let's go live to cnn's oren lieberman. he is live. i understand you're getting new details one of them may be able to enter israel after all? >> reporter: that's right, alison. congresswoman tlaib has asked to visit her grandmother. she wrote a letter to israel's interior minister where she said i will respect any restrictions and will not promote boycotts against israel during my visit. spokesman for the interior minister said he will decide within the coming hours whether to grant entry or not. we checked in with the government official and now he says it will be considered. perhaps a slight backtrack. no final decision on whether to grant entry to congresswoman tlaib. all of this after israel decided not to grant entry to both congresswoman tlaib and congresswoman omar. israel passed a law allowing it to ban entry to those who support a boycott against israel. this has certainly been the most high profile use of that law. when did israel make its decision? well, we know when it was announced. shortly after president trump tweeted i

and israeli officials said sit down at the table, we disagree with you. >> we heard from joseph lieberman but we've also heard fairly unanimous consensus amongst a number of the 2020 democrat presidential candidates. and to me what's been interesting is if we look at 2016, we've seen a shift on the overall israeli/palestinian issue. as the conversation has shifted to health care and economy, he's shifted the conversation on some of these issues as well. >> and nothing is clean in this town anymore. nothing is clear in this town anymore. as this plays out and democrats were trying to make the case and even some republicans, prime minister netanyahu, you're wrong. president trump, you should not have intervened. this is a democracy, let them make their case. democrats defending the two congresswomen stirred up even more trouble. this is congressman ted lieu. >> i wish president trump would resign. i don't think he's going to do that but certainly i can call on ambassador friedman to resign. his allegiance is to america, not the foreign power and to the constitution of the united states, not

oren lieberman is live from jerusalem.ome support from an ambassador earlier in the summer but maybe there's a reversal. oren, good morning. >> reporter: it was israel's ambassador to the u.s. who said because of israel's respect for the u.s. congress and israel itself, these two democratic women would not be allowed to visit. now the trip may be in jeopardy. there is a possibility that israel will not allow the visit in its current proposed format. professional teams are considering to examine the decision. we couldn't get an answer about what about the format is troubling. at this point with 36 hours to go until this trip is scheduled to begin, israel is considering very much the possibility of barring these two from entering the country. now there is already and there have been trips by other congress people to israel, including a democratic trip earlier this month and right now a bipartisan trip. these two congress women have left on their own. as you pointed out, victor, they support a boycott of israel. that's what's

oren lieberman, thank you very much. let's talk about this with former ambassador to israel during the clinton administration. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> let's begin with -- i know you've worked with netanyahu before, so we'll get to the political side of this in a moment. let's begin with apac, which is generally quite in line with the trump administration on all things israel policy. what they're saying is they oppose this move. they oppose the trump administration supporting israel on blocking these congresswomen to talk about this. what's your read? >> so apac stands for the u.s.-israel relationship. and bipartisan support for that relationship is critically important. that's why the principal, the israeli ambassador, that prime minister supported, that my congressman or woman should have the ability to come to israel regardless of their views was the right principle. and that unfortunately has been broken now as a result of president trump's use of essentially weaponizing israel in his campai

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let's go live to cnn's oren lieberman who is live for us in jerusalem. so just breaking, we know that congresswoman tlaib is going to be allowed to visit for humanitarian reasons, on humanitarian grounds. what about ihlan omar, because if she is able to go ahead and visit as well, it literally reverses what president trump was trying to accomplish. >> the requested visit of congresswoman ihlan omar remains banned at this point. that was a visit as israel sees it for political reasons and a knit as prime minister benjamin netanyahu says with a sole purpose of trying to damage israel. but congresswoman tlaib has family members in the west bank village where she intends to go and it is because of the family and she made a humanitarian request to visit her family and her grandmother in her 90s, saying it may be her final chance to see her that they've granted the request on humanitarian grounds. she sent a letter to israel and interior minister saying i will rerespect any restrictions and will not boycott during my visit. and allowing her entry on humanitari

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cnn's orren lieberman is live in jerusalem and you spoke with tlaib family in the west bank and what is their reaction to all of this. >> reporter: we went to the village of the ancestral home of rashida tlaib and her family supports her. they say israel's restrictions are unfair and she should only come visit as a duely elected member of congress and not under israeli restrictions. >> translator: we are against the conditional visit of rashida to palestine. she has a right to visit as a palestinian regardless of a congresswoman as any u.s. citizen has a right to come and visit their family without any conditions or pressure. >> her uncle suggested maybe they would try to get visas for her elderly grandmother and make the trip to the u.s. might only start the same fight on that side of the atlantic. >> and israel had originally said that congresswoman tlaib and omar could attend but what favors might israel want from trump to get re-elected? >> a very difficult re-election campaign with a fractured right-wing voter base at that. there is no doubt that trump is a big part of netanyahu

plus, former connecticut senator, senator joe lieberman. william lee is here and kyle bass as well.g up. top stor story this hour is venezuela's deep divide. u.s. officials reportedly holding secret talks to push nicholas ma dinicolas maduro ou. venezuela's top officials negotiating to secure safety, considered a major breakthrough as the regime opposed holding a new vote. joining me right now is the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, ho honduras, meo and the philippines, john negroponte. thank you for being here. your reaction to what's happened in terms of secret talks between the u.s. and venezuela. >> kind of takes me back to the time we were trying to negotiate mr. noriega out of power in man panama and those talks ended up not faring as well and the administration had to go in with force, the bush administration ultimately did that. i don't know if this situation will turn out differently. i think the big issue is what's the price we're going to have to pay to mr. maduro for reaching some kind of agreement? is he going to be let off the hook completely? is he not go

joe lieberman will weigh on all of this in a moment. jo. >> charles, good aer

joe lieberman didn't want to run. neither did al gore. people in the party were dissing some delicately distancing themselves from bill clinton, te way democrats today are with barack obama. and john kerry, our precursor to joe biden. a warhorse in the senate but had a distinguished career and he was a gas machine. he was for the ' $87 billion before, he wore camouflage, i think they were junior colleague students, if you don't go to college will go to a rack. >> the military held a sign misspelled it to make fun of what he said. >> the democratic establishment of the that joe bidart is going to save them from the agendas kamala harris elizabeth warren and these lesser candidates are running on. cory booker, et cetera. when you actually look at joe biden, he's he's merely rather dismissive of john kerry. i think you'll do better than the others would, but he doesn't have the oomph for the swing states that you need. >> as you pointed out, president bush 41 had an enormously high approving ratin rating. nobody thought anybody could beat hi

there's a battle now in israel to get the most votes and many politicians including netanyahu and lieberman and others feel that they do this by acting tough by showing that this land is owned now by jews by israel the palestinians are local residents their workers their. people who pass through but they don't have sovereign national rights as the jewish people do and therefore they go out of their way the israeli government and right wing to accentuate the jewish ownership of not just the land but this holy sites that are actually holy to to all people christians muslims and jews and in different in different places in the in the holy city of jerusalem so that's really one of the reasons why the israeli government hasn't come right out and said ok we'll continue the tradition which we agreed with the jordanians on the islamic what 4th or at least in jerusalem will continue the tradition that muslim holy days no jews go up to these sites they're not doing that they didn't do it last summer in the the end of ramadan when the israelis want to celebrate jerusalem day and they seem to be holdin

joe lieberman became a vice presidential candidate for that. donald trump not not going to take responsibility for anything he's done. ultimately, remember, al gore didn't get the white house and neither did hillary clinton. in the two times she ran she didn't win either. >> when you worked on that campaign, it wasn't as if you guys were asking bill clinton to campaign for al gore. were there a lot of requests for bill clinton? he was popular with the public. did he get a lot of requests to hang around them once they were impeached on the campaigns? >> i'll tell you this. the polling was very mixed. someone said when you ask people about bill clinton, they feel like your sister's cheating husband. you can't tell her that you spend 30 minutes talking to him. bill clinton has rehabilitated his image a lot since but at the time in 2000 it was not a very clear result. >> abby, give you a very clear result. is there a sense inside cornyn's world that it would be great? >> i don't hear impeachment come up in the campaigns very much, especially in the

joe lieberman will weigh on all of this in a moment. jo. >> charles, good afternoon to you. this whole thing has turned into a political battle over who supports israel, stomach. in a tweet earlier today, the president taking aim at democrats, who want to hold a vote of nonconfidence to the israeli ambassador to the united states. the u.s. ambassador. house democrats want to take action against israel, because he is fighting back against too, may be people, , and has said hs said unthinkably bad things about it and the israeli people. aoc plus four is the new face of the democratic party. the president and other republican saying that to leave and omar's position is not just their position. listen to lindsey graham from yesterday. >> policies coming out are dangerous. talib and omar. the reason she's not visiting her grandmother's because she has embraced the destruction of israel. >> 2020 democratic presidential candidate wayne n. >> president trump is unwilling to hold anyone accountable. you seen it with this instance of israel. you've seen it with russia. he has really s

. >> this is a place where j street on the left and aipac agree and senator lieberman who not one ofuld argue is anti-semitic in any way. i visited this state of israel several times. as mayor of tallahassee, we had a sister city relationship. i feel the more folks that you allow into israel, to get a firsthand look, meet with palestinians as well as israelis. this is their obligation as members of congress. guess what? i don't agree with anything steve king says f they were to ban him, i would also be on the record as saying that is inappropriate and as a member of congress he ought to be allowed to travel. >> we'll squeeze in a quick break. after two gun massacres in a matter of hours, 2020 democrats are promising bold action. award winning interface. ♪ ♪ award winning design. ♪ ♪ award winning engine. ♪ ♪ the volvo xc90. our most awarded luxury suv. ♪ ♪ at t-mobile, for $40/line for four lines, it's all included for the whole family. like unlimited with netflix on us. and now with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. $40/line for four lines and smartphones ar

joe lieberman became a vice presidential nominee because of a speech he gave on the floor. donald trump is not going to take responsibility for anything he's done. i don't know that he'll have the same faith as bill clinton did and i think ultimately, remember, al gore didn't geter hillary clinton in the two times democrats. president, she >> when you worked on that campaign, it wasn't as if you guys were asking bill clinton to campaign for al gore. yes, he was still popular with the public. did he get a lot of requests for people to come out and hang around him once they had been impeached on their campaigns. >> no. and the polling was very mixed. when you ask about bill clinton, they feel like they would about your sister's cheating husband, right, who got caught and you run into him into the grocery store. you like that guy, but you can't tell your sister you spent 30 minutes talking to him in the grocery store. i'm not sure that this shakes out very well. bill clinton has rehabilitated his image a lot. but at the time in 2000, it was not a very clear result. >> and, abb

remember, joe lieberman became a vice presidential nominee because of a speech he gave going after bill clinton. so donald trump is not going to take responsibility that he's done. so i don't know that he'll have the same fate as bill clinton did. and i think ultimately remember, al gore didn't get the white house, and neither did hillary clinton, and the two times she ran for president, she didn't win the white house either. so i'm not sure impeachment politics worked out well for the democrats. >> you worked on that campaign. it wasn't as if you were asking bill clinton to campaign for al gore. yes, bill clinton was still popular with the public, but did he get a lot of requests for people to come around and hang around with him? >> the polling was very mixed. i remember someone saying when you ask people about bill clinton, they feel like they would about your sister's cheating husband, who got caught and you run into him in the grocery store. you really like that guy, so i'm not sure that this really shakes out really well. bill clinton has rehabilitated his image a lot since. but i

cnn's oren lieberman is joining us from jerusalem. he's been following all the twists and turns. what are you hearing there now? >> well, as of right now congresswoman rashida tlaib who has granted access for a humanitarian visit to israel and the palestinian territories to see her family, including her 90-year-old grandmother, she said it might be the last time she's able to see her, she has rejected the visit. the day started with israel denying access from yesterday to these two congresswomen, rashida tlaib and ihlan omar, as you point out two of the most vocal critics of israel in congress. israel denying them access because they are supporters of a boycott against israel, and second because president donald trump essentially forced prime minister benjamin netanyahu's hand saying israel would show great weakness if they let them in. but israel left a window open there saying if she want to come on a humanitarian visit, that is if tlaib wants to come, she would be allowed to do so. that permission was granted this morning or early into the afternoon. and it looked like she wou

eastern i will talk to the former vice-president nominee joe lieberman as the president continues hisof the squad over israeli and talking to kyle bass with investi investing today. stay with fox news. "the five" begins now. >> ♪ dc >> hello. i am dana perino with katie, juan williams, jesse watters and greg gutfeld. it's 5 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ >> the president sparring with reporters for 30 minutes this afternoon. criticizing democrats over israel, depending his immigration policies and clashing with the media over bias. >> they are so bad for israel! they are so bad for jewish people. the horrible anti-semitic statements they made. if you vote for a democrat you

cnn's or rin lieberman takes a look at how israel sees this controversy. >> reporter: president donald's political fight against the democrats has hit israel. >> they are very anti-jewish and they're very anti-israel. >> congresswoman rashida tlaib a frequent target of trump refused to visit the country under israeli restrictions, the democrat of muslim and palestinian origin was granted access for humanitarian reasons to visit her family in the west bank, including her 90-year-old grandmother. then talib did an about-face. visiting my grandmother under these oppressive conditions meant to humiliate me would break my grandmother's heart. silencing me with treatment to mick me feel less than is not what she wants from me. it would kill a piece of me that always stands up against racism and injustice. talib's family in the west bank backed her decision. >> translator: we are against the conditional visit of ra she da to palestinian. she has the right to visit palestine as a palestinian. as any citizen with a u.s. passport has the right to come and visit their family without any condition

is a place where both j street, which is on the left, as well as apac agree, as well as senator liebermanwho not one of us could argue is anti-semitic in any way. i visited the state of israel several times. as mayor of the city of h tallahassee, we had a sister relationship with the city. i think the more folks you allow into israel to get a first-hand look, meet with palestinians as well as israelis. this is their obligation as members of congress. guess what, i don't agree with anything steve king says, but if they were to ban him, i would also be on the record as saying that is inappropriate and as a member of congress, he ought to be allowed to travel. >> we're going to squeeze in a quick break. after two gun massacres in a matter of hours. 2020 democrats are promising bold action on guns. but could it jeopardize their chance of winning the white house? stay with us. or to carry on a legacy? its show of strength... or its sign of intelligence? in crossing harsh terrain... or breaking new ground? this is the time to get an exceptional offer on the mercedes of your midsummer dreams at

. >> i want to go on the phone now to orren lieberman in israel right now.use the members of congress had very severe criticism for the israeli government and prime minister benjamin netanyahu and said some things that were controversial among other things they claim they would meet with members of the kinnesette and there is dispute of whether that is the case. what could you tell us about the israeli government version here? >> reporter: well, we haven't gotten a response yet from the israeli government but i suspect we'll tart hearing one soon. if not from prime minister benjamin netanyahu who is on a visit to the ukraine and some of the other members of his government. there was report that they would meet with a member of the joint arab list, certainly a member of israel connected from that party and also going to meet with executive member hannah howry and that organization not as a political organization but that organization that had arranged the trip. so although the initial planning of the trip appeared to be civil service society and nongovernment

the chairman of the rnc sent to a socialistic joe lieberman pushed to get it out of the final bill and ultimately it didn't make it into the affordable care act. today we're back in another debate about healthcare but it's shifted. we talking about the public option and medicare for all, what's often called single-payer health care system. what i think is exciting and interesting about this whole episode is that the public option isn't actually of recent innovation and policy. it's not limited to healthcare and historically it hasn't even been particularly controversial. we actually have public options all around us and we've had them for hundreds of years. we just don't think of them that way. so a public swimming pool is a public option. people have private swimming pools. a public library is a public option. georgetown down the road has a private library. there are public parks and private parks. there are public schools and some people send their kids to private schools. there are public golf courses president trump as private golf courses. the list goes on and on. these are public

that prospect we are joined now by former us senator and democratic vice presidential candidate joe liebermannk it would be a good idea for mr trump to meet president well soon?|j have trump to meet president well soon?” have and a condition to eat or a suggestion. basically, in our organisation i myself think the president has followed the correct choice with regard to irani, broke out of the previous nuclear agreement which i think was not strong enough. he has put maximum pressure on the iranians. the question now is this the time to sit down to try to renegotiate and write a that nuclear agreement? if it is then, i want to suggest to the president that he not accept meetings with president mohanty, the real decision—maker in iran is the supreme leader who has met with president putin. he has met with president putin. he has met with president shee of china. president trump obviously deserves to have a meeting at that level, if the iranians are not willing to have the supreme leader and meet with our president than i think the president ought to send vice president tends to meet with mohan

that and in an effort to participate i joined the blue-ribbon panel which is cochaired by senator lieberman and governor and health secretary tom ridge until she got elected to congress and we've been studying this for four or five years and we made great contribution. the biggest problem is, this is one of those things that the last big epidemic which is 100 years ago, congress is not good at long-range thinking, even though the experts will say it's inevitability to horrific pandemic inevitability to a terrific attack, the thousands and thousands of items are such that this is not come to the floor. and we wrote the first report, at my suggestion we began with a simulated hearing. it was a congressional hearing after the fact when thousands and thousands of people had died and members of congress holding the hearing were calling representatives of federal government saying why did you not see this coming, why read not prepared and why did these people have to die. and we did that as a message to congress saying let us not wait until they have left the barn to prepare. and so that's were d

to participate in this effort, i joined this blue ribbon panel, it's co-chaired by former senator liebermanand a former government and health secretary, tom ridge and tom dachyshyn and donna shillelagh it will she was elected. and the biggest problem is that -- a number of problems. one of the problems, this is one of those things that the last big pandemic to which you refer it over a hundred years ago. congress not good at long range thinking. even though the experts say there's an inevitability to a horrific pandemic, there was an inevitability to terrorist attacks. the thousands and thousands of items on the agenda of the congress, are such at that this doesn't come to the fore. when we wrote our first report, at my suggestion, we began with assimilat a simulated hearing after thousands and thousands of people died. members of congress were calling members of the federal government basically saying why did you not see this coming? why were you not prepared? why did all of these people have to die? and we did that as a message to congress saying let us not wait until the horses have left

but the committee has got a pretty good track record under tom's chairmanship and susan and joe liebermanre. i think working together we really can move the needle on this. i will take the incremental. i will keep twisting leon's arm to get support it might be the first step but it's a step otherwise we sit back and do nothing and keep yakking about this. i think we are all pretty well moved by that picture of the father and his daughter. i call it derry that morning and said are you sick of this? let's start doing something different. let's start having these and i thought this is a very good discussion. kind of wide ranging maybe not as focused as i would have it but that's the nature of the beast. we will continue to have these discussions with a very sincere desire of starting to develop solutions improve the situation on a continuous basis and i can't send counsel's praises enough and all your involvement thank you for doing it. >> thank you. >> with that the hearing will remain open for 15 days until august 1 5:00 p.m. for submission of statements this hearing roundtable is adjourne