. [ applause ] >>> so one of the principal figures of that oral history project is of course lilly mae jackson, really the bedrock 6 the baltimore branch of the naacp, who served for 50 years -- 35. excuse me. that's why i'm here with the experts. so i'll throw it back to dr. scott and ask her to sort of discuss how not just lilly jackson, but the involvement of women in civil rights protests in particular. >> okay. the question actually takes me back to my first studies in undergraduate at stanford when i was working with people making the documentary the eyes on the prize. the first course i took was women in the modern freedom struggle. and i was overwhelmed by the fact how little i knew. when i think about civil rights, i think about martin luther king, i may think of a. phillip randolph, definitely thurgood marsha marshall, but hadn't heard about rosa parks beyond that one incident on the bus. and definitely when you think about traditional history book, you don't learn about lilly carroll jackson, gloria richardson or victoriaed a dams. and one of the things when you're positioning, and