. >> my best example of that conversation is the lilly ledbetter case. >> rose: tell me about it. lilly ledbetter was an area manager at a goodyear tire plant, one of very few women doing that kind of work. one day, she found in her mailbox a slip of paper with a series of numbers. the numbers were the compensation received by other area managers. lilly's pay was at the very bottom. a young man who had very recently come on board was earning more than she was. so she begin a lawsuit under title 7, which is our principal anti-employment discrimination law, and she did that well. she got a nice jury verdict. but her case came to this court, the majority, five-member majority said she sued too late. how could that be? >> rose: a procedural question. >> yes. it's the timing. what they relied on was a provision that said the person complaining of discrimination in employment must complain within 180 days of the discriminatory event. and lilly had been working at this job for over a decade, far too late, far longer than 180 days. my view of the case was every paycheck she receives renew

the first law was the lilly ledbetter ball. how much progress have you made?> it has made a difference. women were earning $.70 on the dollar. substantially less for women of color. now we are all the way up to 80%. of of it was a statue limitations. until you knew you were being discriminated against. the case of lily, she was paid unfairly for decades. this to beating data to us. so they can see for themselves whether there is equal pay. look at the structural and retaining women in the workplace and then doing something about them. we had a panel here today on bloomberg talking about families and the younger generation of workers we know so well are from theirore workplace. if you want to not just attract but keep the talent, these are issues you have to tackle. resistance from this saying there is more regulation that will stifle growth. >> employers have looked at the data and have seen the results. now you see it among the fortune 500 companies. we are seeing the return on investment. this is not intended to be regulation coming down from the white house

he voted seven times to raise his own pay but against raising the minimum wage and against the lilly ledbetter fair pay act and fairness act that doesn't help north carolina families and certainly north carolina women. most of the people running the minimum wage are the women working two or three jobs and most of the families rely on a woman's paycheck to make ends meet. you can count on me to stick up for the north carolina families. >> moderator: mr. burr? >> burr: the facts are i never voted for a pay raise. every opportunity to vote for a pay raise in the united states by voted against. as a matter of fact i've altered bills, and one of them that i was a cosponsor of in 2009 is the reason that we don't have a pay increase since 2009 the point i went off of the amendment, harry reid didn't let it come out an up and democratsd the pay of congress. >> moderator: on the issue of immigration a year ago governor mccoury signed the law that prohibits any county municipality from blocking local law enforcement to cooperate with federal officials. you obviously support comprehensive immigration ref

but voted against raising the minimum wage and voted against the lilly ledbetter fair pay act and therness paycheck act. that doesn't help north carolina families and it certainly doesn't help north carolina women. most of the people earning minimum wage are women working two or three jobs. most of our families rely on those paychecks to make ends meet. you can count on me to stick up for north carolina families. senator burr: [sigh] jonathan, the fact is i've never voted for a pay raise. every opportunity for a pay raise in the united states senate or house, i voted against. as a matter of fact, i have authored bills. one of them that i was a cosponsor on in 2009 is the reason that we haven't had a pay increase since the reality is, 2009. when i went off the amendment prior to that, harry reid did not let it come up. it is democrats who have raised the pay of congress. jonathan: ms. ross, on the issue of immigration, a year ago, governor mccoury signed the sanctuary cities law that block -- you support comprehensive immigration reform. but until or unless that passes, do you support

i support paycheck equity for women and the lilly ledbetter pay act. george allen has refused to support it. i support family medical leave. george allen repeatedly voted against it. i stand against ultrasound legislation, personhood legislation, and efforts to take away women's rights to receive fromaceptive coverage their workplace. you cannot have a strong economy for women if you take their choices away. >> again, style and substance. what did you hear? tim kaine has a great gift for being able to absorb vast quantities of complex information, giving it careful consideration, and then sharing it with a comparatively uninformed audience. it's a skill he developed and refined as a litigator in richmond. he is good at tailoring his message to his audience. he knows what words and phrases to use. listeningeresting to that clip because tim kaine as a catholic opposes abortion but he is very forceful in his support of abortion rights. i think that speaks to the political nature of his personality. he is gentle, educated, and there is a tendency within th

mccain and i disagreed recently when the supreme court made it more difficult for a woman named lilly ledbetter to press her claim for pay discrimination. for years, she had been getting paid less than a man had been paid for doing the exact same job. and when she brought a suit, saying equal pay for equal work, the judges said, well, you know, it's taken you too long to bring this lawsuit, even though she didn't know about it until fairly recently. we tried to overturn it in the senate. i supported that effort to provide better guidance to the courts. john mccain opposed it. i think that it's important for judges to understand that if a woman is out there trying to raise a family, trying to support her family, and is being treated unfairly, then the court has to stand up, if nobody else will. and that's the kind of judge that i want. schieffer: time's up. mccain: obviously, that law waved the statute of limitations, which you could have gone back 20 or 30 years. it was a trial lawyer's dream. let me talk to you about an important aspect of this issue. we have to change the culture of america.

mccain and i disagreed recently when the supreme court made it more difficult for a woman named lilly ledbetter to press her claim for pay discrimination. for years, she had been getting paid less than a man had been paid for doing the exact same job. and when she brought a suit, saying equal pay for equal work, the judges said, well, you know, it's taken you too long to bring this lawsuit, even though she didn't know about it until fairly recently. we tried to overturn it in the senate. i supported that effort to provide better guidance to the courts. john mccain opposed it. i think that it's important for judges to understand that if a woman is out there trying to raise a family, trying to support her family, and is being treated unfairly, then the court has to stand up, if nobody else will. and that's the kind of judge that i want. schieffer: time's up. mccain: obviously, that law waved the statute of limitations, which you could have gone back 20 or 30 years. it was a trial lawyer's dream. let me talk to you about an important aspect of this issue. we have to change the culture of america.

but voted against raising the minimum wage and voted against the lilly ledbetter fair pay act paycheckct.ss that doesn't help north carolina families and it certainly doesn't help north carolina women. most people earning women -- most people earning women -- earning minimum wage are women. you can count on me to stick up for north carolina families. [sigh] burr: jonathan, the fact is i've never voted for a pay raise. as a matter of fact, i have authored bills. one of them that i was a cosponsor on in 2009 is the reason that we don't have -- that we haven't had a pay increase since 2009. the reality is, when i went off the amendment prior to that, harry reid did not let it come up. the democrats raised the pay of congress. jonathan: ms. ross, on the issue of immigration, a year ago, governor mark rory signed the sanctuary cities law that block any municipality. you support comprehensive immigration reform. but until or less that passes, do you support cities that don't want to help the government enforce immigration laws? ms. ross: our immigration system is broken. and congress has not

katherine, i just want to point out that when governor romney's campaign was asked about the lilly ledbetter bill, whether he supported it? he said, "i'll get back to you." and that's not the kind of advocacy that women need in any economy. now, there are some other issues that have a bearing on how women succeed in the workplace. for example, their healthcare. you know a major difference in this campaign is that governor romney feels comfortable having politicians in washington decide the health care choices that women are making. i think that's a mistake. in my health care bill, i said insurance companies need to provide contraceptive coverage to everybody who is insured. because this is not just a -- a health issue, it's an economic issue for women. it makes a difference. this is money out of that family's pocket. governor romney not only opposed it, he suggested that in fact employers should be able to make the decision as to whether or not a woman gets contraception through her insurance coverage. that's not the kind of advocacy that women need. when governor romney says that we should

mccain and i disagreed recently when the supreme court made it more difficult for a woman named lilly ledbettero press her claim for pay discrimination. for years, she had been getting paid less than a man had been paid for doing the exact same job. and when she brought a suit, saying equal pay for equal work, the judges said, well, you know, it's taken you too long to bring this lawsuit, even though she didn't know about it until fairly recently. we tried to overturn it in the senate. i supported that effort to provide federal guidance to the courts. john mccain opposed it. i think that it's important for judges to understand that if a woman is out there trying to raise a family, trying to support her family, and is being treated unfairly, then the court has to stand up, if nobody else will. and that's the kind of judge that i want. schieffer: time's up. mccain: obviously, that law waved the statute of limitations, which you could have gone back 20 or 30 years. it was a trial lawyer's dream. let me talk to you about an important aspect of this issue. we have to change the culture of america. t