else have them set up where it's always turned on like alwa ys turned on like para lways turn ed on likethat ring bell for access the reason is so people don't play with them, so kids don't play with them or kids don't get injured. in all the years i have been doing this i have yet to hear of a kid being injured or somebody really playing with these. they are slow, noisy, they call attention to themselves. for the most part they are going to leave them alone. they are so noisy you can't get away with anything. . >> and they are not inherently dangerous. somebody can't get caught underneath the platform. >> it won't operate until the door is closed and the little microswitch is under the platform. and they provide access. what does one of these cost; do you know? . >> they are about 20,000 last time i priced one out. >> in a case like this there is no reasonable way to put a ramp in. this was the way to provide access. >> i just want to clarify if a chair lift, the one that elevates along a stair, is ever acceptable. >> oh, yeah, chair lifts are acceptable in some uses. there is some on-going