president and secretary of defense. here's another one about president's national security advisor. frankly, tom donelan's babbling rhetoric about narratives on a phone briefing of reporters on march 10 has inspired derision among foreign policy analysts here and abroad. and here's another from what you say is your old friend sidney blumenthal. this is a quote from him. "i would say obama" and by the way he left the president part out. "i would say obama appears to be intent on seizing defeat from the jaws of victory. he and his political cronies in the white house and chicago are to say the least unenthusiastic about regime change in libya. obama's lukewarm and self-

there's no real control of libya's borders. as awash with guns, people are coming in, remember, from europe. >> and 2.4 million in humanitarian need because of the upheaval people have seen since the removal of muammar gaddafi. it's a last chance for the international community. they are saying the options were not limitless, perfection not an option. considering it took a year to come to this point, it would be disastrous if the deal didn't stick. >> absolutely. i do think there are real, real changes facing this deal. remember, a week ago the libyan parties here in new york. this deal was supposed to happen in new york during the u.n. general assembly, with figures like the u.s. secretary of state john kerry present. they couldn't come up with a deal then. that's why it was extended and they have gone back to morocco, and it's likely that there'll be a ceremony taking place. the international community keen to get progress in libya, where in other parts of the middle east it's making no diplomatic protests. the international

. >> august 17th you received a memo on the deteriorating security in libya. the same day you were asked to give $20 million to the libya government to beef up security, your department issued a warning, telling american citizens to get out of libya and not to travel there. i'm wondering why with all of this in front of you, the secretary of state, why did it not occur to you to pick up the phone and call your friend? >> we knew what he was asking for, those requests went to the security professionals. and i would only add with respect to the travel warning we issue travel warnings for many, many places in the world. they are really aimed at informing american business travelers, tourists about conditions they might face if they go to countries. they are not a criteria for determining whether we keep or end a diplomatic presence. >> well, there we have the secretary's answer to that query. but everyone says they are trying to get to the truth. i'm wondering what is the truth of the hearings? >> depends on the eye of the beholder. one thing that may not help se

there were particular concerns about eastern libya. >> did you read the piece that was libya, al-qaeda establishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that that was, certainly, among the information provided to me. >> there was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that africom wrote, al-qaeda expands in libya. were you familiar with that? >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of the concerns we all had about the setting up of jihadist training camps and other activities in libya, particularly in eastern libya. >> you were briefed, and i think the cia between january and september of 2012, had over 4500 pages of intelligence. of intelligence, and i know you had a specific division, i guess of the state department under you that was called intelligence and research. did think keep you up to speed on all these 400 cables or, different things that they were getting? did they keep you up to speed of that, were you aware of them? >> congressman, i can't speak to specific reports but i can certainly agree with you that i was briefed and awa

and there were particular concerns about eastern libya. >> did you read the peace that was libya, al qaeda establishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that was certainly among the information provided to me. >> it was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that was written, al qaeda expands in libya, were you familiar with that. >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of these setting up of camps in libya, particularly eastern libya. >> you were briefed, and i think the cia between january and september of 2012 had over 4,500 pages of intelligence. were you aware of how many pages of intelligence -- and i know you had a specific division i guess of the state department under you that was called intelligence and research. did they keep you up to speed on all these 400 cables or different things that they were getting? did they keep you up to speed on that? that you were aware of them? >> congressman, i can't speak to specific reports, but i can certainly agree with you that i was briefed and aware of the increasingly dangerous upsur

had never been to libya. had no expertise in libya. was critical of the president and others that you worked with. shared polling data with you on the intervention in libya. gave you political advice on how to take credit for libya. all the while working for the clinton foundation and some pseudo news entities. madam secretary, he had unfettered access to you. he used that access at least on one occasion to ask you to intervene on behalf of a business venture. do you recall that? >> you know, mr. chairman, if you don't have any friends who say unkind things privately, i congratulate you. but from my perspective, i don't -- >> i'd like to think i'd correct them. >> -- i don't know what this line of questioning does to help us get to the bottom of the deaths of four americans -- >> i'd be happy to tell -- >> -- to understand better -- >> i'd be happy to tell you, madam secretary -- >> -- i want to reiterate what i said to sanchez. these were originally unsolicited. you just said perhaps the main if not the exclusive author was a former i

about libya. wanted to make that country work. now, it has proven very, very difficult. we want to go back to moammar gadhafi in charge, i don't think so, to make a policy point as long as i have a few minutes. it's interesting to juxtapose libya with syria. because just as many of my republican colleagues are ripping apart the obama administration and all those involved for choosing to remove gadhafi, they are ripping apart the obama administration, all the current officials, for choosing not to get involved in syria. what that points up, frankly, is the difficulty of the job that you had. and i thank you for taking it. i'm not sure i would be so bold. it is a very, very dangerous world. bad things are going to happen. and what we are witnessing today is if bad things happen, you know, you will be dragged out over months and months and months in this partisan atmosphere and that is very, very unfortunate. it needed to be investigated, you know, 9/11, we didn't investigate 9/11, you know, 9/11/200

the geography of libya. think most people really realize. i want to share with you that we know from my last round that chris stephens went into benghazi in april of 2011. i want to talk to you about what happened the rest of that year. just because there was a lot going on i thought it was helpful to have this map. by mid-july our government formally recognized the tnc as the official government of libya replacing the government. tnc was placed in benghazi at that time. in august, after the kadafi government fell, kadafi left tripoli and he went into hiding. once that happened the tnc moved their benghazi headquarters over to tripoli. in september we reopened our embassy in tripoli and ambassador crest returned. does it sound like an accurate summary of the summer of 2011? >> it does sound accurate except i'm not sure exactly the duration of ambassador stephen's presence in benghazi during the months. >> that leads to my next question. what was your plan for the mission in the fall of 2011 and going forward

the truth about why we were in libya. the truth about what we were doing fwh ldo ing in libya. the truth about the escalate in in libya. the truth about request for additional personnel. the truth about requests for additional equipment. the truth about where and why our military was positioned as it was on the anniversary of 9/11. the truth about what was happening and being discussed in washington while our people were under attack. the truth about what led to the attacks and the truth about what our government told the american people after the attacks. why were there so many requests for more security personnel and equipment and why were those requests denied in washington? why did the state department compound and facility not even come close to meeting proper security specifications? what policies were we pursuing in libya that required a physical presence? who in washington was aware of the escalating violence? what precautions, if any, were taken on the anniversary of 9/11? what happened in washington after the first attack? and what was our response to that attack? wha

libya and benghazi in 2012.y do the records show your drop in interest, it was noticed by your own staff. i say this because i want to point you to an e-mail in early february 2012 between two staffers at your libya desk that says, "you did not know whether we still had a pregnant -- presence in benghazi. they can be found at tab 31. said, one writes to another about an encounter that she had with you, "also the secretary asked last week if we still have a presence in benghazi. i think she would be upset to hear yes, we do, but because we do not have enough security they this isockdown." i say very troubling to me because it raises several issues that i would like to ask you about. , am struck by the first part "the secretary asked last week if we still have a presence in benghazi." you pointed out to ms. brooks based upon the e-mail stacks that you engaged in a lot of conversations and briefings, so i am assuming this conversation with this member of your staff took place in one of those briefings. but then she

libya was not egypt or tunisia. libya had oil pumping every day. but then it sort of descended into this real mess. i mean, i'm telling you inside libya there's no way you're going to figure this lockerbie thing out. the only place that i will advise anyone investigating this is to go through the people from the qaddafi regime who fled the country. a lot of them left. >> dornstein: libya was no longer where i was likely to find the men i was looking for. i couldn't pick up any trace of the suspected bomb expert, abu agela. but i heard rumors that another of the men on my list, someone with a record of supplying explosives to terrorists, had fled the country, maybe to cairo. but his trail had gone cold too. there was one major figure on my list who definitely fled the country. and not long after my last trip into libya, he was finally captured and brought back for trial. >> it was a humbling return home for abdullah al senussi, once one of the most feared people in the country now surrounded by libyans chanting for justice and revenge. senussi is al

the geography of libya. and as we've talked about these various communities, i don't think most people really realized. so i want to share with you that we know from my last round that chris stevens went into benghazi in april of 2011. i want to talk to you about what happened the rest of that year. just because there was a lot going on, i thought it would be helpful to have this map. so by mid-july, our government formally recognized the tnc as the official government of libya replacing the gadhafi regime. tnc was replaced in benghazi at that time. then in august after the gadhafi government fell, gadhafi went over into -- he left tripoli, where gadhafi had been headquartered and he went into hiding in sirte. once that happened the tnc moved their benghazi headquarter over to tripoli. then in september we reopened our embassy in tripoli and ambassador kretz returned. he'd been evacuated previously. does that sound like an accurate summary of the summer of 2011? >> it does sound accurate except i'm not sure

heb ahead, a look at libya three years after this attack. prefuse to provide more aid. >> retired four star general. this testimony general keene, is the situation in benghazi was bad for a longxchgutime. why does that matter when we're asking the question, why wasn't there more security? >> because you start with the policy failure first. the policy failures, we did not support a moderately elected islamic regime that was asking for us, the united states to help them with security to disarm the radicals that they knew were trying to undermine the western support that this new regime has. that's the major issue. president obama admitted that. the only policy failure i heard them admit is this one i'm talking about. the security situation deteriorated for well over a year. as a testimony pointed out with two attacks on the consulate itself and the ambassador trying to assassinate. this is ever increasing dangerous situation. the operational failure here is certainly not taking the proper security measures given all the information we had of a

the piece that was libya, al qaeda establishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that that was certainly among the information provided to me. >> there was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that al qaeda expands in libya. were you familiar with that? >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of the concerns we all had about the setting up of jihadist training camps and other activities in libya, particularly in eastern libya. >> you were briefed and i think the cia between january and september of 2012 had over 4500 pages of intelligence. were you aware of how many pages of intelligence and i know you had a specific division, i guess, of the state department under you that was called intelligence and research. did they keep you up to speed on all these 400 cables or different things that they were getting? did they keep you up to speed on that that you were aware of them? >> congressman, i can't speak to specific reports but i can certainly agree with you that i was briefed and aware of th

about libya. and quite frankly, secretary clinton, it appears that you were a large cause of that uncertainty. and we have seen all the day-to-day updates and concern early in 2011. i heard what you said to my colleague mrs. brooks. and i'll get to that in a minute. but showing that libya, and for that matter benghazi, belonged to you in 2011. it was yours, so to speak. from your own records that we have, we saw a drop in your interest in libya and benghazi in 2012. not only do the records show your drop in interest in benghazi, it was even noticed by your own staff. i want to point this out to you -- i say this i want to point you to an e-mail in early february 2012 between two staffers at your libya desk that says you didn't know whether we still even had a presence in benghazi. let's not use my words. let's use theirs. this can be found at tab 31. the e-mail says -- it dated february 9, 2012. one writes to the other about annen can counter she had with you. "the secretary also asked last week i

jay carney says no pre-planned attack and the experts in libya said it was -- >> the experts in libya were among the experts looking at this and analyzing it. we went on the isz basis of the intelligence community and they were scrambling to get the information they could. the intelligence unt kmoo assessment served as basis for what ambassador rice said when she appeared on the sunday show. on september 18 when the video footage arrived from the security cameras the deputy cia director has testified it was not until september 18 when the cia received the libyan government's assessment of video footage that showed the front of the facility with no sign of protesters that it became clear we needed to revisit our analysis and then after they looked at the video footage and fbi reporting from interviews of personnel on the ground in benghazi during the attacks the cia changed its assessment. and that was explained thoroughly in the bipartisan report issued on the committee on intelligence which did a very thorough job. >> i think we will take a quick ten-minute break. two colleagues have

the truth why we were in libya. the truth about what we were doing in libya. the truth about the escalating violence in libya before we were attacked and these four men were killed. the truth about requests for additional security. the truth about requests for additional personnel. the truth about requests for additional equipment. the truth about where and why our military was positioned as it was on the anniversary of 9/11. the truth about what was happening and being discussed in washington while our people were unattack. the truth about what led to the attacks and the truth about what our government told the american people after the attacks. why were there so many requests for more security personnel and equipment and why were those requests denied in washington? why did the state department compound and facility not even come close to meeting proper security specifications? what policies were we were pursuing in libya that required a physical presence despite escalating violence? who in washington was aware of the escalating violence? what precautions we

>>> a possible end to the conflict in libya, the u.n. announces both sides agreed to a unity government >>> hello, i'm darren jordan in doha. russia denies cruise missiles fired at syria fell short and landed in iran >>> stabbing attacks in jerusalem and tel aviv heighten tensions in israel and the occupied territories. >> plus, i'll tell you why the rare oil from the trees is big business for poachers and how it affects indigenous communities that depend on the forest >>> rival factions in libya agreed to form a unity government in a bid to form a cost which tore the country apart. the deal brings together libya's two rival parliament. the first is the general national congress, the g.m. c operates out of tripoli. it came to power when an alliance of former rebels took over the capital last year. the group drove out the internationally recognised government which operates from the eastern city of tobruk. it is recognised by the u.n. and are ab -- arab league. our diplomatic editor james bays reports from u.n. >> there were smiles when a

i think there is a debate to be had as we were talking about libya policy and what happened in libya and whether the administration's policy was right or wrong. but to sort of say that everything she did including giving sydney blumenthal her e-mail address shows a lack of her overall judgment. it seems to be kind of a bridge too far. >> we've had about five hours of testimony so far, jeffrey toobin, five hours of q and a with hillary clinton. what have you learned as far as what happened that tragic day in benghazi? what have you learned today that you didn't know? >> not a lot. i do think gloria was right. there was that very dramatic moment in the last hour or so when hillary clinton talked about what it was like in washington as they tried to figure out what actually had gone on and whether their colleagues had survived. i thought the last exchange with the congressman from illinois, roksam, was -- i thought of kevin mccarthy out there somewhere thinking, well, you know, i was right all along. because this was a purely political attack on hillary clinton. which may be an appropri

my two deputies went to libya. other officials in the state department went to libya. there was a constant continuing effort that i led to try to see what we could do to help. one of the problems we face suicide that the libyans did not really feel that they could welcome a peacekeeping mission. they couldn't welcome foreign troops to their soil. that made it really difficult, and it didn't have to be american troops. it could have been troops from anywhere in the world under a u.n. mandate that might have helped them begin to secure their country. >> secretary clinton, if i may, i hear what you are saying, but this e-mail says something very, very different. >> i can't speak to that. i can just tell you what i was doing, and i was doing a lot. >> sure. this was your staff, and i -- >> if they had this conversation with you, why they would make it up, but i want to move on. this e-mail snoo i'm sorry. i have no recollection of and no knowledge of. >> please turn to tab 31. it's right here. >> i trust that you have read it, but i also tell you that we had a presence in

bollier did remember another trip to libya that year.e told the fbi that he was in tripoli that december, just before what turned out to e a major operation: lockerbie. he said he ended up at abdel basset al megrahi's office just two nights before the bombing. it was here, he said, that he witnessed a meeting. >> i'll show you. >> dornstein: bollier still recalled that night, and even drew me the layout of megrahi's office. >> here, i think, was the room of abdel basset with doors, and they have the meeting here. >> dornstein: but what was this meeting at the office of the man later convicted for the bombing? this scene here that you just sketched, with the meeting and waiting for megrahi on that evening so close to lockerbie... >> all this, yeah. >> dornstein: the prosecution at the trial, they made this sound like the libyans were planning lockerbie in this room here right across from you that night. >> they say this, yes. >> dornstein: do you think that's what was going on in there? >> no, no. >> dornstein: the only problem with bolli

and there were particular concerns about eastern libya. >> did you read the peace that was libya, alstablishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that was certainly among the information provided to me. >> it was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that was written, al qaeda expands in libya, were you familiar with that. >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of these setting up of camps in libya, particularly eastern libya. >> you were briefed, and i think the cia between january and september of 2012 had over 4,500 pages

, knows anything about libya, or has business interests in libya, all of which would be important if you were going to determine the credibility which i think is why you probably took his information off of what you sent to the white house . ? one e-mail he wrote this. "tyler knows him well and says he's a mean vicious little -- i'm not going to say the word but he did. this is an e-mail from blumenthal to you about the president and secretary of defense. here's another one about president's national security advisor. frankly, tom donelan's babbling rhetoric about narratives on a phone briefing of reporters on march 10 has inspired derision among foreign policy analysts here and abroad. and here's another from what you say is your old friend sidney blumenthal. this is a quote from him. "i would say obama" and by the way he left the president part out. "i would say obama appears to be intent on seizing defeat from the jaws of victory. he and his political cronies in the white house and chicago are to say the least unenthusiastic about regime change in libya. obama's lukewarm and self-

in libya. he was well aware of it. that if he needed to get in touch with her he knew who to get in touch with her about when asked did he have your personal email address? no. did he have any phone conversations with you. she couldn't recall one. and so what's been noted by republicans is that there were hundreds of emails exchanges between her friend sidney blumenthal and her but the requests from the ambassador, the u.s. ambassador to libya asking for more security for libya, she says never reached her desk. and so expect the republicans to talk more about that in the coming days and perhaps in the hours ahead, greta. >> mike, thank you. >> sure. >> and sparks have been flying between former secretary of state hillary clinton and ohio congressman jim jordan. jordan going after secretary clinton about her initial claim that protests sparked by a video turned deadly in benghazi. >> i want to show you a few things here. you are looking at an email sent to your family here is what you said at 11

my two deputies went to libya. other officials in the state department went to libya. so there was a constant, continuing effort that i led to try to see what we could do to help. one of the problems we faced is that the libyans did not really feel that welcome a peace-keeping mission. they couldn't welcome foreign troops to their soil. that made it really difficult. and it didn't have to be american troops. it could have been troops from anywhere in the world under a u.n. mandate that might have helped them begin to secure their country. >> secretary clinton, i hear what you're saying, but this e-mail says something very different i can't speak to that. i can just tell you what i was doing, and i was doing a lot. >> this was your staff. if they had this conversation with you, why would they make it up? but i want to move on. but this e-mail, you know, makes me wonder about the vision for benghazi because they're asking if you -- they're saying you asked if we still had a presence. but, you know, you look at the second part of the e-mail, "and i think she would be upse

was libya, al-qaeda establishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that that was, certainly, among the information provided to me. >> there was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that africom wrote, al-qaeda expands in libya. were you familiar with that? >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of the concerns we all had about the setting up of jihadist training camps and other activities in libya, particularly in eastern libya. >> you were briefed, and i think the cia between january and september of 2012, had over 4500 pages of intelligence.

if libya unraveled, you had a lot to lose. based on the victory lap, based on the sunday shows, and based on the favorable accolades that were coming, if it went the wrong direction, it would be on you, and if it was stable and it was the right direction, you were the beneficiary of that. so the question is, how is it possible that these urgent requests that came in, how did they break through to the levels of the inner circle, the people here today, the people that served you. how did those two requests from two ambassadors, cuts and stevens, those that came in all of 2012, how is it possible that those didn't break through and you told us that that wasn't your job, basically. you said i'm not responsible, but here's my theory. here's what i think was going on, to admit that you needed more security was to admit that there was a deteriorating situation, and it didn't fit your narrative of a successful foreign policy. where did i get that wrong? >> congressman, look, we knew that libya's transition from the brutal dictatorship

the libya policy. you were the one that drove it. it was your baby. it was an attempt to use smart power and that's what you tried to do, isn't that right? >> it certainly was something that i came to believe was in the interests of the united states to join with our nato allies and our arab partners in doing. the decision, as all decisions in any administration, was made by the president. so, the president deserves the historic credit. what role i played, i'm very grateful to have had that chance, and i'm, you know, very convinced that it was the right thing to do. >> well, you just recited the clinton doctrine to us, and let me tell you what i think the clinton doctrine is. i think it's where an opportunity is seized to turn progress in libya into a political win for hillary rodham clinton and at the precise moment when things look good, take a victory lap, like on all the sunday shows three times that year before gadhafi was killed, and then turn your attention to other things. i yield back. >> well

presence in libya to begin with.he real lessons we can learn about what took place on september 11, 2012, don't start and end on that day. we will be back in a minute. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in 2012, then congressman dennis kucinich, democrat from ohio, spoke at a house committee hearing a month after the attack on the u.s. consulate and cia annex in benghazi. he stated, "the security situation did not happen overnight because of a decision made by someone at the state department." he went on to criticize u.s. policy in libya. >> we owe to the diplomatic corps who serves our nation to start at the beginning, and that is what i shall do. the security threats in libya, including the unchecked extremist groups are armed to the teeth, exist because our nation's bird on a civil war, destroying the security and stability of libya. , libyadefends gaddafi was not in a meltdown before the war. in 2003, gaddafi reconciled with committed the of n

, knows anything about libya, or has business interests in libya, all of which would be important if you were going to determine the credibility which i think is why you probably took his information off of what you sent to the white house . ? one e-mail he wrote this. "tyler knows him well and says he's a mean vicious little -- i'm not going to say the word but he did. this is an e-mail from blumenthal to you about the president and secretary of defense. here's another one about president's national security advisor. frankly, tom donelan's babbling rhetoric about narratives on a phone briefing of reporters on march 10 has inspired derision among foreign policy analysts here and abroad. and here's another from what you say is your old friend sidney blumenthal. this is a quote from him. "i would say obama" and by the way he left the president part out. "i would say obama appears to be intent on seizing defeat from the jaws of victory. he and his political cronies in the white house and chicago are to say the least unenthusiastic about regime change in libya. obama's lukewarm and self-

the truth about why we were in libya. the truth about what we were doing in libya.escalating violence in libya before we were attacked and these four men were killed. the truth about requests for additional security. the truth about requests for additional personnel. the truth about requests for additional equipment. the truth about where and why our military was positioned as it was on the anniversary of 9/11. the truth about what was happening and being discussed in washington while our people were under attack. the truth about what led to the attacks and the truth about what our government told the american people after the attacks. why were there so many requests for more security personnel and k equipment and why were those requests denied in washington? why did the state department, compound and facility, not even come close to meeting proper security specifications. what policies were we pursuing in libya required a physical presence in spite of the escalating violence? who in washington was aware of the escalating violence? what precautions if any were taken

jay carney says there is no preplanned attack and experts in libya -- >> the experts in libya were among the experts looking at this and analyzing it. we went on the basis of the intelligence community and they were scrambling to get all the information that they could and yes, the intelligence community assessment served as the basis for what ambassador rice said when she appeared on the sunday show, and on september 18th, when the video footage arrived from the security cameras, the deputy cia director has testified it was not until september 18th when the cia received the libyan government's assessment video footage that showed the front of the facility with no sign of protesters that it became clear we needed to revisit our analysis and then after they looked at the video footage and fbi reporting from interviews of personnel on the ground in benghazi during the attacks, the cia changed its assessment and that was explained thoroughly in the bipartisan report issued by the house permanent select committee on intelligence which did a very thorough job, congressman. >> gentleman yields

there were legitimate questions that the democrats have raised about libya policy, about security, and they didn't raise it today. they were there to support her and defend her, and republicans i think missed the opportunities to kind of hone in on some details, and instead, decided to kind of make political points with her, were you caring enough? right. did you, how long did it take you to talk to the families? when did you go home at night after the attack? i think that it doesn't serve the congress well at all. >> well, especially when, because of some of the questioning, you know, there was a little bit of infighting and talking amongst the members of the committee, itself. >> and hillary clinton just sat there and fighting among each other with a look of, please, can somebody turn channel, please. >> and so, that is the explanation of the faces we have seen. and now, this is fresh off of anderson's show, and this is what happened ten hours into the day and exchange we lie ja cummings and hillary clinton. >> so i don't know what we want from you. do we want to badger you over and

my two deputies, tom and bill went to libya. other officials in the state department went to libya. there was a constant continuing effort that i led to try to see what we could do to help. now, one of the problems we face is that the libyans did not really feel that they could welcome a peacekeeping mission. they couldn't welcome foreign troops to their soil. that made it really difficult. it could have been troops from anywhere in the world under a u.n. mandate that might have helped them begin to secure their country. mrs. roby: secretary clinton, i may, i hear what you're saying. but this email -- secretary clinton: i can't speak to that. can i tell you what i was doing. mrs. roby: this is your staff. if they had this conversation with you why they would make it up. i want to move on. this seem -- this email makes me wonder about the vision for benghazi because they are asking -- you're saying that you asked if we still had a presence, but if you -- we look at the second part of the email, quote, and i think she would be upset to hear yes, we do. secretary clinton: i'm sorry. i

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policy towards libya. in part two of patricia sabga's interview with slaughter, she asked whether the policy under hillary clinton was a failure. >> libya, you were a vocal advocate of military intervention. it's a launchpad for refugees, that it's fuelling the refugee crisis in europe. were you wrong? >> i don't think i was wrong. but - here is why i don't think i was wrong. at the time it looked like benghazi's forces were going to overrun and go door to door hunting down muammar gaddafi's opponents. we thought it would be a massacre of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. to authorise intervention i do not thing was the wrong decision. turning that into essentially an n.a.t.o. effort to overthrow glad, i think, is something we - was not intended, did evolve, was the wrong thing. we were flooding the zone with guns, and you could see that. i wrote a piece saying we should cut a deal with muammar gaddafi now. the longer this goes on, the more likely that the society will be deep by violen

experts in libya looked and analyzed it. we went on the basis of the intelligence community and they were scrambling to get all the information they could. and yes, the intelligence community assessment served as the basis for what ambassador rice said when she appeared on the sunday show. and on september 18th, when the video footage arrived from the security cameras the deputy cia director has testified it was not until september 18th, when the cia received the libyan government's assessment of video footage that showed the front of the facility with no sign of protesters that it became clear we needed to revisit our analysis. and then, after they looked at the video footage and fbi reporting from interviews of personnel on the ground in benghazi during the attacks the cia changed its assessment. and that was explained thoroughly in the bipartisan report issued by the house permanent select committee on intelligence which did a very thorough job, congressman. >> gentleman yields back, we'll take a quick break for ten minut

he was adamantly in favor of us staying in libya.art of discussion with him and, jake sullivan and other was the, you know, how do we best convey what the stakes, the united states has in staying involved in libya would be. and i thought that was, you know, very much in keeping with both his assessment and his experience. trish: >> i appreciate your perspective madam secretary. let me share with you my perspective. if you need to take time to read a note i'm happy to pause. >> no, i'm just being reminded which i think is important, that you know, remember chris spent the vast majority of his time in tripoli, not in benghazi. so a lot of what he was looking at how you deal with not only those in authority positions in libya, who were based in tripoli at that time, but also representatives of other governments and the like and i think it is fair to say that anytime you're trying to figure out what's the best argument to make especially someone like chris stevens trying to put together to make the best argument about why the united stat

was libya, al qaeda establishing sanctuary? >> i'm aware that that was certainly among the information provided to me. >> there was another particular piece that was talked about after the ied attack that al qaeda expands in libya. were you familiar with that? >> i can't speak to specific pieces, congressman, but i was well aware of the concerns we all had about the setting up of jihadist training camps and other activities in libya, particularly in eastern libya. >> you were briefed and i think the cia between january and

consulate in libya that took the lives of the u.s. ambassador and three other americans. >> we're going to pursue the truth in a manner worthy of the memory of the four people who lost their lives. and worthy of the respect of our fellow citizens. and we are going to write that final definitive accounting of what happened in benghazi. >> but the hearing soon devolved into a familiar partisan argument that's dominated american politics for much of the last three years. chairman trey gowdy and his fellow republicans pressed clinton for answers, drilling down on the e-mails she sent as secretary of state. >> my question is how did you decide when to invoke a people in process and who just got to come straight to you? because it looked like certain things got straight to your inbox and the requests for more security did not. >> it was this committee that first discovered clinton's use of a private e-mail account. the controversy has consumed her presidential campaign. shining a bright light on her leadership. her long-time friend sydney b

the security situation in libya was dangerous. >> right. >> without question. would you say that ambassador stevens was unaware of any aspect of that? >> no, i would not. i think he was very aware. >> so he knew the security situation in libya quite well? >> that's right. >> and yet and again i want to be clear on this in his communications with you and you had many even if he didn't have your e-mail address, did he ever say, you know, did he raise the security issue directly with you? >> no, he did not. >> and the same question and obviously he chose to go to benghazi, he as you have described earlier as gosh all across the world today diplomates are weighing the risks and benefits in a lot of dangerous places and he had to do that and he chose to go to benghazi. >> he did and congressman ambassadors in the countries they are representing the united states and do not as a practice ask permission from the state department to travel in the country where they are stationed. >> and as well. >> okay, let's sort of recap and reassess and regroup and figure out where

the statement below is from your press person in libya. sends this is greg hicks and to the experts in the affairs bureau same people saying susan rice was off the reservation. here is what they get. here is what she says to them. benghazi more terrorist attack than a protest. we want to distinguish, distinguish not conflate the events. this was a well-planned attack. so, again, privately the experts on libya know this was a well-planned attack but publically jay carney is saying the same thing you are saying publically. we have no information that this was pre-planned. this was caused by a video. >> congressman, the next morning at 9:59 i gave another statement. i listened carefully to what you said and you kept talking about cause. the word cause is not in my statement of the night before. >> i'm eareferring to what you said in our first exchange a few hours ago. >> i'm sorry if i haven't been clear. i will try to be clearer. i was talking about people throughout the region trying to justify attacks on our facilities as we saw later in t

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, knows anything about libya or has in libya, allests of which would be important if you were going to determine the credibility which i think is why you probably took this information off of what you sent house.white john: who is sidney blumenthal? and why did he feature so the benghazin hearing? tim carney? is sortney blumenthal of a classic washington figure, a former clinton administration official who now is an operative using political experience to do libya so he's an annoying friend you have who emails you things constantly, he's hillary's annoying friend of she would pass on some his intelligence higher up as the trey gowdy thing was showing and it also came out in the toring that he had access hillary's private secret little email she moved away from state servers while top state department officials, like ambassador stevens, didn't. john: eleanor? eleanor: the republicans are trying to turn sidney blumenthal a svengali-type figure in suggesting he was behind all of and isya strategy secretly whispering in hillary's ear. it's ridiculous. and the 11 hours of badgering withstoo