lillian mcewen is that person. a former federal prosecutor, administrative judge and council to the senate judiciary committee. this is her first and only network, prime time interview. silent all these years, lillian, you could have been a valuable edition to those hearings, why not? >> i was not subpoenaed by either side. >> did they know about you? >> yes. >> both sides? >> yes. >> larry: well, obviously, judge thomas's side wasn't going to subpoena you to appear, right? that would not have been in their best interests? >> i don't know. >> larry: joe biden was head of the senate committee, right? >> yes. >> larry: what was the reason for not hearing your story? >> i don't know. >> larry: they just rejected it? >> what i asked clarence about was, what position should i take in reference to any reporters who wanted to talk to me or anything that he wanted to emphasize as far as my relationship with him was concerned. his response to me was the position his first wife had taken, kathy, was fine with him. which said

last week thomas' former lover, lawyer and administrative law judge, lillian mcewen, confirmed hill's testimony and said indeed aren thos made sexl advances toward many women in the workplace and was fixated on pornography with a large, personal collection. some media luminaries, like the washington post's richard cohen, are saying enough already. others question whether mcewen public comments along with other evidence now prove thomas lied to the senate judiciary committee and hill told the truth. so, we have pretty widespread confirmation that anita hill was not lying, and in fact now justice thomas lied under oath quack then to the senate judiciary committee. so, who owes who an apology here? >> i think, bonnie, with everything that is going on in society today, people losing jobs, living from paycheck to paycheck a lot of people -- i was in college. weep were glued to the television set when that was going on. it was very exciting. but after president clinton and monica lewinsky, people don't care. so who owes who an apology? i think most americans just want to put this behind us.