. -- liddya >> reporter: we spoke with her children. life. >> you think it's good for your kids at the time, but you can't shelter them forever and once the world hits them, it is really bad for a while. it does mess with you. it's, like, me getting my real world. very scary and freaky. >> reporter: until a few years ago, vicki owned a christian newspaper that published from her home. when she turned against quiver full it was front page in the local newspaper. eventually she and her husband divorced and in 2009 she launched a blog called no longer quivering, which she described as a gathering place for women escaping and healing >> reporter: you call it spiritual abuse >> the reason i call it spiritual abuse is because people have like this innate desire to connect with their creator or the universe. these leaders hone in on that and they exploit that feeling. >> reporter: what do you think leaders like nancy campbell are really trying to sell? >> i think she's sincere. i don't think she's trying to scam. i think that so many of the le