countries likeo china, more than 50% of users are still using windows xp. was reading data from microsoft outlook my mind. in the last 10 years, in china, 70% of the users never supply and security update or windows xp. the real threat we are facing is not that microsoft is ending support, it's about the laziness and stupidity of users. >> lazy and stupid users could suffer. i have this image of hundreds of hackers in eastern europe and gettinga rest ready to attack because of the vulnerability. >> they have been doing that for years. low usually go for the hanging fruit. microsoft is not updating the patches. >> with atm's, could they hack the money out of atm's? thanks put in security measures and usually the atm's are not connected to the internet. who is most at risk? themselvesy, users and small and medium companies that don't have the resources to up eight -- upgrade to new security. >> one thing we see is bigger attacks at bigger targets and ways we have not seen before. are we likely to see more of those because of this? is it that the people who ar