the goal of the lightspeed program, just to be clear, is we try to get people to learn a certain set of skills in the program. the feedback that what they're working on really is a good idea and something they should do, and in a couple cases people have dropped out. we've also had people continue their company while in school the following here. that's happened a few times, actually. >> primarily stanford students? just based on proximity. >> berkeley, stanford, carnegie mellon, m.i.t., harvard, princeton. it's actually grown. we had over 300 applications this year for seven, eight spots. >> the kid that's going to apply next year, what are you looking for? is it viable product? not necessarily. because they don't know if it's a viable product. that's the whole point. >> entrepreneurs are born, not made in my opinion. they're problem solvers. so how many problems have you been exposed to when you're 20 years old? couldn't get a date -- >> could a kid come out of university of -- i can't think of a good -- st. louis or something we don't think of as being entrepreneurial and certainly