for some people it was spot on for some the ecg age was older than the actual lidge and for some it was younger. and we actually looked at some charts to say why is that? it turns out the people with the ecg age is older have diseases they've had heart attacks, high blood pressure the ones with the ecg age tends to be younger are people who are exercising, have good health so we thought maybe this is telling us fizz oage. >> and when you think about it you're going to have a surgery, are you too frail, do you need nor medical management looking at your ecg age could be a marker we have to test that part now. another area where it could be useful is a lot of medicines are being developed to try to prevent aging. how do you know if they work >> right >> you have to figure out a way to say well, i'm getting younger. how do you know? if you a marker telling you how old you are, that could be used to prevent new approaches against aging. >> have you tested yourself? >> i have. >> a little bit older than i should be. >> have you changed any of your behaviors since? are you running more often,

we have to be more lidge plant. >> mike waldman, we have a minute left.e've talked about criminal justice in the campaign before. we are a few more months in since we last spoke about this. have we advanced beyond that binary '94 crime bill or not? how nuanced is the conversation taking place? >> it's a very different conversation than we have had in decades on this issue in campaigns. this was the wedge issue, the racial not so code word wedge issue in the past. now you've got both parties competing on criminal justice rye form saying explicitly mass incarceration is a crisis in so many ways, a civil rights crisis for the country and there are ideas now what's the second step? a number of people including biden have endorsed the idea that one of the worst things in the '94 crime bill which had some good and a lot of bad was that it paid states to incarcerate more people. why can't the federal government sunday its funds to states reducing their prison populations. that's the next step idea that could make a big difference and, you know, that's the kind o

already we have seen trump and his buddies in congress and state lidge lay temperatures do everythingll determine our access to birth control, cancer screenings, sex ed, abortion access and more. when people think of planned parenthood people think of abortion. they say they are a healthcare entity is that true? >> what we know to be true is. this if you look at planned parenthood's annual reports over the past 10 years, you see a trend. you see that their actual healthcare supervisors that they provide the std testing and treatment. birth control service those are continually on the decline. the only service that continues to increase year after year is abortion. we see where their priorities lie and it's not with women's healthcare. if it was really about women's healthcare they would be taking this $45 million and putting it back into their clinics instead of using it for political action. ainsley: that's a really good point because they say they need tax dollars. they need more money and they are worried that the president is going to strip them of their dollars. yet, they are usi

educating the public about folks' rights so that they understand that what is legitimate and not other lidge l -- vigilante volunteers who are making a separate effort, and so we need to help those new areas. >> and you wanted to talk about the participation gap for those with and without disabilities and how has hava helped to close the gap that was closer to 20%, and then went down to, well, below 5%, and can you talk a little bit about that? >> absolutely. prior to the health america vote act, we were doing even less to make america's elections accessible to all, and in fact, profoundly little. i am sure all of us in the room remember voting on the punchcard systems, and those are not only difficult for the average american to line up properly and use, but virtually impossible for people with certain types of disabilities and many american voters with disabilities voted privately and independently for the very first time after hava was pass and this is including the americans who began voting when they were 18 and not able to vote with the privacy and independence until they were in the 6