also joining me from minneapolis, minnesota, is ben leave lieber, sports radio host on k fan.g that is somehow bad for the nfl? i'm sorry, this really feels -- this feels like an odd pile-on for a guy who is having this level of accomplishment. >> listen, nobody wears socks with sandals. nobody does. >> everybody wears socks with sandals. >> no, no. your dad wears socks with sandals on the beach. and you criticize him for it. cam newton probably shouldn't wear socks with sandals, but the thing that everybody loves about cam newton is he does it his own way. there's no way you can totally criticize him. >> for me, i want to come out, for me, i guess the thing i'm finding most difficult about this is the idea that there is some ethical code of behavior in a game where the rule -- like the actual rules are hit the other guys. i mean, so beyond everything else going on in the nfl, right, just even the basic rules of the game, and this kid is dancing when he wins. >> right. i mean, that's the sheer irony of this whole thing. i think what it boils down to is cam newton is a black qu