joining us is a libyan american at oxford libya. providing information on global events. and on skype, cofounder of the libyan youth movement, an organization covering event in libya since the 2010 revolution. many believe libya is becoming a failed state. what is the current security situation there? >> it is a failed state. there's no question about that. it's no longer on the brink of civil war. libya is on the brink of civil war. intensity goes up and down. the situation is we have an incredible number of factions. most no better than factions. there are groups that are criminal in nature, that use oil or drugs or money or weapons, or illegal immigrants to generate funding. others are ideological, some extremists, including those affiliated with islamic state in certain parts of the country. you have some that are the remnants of the old military regime, and others that are tribal in nature, regional. what you really - the overall picture of libya is you are dealing with a no man's land, in a sense that it's similar to somalia, but on a larger scale. and more signific

americans have been identified as among casualty. >> we mourn those who are lost, wei don't think we're at point of drawing conclusions. >> reporter: no group has claimed responsibility, lib ran libyan officials say that the -- are responsible. responsible. >> iselle is a direct out -- isis is a direct out growth ofal al qaeda in iraq that grew out of our invasion that is an example of unintended consequences. >> reporter: there were other groups in tunisia. including a off chute of al qaeda, the deadly message was delivered to the west. 140 miles across mediterranean to southern europe. lou: thank you very much. we'll have more on what the defense secretary described as matt ostracizeing islamic state we're welcoming right back. >> dec durban playing race card on floor of u.s. senate. senator david bitter will join us next. congratulations. you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired have los