and you look at lidia bastianich, you look at rick bayless, all... there's mario batali now-- all ofare really cooking on public television, and i think that's the new forum where most of the chefs are. >> hinojosa: all right, so i just love the fact... because like you, i'm an immigrant. born in mexico. my mom is a great cook; and amazing cook with six kids in the family... or six of us all together-- fresh meal every single day. wow, did we love watching julia child. you actually met julia child. >> oh, i've met her a bunch of times. i'll tell you one of my two favorite stories. one-- the first time she came to blue ginger, i was petrified. i mean, i don't really get nervous for people, right? i don't care if you're the president of this or ceo of that, but when julia child was coming in, i'm like... >> hinojosa: well, how did you know? did they call? >> oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. oh, yeah; they called. they fortunately gave me the warning, so, you know, so everyone stood at attention, and of course i did the best meal i possibly could. and i ended up serving this foie gras course. it's