if there was a by-election in lichfield, would l by—election in lichfield, would probably lose it andabour. and the next general election 18 months later, it went back and people voted me in, a conservative. what happened that by—elections happened... what happened in lichfield happens a lot in by—election i'm not being complacent, i'mjust in by—election i'm not being complacent, i'm just saying flare bits complacent and it seems keir starmer things is in the bag, we'll have to see because that will be up to the electorate and government as i said, to deliver. it to the electorate and government as i said, to deliver.— i said, to deliver. it will indeed. thank you _ i said, to deliver. it will indeed. thank you very _ i said, to deliver. it will indeed. thank you very much. _ i said, to deliver. it will indeed. thank you very much. some - i said, to deliver. it will indeed. i thank you very much. some time before we find out, possibly a year or up to 18 months away. that is it from me at the moment but i'll be back with more later. back to matthew in the studio. earlier i spoke to the

phoebe lichfield is the only battle to go so far, lbw. 24—1 in the fifth over in southampton.it is another climbing stage in the alps. a fascinating race and you can follow it at bbc.com, or in the uk, bbc dot code sounds fascinating! to politics now — and the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has given an extensive interview to the bbc, this morning. sir keir starmer said a future government led by him would prioritise "economic stability" and not retreat into promising "vast sums of money". with a labour government spend more money on public services? do you believe, after years of saying austerity has damaged the public sector, do you believe that part of the answer has to be more money? a, the answer has to be more money? a labour government will always want to invest _ labour government will always want to invest in — labour government will always want to invest in its public services. that _ to invest in its public services. that is— to invest in its public services. that is not— to invest in its public services. that is not an answer to my question. that is not an answer

lichfield have said the policy with consultancy is going to reduce house—building by thousands and already the last three years and this shows the approach _ last three years and this shows the approach is — last three years and this shows the approach is working and what we are doing _ approach is working and what we are doing is— approach is working and what we are doing is making sure we support local— doing is making sure we support local communities to bring housing on stream. — local communities to bring housing on stream, especially on brownfield landm _ on stream, especially on brownfield land... �* , ., on stream, especially on brownfield land... �* land... are you giving local communities _ land... are you giving local communities a _ land... are you giving local communities a veto - land... are you giving local communities a veto over. land... are you giving local- communities a veto over achieving the 300,000? iiklo. communities a veto over achieving the 300,000?— communities a veto over achieving the 300,000? ., ., ., ., the 300,000? no, what we are doing, we are reforming _ t