because we have intellect liesed it too much and what that causes people to do is to take sides and now we have this partisanship that is so out of whack that even the israelis and arabs look at the republicans and democrats and go oh, my god! they are crazy! they are never going to get it together. [laughter] tavis: what about the -- i read the other day, a piece the other day and someone was arguing what is wrong with america getting back to the culture. what's wrong with america is we don't have a moral leader. we don't have a gandhi or a king. there is no moral leader. >> i did that last time i was on. i said we need a moral leader. i mean, that's a tough job because it just -- i think those things just happen. but you know, as long as we know what we're -- we have an idea what we're looking for, i'm not even sure if people know what they are looking for so let's know what we're looking for before we start hiring and voting. i don't think we knee what we're looking for. now -- know what we're looking for. we have all of these choices. that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking a

they national liesed the mortgage company and it led to a catastrophe and they are unwilling to do anything about that because it is plit can i sensitive involving what they do to give mortgages to low income people and other things. and they're afraid to shut off that spig got of credit even if it may damage the broader economy. they don't want to be the person accused of saying i'm going to be the person who doesn't let low income people have housing limits. maybe people wouldn't need to get credit from the federal government if prices were relltil sane and they just refuse to deal with them and that's a huge indictment i think of the financial reform. host: a couple more calls. ricky, independent. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span. i'm calling because you are a very smart man and intelligent. one problem is when you ask him about this health care passage, if it's going to be a failure or a success. he doesn't come right away to say it's a failure without giving the health care chance to work. just like saying that the pregnant woman is going to have a boy or a girl without a sonogr