i want to ask about libyan tribes. political science persuasion and history i imagine tribes are a big part of the solution in libya. alluld posit that first of they are not always atavistic. there was a group of african migrants from different areas, coffee push people out of their homes and stuck them there. next we have a tribal chief of a tribe that never existed. tried a strategy in 2011 that failed. none of the militias are named after tribes. you hear tribes are part of the solution, so my question for you on our topic today, -- one last point. when libyans negotiate they make reference to tribal packs and tribal history, and yet it is often imagined history. given all these tribal framings and imaginations and imagined history, what are the lessons? >> it is a very difficult question. you can read everything on tribes in libya. i read many reports and books in , tribes couple years are really fundamental. arer the side, no, tribes nothing, do not exist anymore. historically they existed absolutely. they were re

it was libyan and it did not invest in anything. above all it did not invest in childhood education. so you're a libyan. how can you do this in modern times? we don't have so many choices. you know, i can -- in telling you it was not perfect at all full of frictions and clashes and in political problems. in 1959 it became a rich chen so it was a positive experience in some respects. >> thanks. >> for those who are watching on the web cast we are taking questions on our twitter account if you would like to question remotely. it is at csispmdh. sir, in the front row. >> i wanted to ask about libyan tribes. some of those of the history persuasion and sociological persuasions and others can imagine that trips are a big part of the so the trooibe you mentioned, he kicked people out of their homes. we have a tribe that never existed. so the second point is the figure of, to that as 11:00. none of the malitias are named after tribes. so my question for you -- oh, one last point, when libyans they often maik and it's also imagined history.

the libyans are, i guess. into then't get country then i think coming up with some comprehensive strategy the proxy war dynamic that is going on, i think would be the most healthy thing the united states could do. prospectnow what the of us taking leadership in that area, realistically is. woulde blue sky scenario be the most helpful thing we could do to give the libyans the space they need. because right now, her their their history, they are not figuring out organically what is the best government for them. government they have is one that is being forced on them. the only organic ones are the militias. and if we can't have a presence on the ground that is meaningful enough to have a decisive effect, i think what we can do is engage all the various outside actors to sort of minimize what effects they are having that are destructive. i went to aska, you about something that came up earlier when were talking to government officials. hadg back to 2011, policymakers been well versed in libyan history, how might

i wanted to ask about libyan tribes. those of the political science persuasion and some of those of the history persuasion and social logical persuasions and an tlop logical and others often imagine that the tribes are a big part of the solution in libya. and i would posit that first of a all they are not always atovistic, the -- tribe was a group of migrants from different areas that gadhafi pushed people out of their homes and stuck them there, and next thing you know we have a tribal chief of a tribe that never existed. the second opponent is failure of various tribal strategies, like gadhafi 11, completely failed. none of the militias are named after tribes and yt we hear so much about how tries are a big part of the solution. my question for you, given our topic today is -- one last point. when libyans negotiate they often make references to tribal pacts, right, and tribal history, and yet it's often imagined history. right. >> uh-huh. >> so given all these tribal framings and imaginations and imagined history, you

a well known family of libyans here in manchester. oh hashemite i miss. thank you so much for having me. this one in our. house which is just right. makes me snow. like the family of the bomber so many. bones came here fleeing the regime of moammar gadhafi when we came we were running away for our life from a brutal regime that kills its opponents the hundred people in the streets and there's all sorts of things but you start asking for nothing in return you just enjoy and be a good citizen and your man you fans of course. of course. it's very clear from talking to you that you've had a huge emotional reaction to what's happened here imagist the first thing that came to mind this is this is our city being terrorized by one of our own. world to start is a feeling of shame so it is time that we do something in return we do something to counter the doubt. and to prevent it from ever happening again image do you think there's been a sort of naivety or even a willful ignorance about the realities of what's going on in the community i think so i mean now i woul

libyans, especially young libyans, hunger for more than just freedom.ick -- uncle kentaki fried chicken. >> johar: uncle kentaki. >> anthony: okay. the colonel, and his buddies the king and the clown, have not quite made it here, given the uncertainty of the situation. so in the meantime, places like this have been popping up. uncle kentucky, awesome. do you know where kentucky is? >> johar: the kentucky is from usa. >> anthony: a part, yeah. >> johar: yeah. >> anthony: these places new? >> johar: yeah. it's new. before the gaddafi -- >> anthony: impossible. >> johar: yeah. and now, it's normal. >> anthony: oh, that's nice. >> johar: how you found it? >> anthony: spicy and delicious. bismillah. >> johar: bismillah. >> anthony: johar, like many libyans his age, fought to overthrow gaddafi. he was there, gun in hand, when they stormed gaddafi's palace compound. happy? excited? >> johar: in the fighting? >> anthony: it was a good day? yeah. >> johar: it's give it to me nice feeling. nice feeling. the gaddafi, he's killed my cousin. how you should be feelin

easier to manage within the country but is false optimism the best thing that you can offer to the libyans that they deserve a more honest assessment of what is going on you know but we were fair and we are fair until now and you can see how things are being are shaping much better and this is coming back to tripoli the united nations is coming back next month this is good science to show that we did manage to do the united nations just heard a fruitless months of talks with the various factions involved in the fighting and divisions inside libya so the point where nothing was agreed at the end of this month and no timeframe was set to resume the talks either so things aren't getting better or in fact the chief prosecutor the i.c.c. said earlier this year the international criminal court the situation is both dire and unacceptable reports indicate that the country is at risk of returning to widespread conflict that's exactly the reason why the prime minister has launched his roadmap around june july to propose the best way forward with all of these challenges we were thinking that a certai

at the libyan frozen assets we did not call for and freezing it because we know that it's not a time for that we called for and freezing the management of the frozen assets it's totally different we're losing one billion dollars a year because we're not able to manage it not to unfreeze it we know we're not in a steady state to unfreeze these assets and that's what we called for in the u.n. and the u.n. sanctions committee it's not money that's going to sustain libya business it's uniquely it's a unity of purpose compromise democracy correct things that you don't have and these are the main problems to why you don't have an economy at the moment that's properly funded where do you buy that country that has divided institutions. over and institutions are divided when you call when you talk about two central banks divided it's not the responsibility of the government to unite the central bank it's a sovereign thing that is related to the house of representatives and the state council according to the libyan political agreement this is the legislative body that is responsible of the sov

i think possibly other society is right in telling the libyans you know you have to all. stand the bone be counted you are an own up to this and so if there is a conversation that needs to be had what is it you cannot afford to be a pacifist or take a back seat and leave the initiative to others initiative is taken by the radical muslims who are committing crimes in your name in your religion like it or not it will turn around and you will pay the price. something i do said over dinner sparked my interest the didsbury mosque had been infiltrated by jihad spac in the ninety's. somewhat of a news to worship his father was them always and who performed the call to prayer rulers of unchecked radical elements in this mosque and rumbled around for years but elders deny the saying they report any extremist views including those on the base to the authorities. but it turns out back in one thousand nine hundred nine after the soviets left afghanistan at least fifty jihad is fighters did appear in didsbury mosque many were libyan their influence is being felt here ever since and no

soviets left afghanistan at least fifty jihadist fighters did appear in didsbury mosque many were libyan their influence is being felt here ever since and now that's being repeated all over again during the arab spring in libya in twenty eleven drives of young british libyan men went off to fight and overthrow gadhafi britain led the nato intervention with air strikes but it needed ground forces to do the real work men like our craft who went from manchester to fight. why were the british authorities so relaxed about people going off to fight him and i know they're going for a good cause. yes i think the tiriel this ideology at the time that. we couldn't get rid of kadafi ourselves through the mirror of it let the libyan have to rise up first. we now know some became radicalized modifying islamist militias so was it a mistake to let them go and then let them come back it was a mistake it is to mistake they made when people come back they didn't get their brains examined and checked out i mean everybody has been to a war zone and it's some type of psychotherapy to find out if he's one of

easier to manage within the country but is false optimism the best thing that you can offer to the libyans that they deserve a more honest assessment of what is going on you know but we were fair and we are fair until now and you can see how things are being are shaping much better and this is coming back to tripoli the united nations is coming back next month this is good science to show that we did manage to do the united nations just heard a fruitless months of talks with the various factions involved in the fighting and divisions inside libya so the point where nothing was agreed at the end of this month and no timeframe was set to resume the talks either so things aren't getting better or in fact the chief prosecutor the i.c.c. said earlier this year the international criminal court the situation is both dire and unacceptable reports indicate that the country is at risk of returning to widespread conflict that's exactly the reason why the prime minister has launched his roadmap around june july to propose the best way forward with all of these challenges we were thinking that a certai

economy none of that is improving under your government is it you have to look into it carefully to libyan political agreement what it says it says that responsibility on the ground you know about that but this is the reality on the ground never mind what it says on a piece of paper when there is a united government in the country and there is a way to we have to have the proper methods taken into consideration these things could be resolved when you have to so have a strong government you have three govern you have to go to parliament but this is not the problem of the current if you have no members of a presidential council as well who feuding constantly looks to doesn't like the house of representatives the libyan investment authority absolutely all of that is disputed but this happened before we even came in well that's the challenge and we that's why they're having now and you haven't done anything about take me to take take the national oil commission yes for instance the chairman who has stated on the record that he doesn't regard your government as legitimate now that's not true th

why many libyans blame the government for a failed revolution six years since the fall of moammar gadhafi. and in sport will tell you about a tennis player who has just won her first match as the new world number one. international donors in geneva have pledged two hundred thirty four million dollars to help the ranger refugee crisis brings the total amount of money committed to three hundred thirty five million which is still short of the un's overall appeal for four hundred forty four million dollars. the u.n. says the money is needed to provide lifesaving aid to the one point two million refugees who fled violence in myanmar for bangladesh officials in bangladesh say the refugee situation is becoming untenable as thousands of range of muslims cross the border every day to invade saudi has more from cox's bazaar in bangladesh. things are considerably improving the refugee since the big late august when things were very chaotic it was the host community who were the first responders then the presence of a lot of aid agencies in various camps. in a field hospital sanitation and water faci

the money from libyan oil allowed gadhafi to underwrite ambitious projects. three hundred million dollars for the first pan-african satellite ross com. thirty billion dollars in the largest irrigation system in the world that draws on the fast research a fresh water under the sahara to turn tens of thousands of hectares of libyan desert into farmland. khadafi wanted to demonstrate that africa could develop without depending on the western banking system or the international monetary fund libya to live through all of tens of billions of dollars in each case was capitalizing a number of new african economic institutions of the african development bank of the african monetary fund africa would then develop its also lotions and develop its own line. address its own problems so it was in good of you. and with gadhafi is leadership increasingly becoming something of a bloc rather than a series of disparate individual nations that could be dealt with one on one and set against each other. when gadhafi was elected chairman of the african union in two thousand and nin

and many libyans that are emerging out of the turn an eleven revolution and being able to kind of you know there are many many basic demands but i think they have that at heart what they're really fighting for is power and trying to make it look like they want to try and sort of many of the local basic interest of those of us and just briefly what where does that leave any prospect of actually having a stable government that does care about what people's needs but i think they have to divorce themselves from the political. about all they have to go to try to come around very very boring things that are there in politics the boring things are how do i make sure the schools run on time how to make sure the hospitals run on time unless they thought having those conversations as opposed to who's going to be the minister in this government has got take over this government which is the real me that's really where the conversations are focus now is this too much mileage in there and there's an unfortunate so much oil in the country for them to be able to really care about the basic needs of

to empower the libyans to listen a lot to the libyans so that the external dimension doesn't doesn't dominate the discussion and then the u.n. once it builds its trust and the relationship with the libyans then can influence the international actors because it it has a better understanding of the conflict and it it has a chance of convincing them to work together rather than work at cross purposes so it does seem like the u.n. peacekeeping mission is more about selling call flakes rather than preventing them why isn't the u.n. focusing more on prevention. well the secretary general as made clear that he he wants to focus on on prevention i think there are number of situations in the world where you see problems simmering and the question often is not so much that you are surprised you know you you can draw up a list of places that could blow up but there is not the political will to address that crisis management crowds out so to speak prevention and i think is very important for the secretary of the u.n. and that's what he wants to do and he is. launching reforms to that effect is v

and gunshot wounds to the head when mrs say the victims were arrested months ago i have to as the libyan national army. had reports from tripoli thirty six bodies have been found in what appears to have been a mess excuse in in libya the bodies were found in the village of libya are about seventy kilometers east of the city of been an area controlled by the libyan national army or eliminate forces loyal to negate general khalifa haftar the corpses showed signs of torture and had gunshots to the head witnesses in benghazi say the victims who were arrested by have to the forces months ago and not heard of since. sources told ages either those who went missing including opponents of have to and military dissidents did not agree with the operations carried out by his troops their linae which is affiliated to the top of the best parliament in eastern libya has ordered an investigation and a statement signed by highly for have to says they will try to identify arrest and prosecute the perpetrators of the crime or have that is the forces have been accused of committing atrocities on numerous oc

and while addressing a media forum in west minister he suggested this is the move to make and if a libyans don't like it then they don't need to participate you know any did actually use the analogy of dogs he said dogs seem not to complain about this so you know maybe people won't down the line but i do think this is not the near is the far far future maybe the days of designer babies will see this the norm but not today very good presence in that thank you very much for this inside that's it for me chris and christoph and on the whole business team here and i have an update for you in the next hour of if we go here's a real time check on global markets at this hour thank you very much for watching the business but. it's only. wild week on the w. good good good good good good. to hear everything revolves around our animal kingdom and their two legged fans. her subjects are usually the four legged pariah the. photographer on you claim and her animal model. who wrote to sit next. to. me is sun media where does it come from the month of two is also. starting october fifteenth on w and online

pretty unwelcome remind all of a may just stay in on britain's recent foreign policy decisions the libyan war was with the help of the u.k. the u.k. was a major partner in the french led intervention back in two thousand and eleven when the decision made when the decision was made to top of the government of good sassi britain was also a major sponsor of that military action the u.k. contributed over a billion pounds to the bombing campaign in libya and it's the problem that's been a good knowledged with by most of the leaders involved in that intervention is that there was no planning for what happened off to wood so libya has undergone years of continued violence political chaos as rival factions fight against each other in the country perhaps the only consolation for those trying to mitigate the effects of this latest burra skaf is that it isn't likely to cause a huge diplomatic scandal simply because libya is in too much of a mess politically to respond to this there are two rival governments vying for power they have currently got bigger fish to fry than boris johnson's comments. bor

now to some of the other stories making the news this hour the libyan coast guard has rescued seventy five migrants including a number of children who were stranded on a rubber boat as they sought to reach italy they were taken to the naval base in the libyan capital tripoli and handed over to the international medical corps. kenyan police have fired tear gas at opposition leaders in the western city of to sumo. clashes also broke out between police and protesters demanding election reforms the demands come after kenya's supreme court voided the results of a presidential election in august due to irregularities. california authorities say wildfires north of san francisco of now consumed at least thirty five hundred homes and businesses the death toll from the blazes has risen to twenty three already say hundreds of people have been reported missing. a small asteroid is doing a flyby of planet earth today but scientists say there's no chance it will hit our planet it's expected to miss by about forty four thousand kilometers still astronomers are saying the closer flight path is giving

statements and actions however some say this time he's gone too far promising a bright future for libyancity hit kids up its dead bodies first reports believe you could be telling me just. how to use how to say. things to your body to be used. remember he believes. this is a pretty unwelcome reminder of a major stay in on britain's recent foreign policy decisions the libyan war was with the help of the u.k. the u.k. was a major partner in the french led intervention back in two thousand and eleven when the decision made when the decision was made to topple the government of one hundred sassy britain was also a major sponsor of that military action the u.k. contributed over a billion pounds to the bombing campaign in libya and it's the problem that's been a good knowledge with by most of the leaders involved in that intervention is that there was no planning for what happened afterwards so libya has undergone years of continued violence political chaos as rival factions fight against each other in the country perhaps the only consolation for those trying to mitigate the effects of this la

an area controlled by the libyan national army or eliminate forces loyal to negate general lee for have. the corpses showed signs of torture and had gunshots to the head. witnesses in benghazi say the victims who were arrested by health or the forces months ago and not heard of since sources told the edges here are those who went missing including opponents of have turned and military dissidents who did not agree with the operations carried out by his troops academy fiza any human rights advocate says committing such atrocities is a kind of psychological warfare to intimidate have tears in amy's. corpses were found less than thirty kilometers away from the central command which means that this heinous crime is meant to intimidate after hours appearance and embarrass the i.c.c. and the united nations it's a message to the world that have to our forces can do whatever they want and that they don't care about the international organizations. they live in a which is affiliated to the top of the best parliament in eastern libya has ordered an investigation and a statement signed by the have

renegade libyan general however hafter says his eastern based army carried out their strikes on the city of killing at least fifteen before strikes lasted about an hour on monday night most of the victims were women is controlled by two armed groups and is under siege by have to us forces however have those claim of responsibility is being disputed with some locals saying they saw egyptian warplanes flying over the border u.s. president says a libyan man linked to a two thousand and twelve attack on an american diplomatic compound in benghazi has been captured trump said special forces seized. in operation in libya he says alabama will face justice in the u.s. the u.s. ambassador and three other americans died in that attack the white house is dismissing charges laid against three former advisers to transfer residential campaign saying none of it shows he colluded with russia to influence the election paul manifolds and rick gates have pleaded not guilty to twelve charges including tax evasion the third former advisor george papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the f.b.i. about his co

at least sixteen people have been killed in airstrikes in the eastern libyan city of the four strikes lasted about an hour on monday night most of the victims were women and has been besieged for more than a year by armed groups loyal to the renegade general handy for have top he's denied carrying out the strikes. kenya's main opposition leader raila odinga has called for the results of the presidential election rerun to be canceled it comes a day after the president of the kenyatta was declared the winner kenyatta took ninety eight point two percent of the vote despite a voter turnout below forty percent made no mention of a legal challenge but called for a dialogue towards democracy. joining us live now mohammed joining us from nairobi mohammed where do you think this process might go next well they've got to say. he's not going to accept the results of their election really around that were released yesterday evening he things president who took in. all three unconstitutionally and that he raila odinga has now embarked on what you call a come pain for electoral justice he is not is

after the libyan remains divided and devastated. the country is plagued by internal fighting and financial collapse. is another challenge for the un backed government of national accord based in tripoli it's already dealing with a failing health service spiraling inflation and public sector strikes a the pay people are demanding solutions to their worsening living conditions the head of the water resources authority says he needs more money from the government if things are to improve. in the absence of adequate spare parts a lack of money security chaos people have been taking matters into their own hands and this in turn has affected the performance of the system. he wins says divisions a deepening in libya and that finding a political agreement is the only way forward the people struggling to access basic supplies like water it can't come soon enough victoria gate to be out is there. the u.s. defense secretary has warned north korea against escalating its nuclear and missile tests james mattis is in the south korean capital for t

special forces have captured a libyan man then to a twenty two of attack on a u.s. diplomatic compound in benghazi the attack killed ambassador christopher stevens and three other americans in a statement trump said the capture of the stuff. happened on his orders and that he will face justice in the united states was jordan has more now from washington d.c. . on september eleventh two thousand and twelve a mob attacked the home in benghazi libya where the u.s. state department had established a defacto consulate the ambassador christopher stevens was killed during that attack as were three other americans said to be security contractors at the benghazi site more than five years later just one man the alleged ringleader of that mob is now on trial here in the united states on monday the u.s. announced that a second person mostafa has been arrested after a u.s. military operation somewhere in libya and that mr will be coming to the united states to stand trial in the deaths of the four americans very little is known about the stuff with whom he was associated whether

at least eleven people have been killed in four air strikes in the libyan city of dan up in the east of the country witnesses say that civilian areas were his women and children among the dead a weather update next to zero dead a killing in colombia that's threatening historic cease fire deal will tell you. every one of the five. in the stand off for the stray in prison camp in papua new guinea as it faces closure later today. by the time. or is the sun sets in the city of angels. hello we've got more heavy rain pushing into central areas of vietnam central and southern vietnam sings the big downpours at the moment north easterly winds continue to feed more steering across the south china seas further north is fine and dry some lovely weather into southern parts of china hong kong at around twenty eight celsius twenty celsius two for manila and more humid here that we are going to see the usual heavy heat of the day showers rumbling away and i shower stretch their way down across much of southeast asia usual thunderhead still some rather wet weather there to southern parts of vietnam

this is how some libyans greeted the end of the death his four decades in power in oktober to eleven o'clock and mohammed was an opponent of good death and was imprisoned by the regime over the last six years he's watched as hope of a bright future has turned into despair. the fact that gadhafi himself is gone is a victory to every oppressed person repaid dearly to recapture our freedom it took too much blood and too many souls but unfortunately excessive freedom took us to far in the opposite direction. the country has slipped in to kill us also shaking the stability of neighboring countries many people celebrated the fall of gadhafi regime six years ago now as a country is plagued by internal fighting division and financial collapse the international community relies on efforts by the united nations to bring the warring factions together. are you pushed to mediate between revell factions has so far resulted in a stalemate with military rule in the east under any gate commander really for have to and an internationally recognized government controlling the west the country is awash

it led to a bloody and deadly fight against the libyan forces. constant chatter on this episode a one on one east we're in the heart of the hour and is this just the beginning. were around he was once a thriving picture a city on a lake. the largest muslim city in the catholic nation of the philippines. today it lies in ruins. abandoned and destroyed. after i still can't remember we may government forces were in an all out battle to retake it. will. be faced snipers and thousands of hidden improvised explosives there. will be a check mail from. it was a slow and dangerous advance. trade in jungle warfare he had to learn how to fight in an urban environment. but. this is a typical hole the fighters punched through in the hauser's. yes there are. fourteen here captain are now karen dunn says hunting down the fighters has been tough. in order for from one building to another. it's a technique learn from meisel in syria and iraq. they've been training with the various. for a long time already. the military says it has evidence that well armed fighter

she also -- she highlighted migration and the libyan political process.o highlighted turkey. we will continue to listen to speech.e minister's you can always monitor it live on livego. vonnie: coming up, will there be any further megadeals this year? robert kindler will weigh in. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ mark: live from london, i am mark barton. vonnie: and i and vonnie quinn. let's zero in on the m&a business through insider analysis on the biggest deals. ofx joins us now with one the biggest dealmakers on wall street. alex: it is my pleasure to be joined by robert kindler. it has been a good year for you guys. let's jump right into it. you are number one on the top of goldman sachs. jockeys like you always for one and two. >> i think it is clear that we have the dominant franchise of the two of us. u.s.re number one in the by a pretty large measure, and we have become number one globally. it is always a battle back and forth between us. alex: as we look at the year as a whole, i think one of the big takeaway points is that while , we have somewhat down no

macron recently hosted two libyan leaders to find a solution to the libyan crisis. is an important part of the puzzle as far as macron is concerned, and that is did to reason for macron' go fairly lightly on the human rights question. >> reporting live from the elysee palace, thank you. you can catch our exclusive interview with egyptian leader l-sisi later this tuesday. to beijing, where the communist party has voted to enshrine she should ping -- she's in pain's ping to the constitution. the latest news means any challenge to the chinese leadedr will now be seen as a direct threat to communist party rule. we must have the courage and resolve to build on the historic achievements made by the chinese people under the leadership of china's -- chinese communists generation after generation, and to strike for it toward an ever promising future. toward -- foreword towards an ever promising future. >> more from beijing. >> congress has ended in beijing. as expected, delegates have elected the communist party leadership to stay in power should the next five years. they al

from barcelona now sources close to renegade libyan general however have to say forces loyal to him carried out air strikes on the city of killing at least sixteen before strikes last about an hour on monday night most of the victims were women forces loyal to have to have besieged for more than a year. has more from tripoli. around sixteen people have been killed including seven women and seven children in the eastern city of daraa after a. civilian populated area has been targeted by. now the security supervisor in the eastern city of that now says that i witnesses in the eastern libya said that they saw egyptian warplanes flying over the bordering area between egypt and libya immediately before the airstrikes took place now some sources belonging to the negate general head of the have said forces loyal to negate general credit for have to are behind the. attacks now the main hospital which is a horatio hospital in the eastern city of that is this this but it only short of medical workers medical equipment and medications now they tried to transfer their twenty five one hundred people in

at least fifteen people have been killed in airstrikes in the eastern libyan city of dernier the four strikes lasted about an hour on monday night most of the victims were women turner has been besieged for more than a year by armed groups loyal to the renegade general khalifa haftar he's denied allegations of carrying out the strikes. the lawyers of social media giants facebook twitter and google will testify before u.s. senators in just a few hours time is part of the investigation into whether russia used the tech companies to interfere in last year's presidential election facebook says about eighty thousand posts were produced and as many as one hundred twenty five million american users alone they have seen the russian based content russia has repeatedly denied allegations it attempted to influence the election. refugees have barricaded themselves inside an australian run detention center in papa new guinea refusing to leave the modest compound asylum compound was closed on tuesday after a course data illegal but the six hundred refugees from maine say it's too dangerous to leave