there he is. >> rush limbaugh, i think is a great guy.peak for three hours without a phone call, try doing that sometime. three hours he speaks. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. this guy is unbelievable. >> chris: you've gotten upset with me and some others for saying that president trump listens to you. but let's go back to what we were talking about, last december, vice president pence goes to the republican senate leaders and he says you've got a continuing resolution and the president has authorized me to tell you he's going to sign it. and then you get on the radio and some others get on the radio and the house freedom caucus gets up and they say look, this continuing resolution doesn't have a dime for the wall and he shouldn't sign it in the very next day after they told the senate republican leaders he's going to sign at the president sense i'm changed my mind and you put on the radio that he sent a message directly to you saying i'm not going to sign this bill. so look, i'm not saying that you're

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here is rush limbaugh and trump. >> rush limbaugh, i think he is a great guy. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. i mean, this guy is unbelievable. they don't decide policy. >> but i don't make policy. it's just another effort to continue to try to diminish the president, diminish trump as somebody that doesn't know what he is doing. there isn't anybody doing what i do that has a thing to do with actually making policy for this president. >> i mean, the problem for the president is he's, you know, a one-note band. he always plays to his base, but at the end of the day, he is not in the middle of a republican primary election right now. see supposed to be governing. >> a one-note band or more embarrassingly milli vanilli and he is performing these songs? >> it's before my time, ari. >> tal, can i fill you in for the milli vanilli? >> i'm here for you. i think rush limbaugh is being a little glib here. does anyone think that he is sitting in the west wing, scribbling on a piece of paper, coming up with policy ideas? no. but that's n

a lot of the president's other allies or right wing voices, sean hannity, rush limbaugh, et cetera, areis corner, continuing support throughout this. rush limbaugh's been on the radio in the past few minutes, all of this, the democrats and the republicans, the compromise, the spending deal, all of this is designed to get trump supporters demoralized. when in doubt, they always come back to president trump. that is why this is the pro trump media in action. and, of course, the president hears all of this, he focuses more on his base, in a way, sean hannity, rush limbaugh, these guys, they are trump's wall of support in the media. >> i thought it was an extraordinary moment. he just sort of started going through them. >> yes, he started ticking them off. praising laura ingram. the mention of laura ingram stood out to me, she's been tough on him, saying this is a fiasco, this budget compromise. there are voices on fox that have been pushing the president to take a harder stand. but at the end of the day, they accept what has happened and they support him, they mostly be grudgingly continue

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy.o can speak for three hours without a phone call. try doing that sometime. for three hours he speaks. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. >> here's the problem. again, i don't blame rush limbaugh. i don't blame sean hannity. they've got a constituency and know how to work it. the president should have a different constituency. it's not rush limbaugh's audience, although that's part of it. it should be much broader than that. he's governor the country, not the radio shows or television audiences. that's ultimately going to be his undoing for the re-elect. at some point you've got to broaden the base. when bush was elected. okay, we got to elect him with 43% of the hispanic vote. in order to get elected we got to get more. you got to grow the pie, not shrink it. >> you said something, they know how to work it. listen, you can't blame rush limbaugh for that. are they using him? >> oh, hell yeah. of course they are. >> do you think he knows he's been used? ma

he mentioned rush limbaugh. he mentioned sean hannity, but in the end he may be diverting funds that would otherwise be used for legitimate military purposes. i want to just play for you quickly what donald trump said about why he would to that. >> we had certain funds that are being used at the discretion o generals, at the discretion of the military. some of them haven't been allocated yet, and some of the generals think that this is more important. i was speaking to a couple of them. they think this is far more important than what they were going to use it for. i said, what were you going to use it for? i won't go into details, but didn't sound too important to me. >> congressman, that sounds weird. you've been down to the border. i haven't spoken to any generals who suggest that the things that they're doing with their money would be less useful than spending it on a border wall. this is f-35 training. this is real construction work at bases. this is -- this is kind of hard to believe what the president just

. >> that conservative commentator is rush limbaugh who told his listeners if the president signs a billt allocates less than $5.7 billion he demanded for the wallet cannot be looked at as a defeat. in fact just the opposite. watch. >> anything that happens that solidifies and cements that effort, the president can portray as a win, always hold out a declaration of a national emergency, getting the rest of it built and so forth. >> limbaugh gave the president his blessing while he cited poll numbers from rasmussen which is an outlier showing that shutting down the government again would be politically beneficial to the president again but limbaugh went on to say there is no way the president caved on the premise of controlling illegal immigration, tell that to and coulter who ripped the president calling the compromise the president's yellow new deal quoting trump talks a big game on the border wall but it is increasingly clear he is afraid to fight for it. a few weeks ago when the president of monica struck a deal to end the partial government shutdown she called donald trump a wimp, th

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conservative commentator rush limbaugh says good luck with that. >> nancy pelosi and these others, cuomo there, they have been shellshocked, no idea, they don't even know how radically stupid these young millennial democrats are. i find it comically hilarious. >> on monday, presidents' day donald trump will miami to talk about venezuelan socialist policies and breakdown and move the ball forward on getting north korea to denuclearize. and another face-to-face meeting with rashida tlaib. the president today says he's getting credit overseas. >> i think i can say this. prime minister abe of japan gave me the most beautiful copy of a letter that he sent to the people, a thing called a nobel prize, many other people feel that way too. >> the suggestion that shinzo abe nominated him for the nobel peace prize for opening a dialogue on the korean peninsula. we've not been able to confirm that but president obama was awarded the prize months into his first term, before he ever took office for fostering a new climate in international relations. duringible shooting outside of chicago. our thoughts

radio and a battery and you can listen to limbaugh forever. it's really just brainwashing, and they lead to trump getting elected. i just think we need to have something like the fairness doctrine to get out the information on public airwaves. host: was there ever concerned when you worked at the obama administration and counterterrorism about the influence of domestic actors and the effects they could have on dissidents and division within our country? caller: -- guest: there was a sense of a domestic component to terrorism. it's not just something that happens from abroad. host: not saying that rush limbaugh is acting as a terrorist. guest: no, real terrorists out there. and there are those that consider whether they want to go down that road, whether they are so politically agitated that violence becomes an option. closedppens in these ecosystems that we have now, rather than what we had decades ago, is that if you are on that radicalization path, it's much easier to hear things that confirm where you are already headed. we have seen that w

but whether that satisfies the president, or maybe morely importawhether that satisfies rush limbaugh, i don't know. and that shouldn't ber the stan i am concerned that the president may declare an emergency, which tnk is ultimately, would be struck down by the courts. >> what will you do if he declares a national emergency? >> i think there will be a resolution of disapproval on the congress. and they're already public reports that mitch mcconnell has privately warned the president that he will lose likely a lot ofhis members in those votes, if he takes this action, which is i think anti-thetical to our democr system. if in a ten-year debate over immigration, and a situation with congress has considered a president's request, but refused it, were to be considered somehow an emergency, we would be in a constant state of emereency. tould be no need for a congress. so i think it is about the poorest case you could for an emergency. >> i also wanted to ask you about president trump's nomination of daviburnhart, a former energy industry lobbyist, to be the interio department's next secret

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so's listen to rush limbaugh on all this. >> i think it's embarrassing. 1.375 billion, 1.6 billion, i think it's embarrassing, particularly when the president's original ask for border wall was something like $20li billion. if he sign it is primarily, it's going to be to avoid another government shutdown. you are operating under an entirely different set of rules with your voters. most ofte your people are happy when the government gets shut down. >> what percent of this decision rests on president hannity, on secretary of homeland security limbaugh and the rest of it? >> the fox cabinet? 70, 80, 90%? trump is a wildly insecure narcissist who cannot deal with watching tvt and seeing right-wing media criticize him. it's deja vu. we're back to december. everyone thought they had a deal until he watchedha the media. he said we're going to have a pointlessav 35-day shutdown. >> what you said is understood by political journalists and by conservative media. do you think around the country people understand what you just said, which is chilling? >> no, because i think the traditional narrat

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. for three hours without a phone call, try doing that for some time. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. >> well, here's the problem, again, i don't blame rush limbaugh, i don't blame sean hannity. they've got a constituency, they know how to work it. the president should have a different constituency. it's not rush limbaugh's audience, although, that's part of it. it should be much broader than that. he's governing the country, not those television show audiences. i think that's ultimately going to be his undoing. you got to broaden the base. when bush was elected, we got elected with 43% of the hispanic growt vote, we got to get more. >> are they using him? >> yes. of course they are. >> do you think he knows he's being used? does he realize how badly he's being playing. >> it's totally mutually beneficial. when the younger mer docks came in, there was initially right as the president was elected, there was a moment where there would be a different kind

it was not rush limbaugh's idea. it was not ann coulter's idea.hey seem more married to it than the author of the idea, donald trump. >> yeah, what a surprise that donald trump didn't have firm principles. but they didn't push him into this cul-de-sac, they basically, you know, trapped him on this particular wall. so we have a really fascinating moment, because so far, donald trump has been very, very reluctant to disappoint the right wing media. but as you pointed out earlier, he doesn't have an option. he's out of cards. mitch mcconnell is going to have a vote on this. and republicans have basically decided, you know, we have gone to the mat for you over and over again but we're not doing it for your fake wall. we're not going to shut the government down. and so you do have the conservative media which by the way is right that this is a humiliating surrender, i mean, it is humiliating for the president, they're going to get back in line, and now we're going to have to enter the emperor's new clothes phase of all of this where donald trump, who d

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy.k for three hours without a phone call. try doing that some time. laura's been great. laura ingraham. tucker carlson's been great. >> it's true what he said about rush. it's hard to talk for three hours without taking calls. several notable moments during trump's meandering speech today. >> i'll sign the final papers as soon as i get into the oval office, and we will have a national emergency and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the ninth circuit. even though it shouldn't be there. and we will possibly get a bad ruling. and then we'll get another bad ruling. and then we'll end up in the supreme court. and hopefully we'll get a fair shake. and we'll win in the supreme court. >> did his brain break there? what -- what was going on? that was weird. but if you are an avid viewer of a certain cable news program, the president's words probably sounded very familiar. >> i'll sign the final papers as soon as i get into the oval office and we will have a national emergency. >> the

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy.a guy that can speak for three hours without a phone call. try doing that some time. ann coulter, i don't know her. i hardly know her. i haven't spoken to her in way over a year. i like her. but she's off the reservation. you're cnn, you're fake news. you have an agenda. this administration does a tremendous job and we don't get credit for it. he had rocket ships and missiles flying over japan and they had alarms going off. you know that. now all of a sudden they feel good, they feel safe. i did that. my button is bigger than yours and my button works, remember that? and people said trump is crazy. >> wait. because she said it better than i can. here's ann coulter. >> more than any other, other presidential mandate in the history of the nation, trump's mandate was to build a wall up. no one thought oh, look, he was governor of the biggest state in the union. he was -- he used to run the cia. he was reagan's vice president. he was, you know, he was fdr's. no, it was one thing, the promi

i think rush limbaugh's sign-off is key for him. for and i don't think he wants to get into another government shutdown. a national emergency is constitutionally questionable. he have risks a rebuke from congress including republicans in the senate. >> sandra: i want to put this out there. the reporting from the white house, john roberts said the president is in no hurry to sign this border security legislation. but there are indications that he is getting that he is expected to sign that border security legislation and here is senator lindsey graham a short time ago in the halls of congress with the likelihood of the president signing this. listen. >> i spoke to him last night. there is a lot of ifing going on. if you can spend the money on barriers as he would like in places he would like. and if there is no real cap on detention bed space for violent criminals, i think the president is inclined to accept the agreement. >> bill: this is a fast-moving story. "wall street journal" earlier this morning declaring border victory. bipar

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i don't always agree with rush limbaugh but he couldn't be more right here. the president should declare a national emergency because it is and let the democrats argue it is not. talk about why they don't want to secure the border and we do. it is a great issue for 2019-2020. a legitimate national security issue and we would the idiot is republicans not to support donald trump to try to build this wall any way he can legally and he has the authority as president to declare a national emergency, money is available to them in the current budget to move around and help build the wall. we would be stupid as a party not to stand behind him. can't think of a better issue than this. shannon: we will see is this plays out in coming days whether it gets to the president's desk to see where the money comes from, great to have you with us. this is a fox news alert, a federal judge ruling donald trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort intentionally lied to investigators, special counsel prosecutors are on the record saying this goes to the heart of the mueller pr

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he has to fight courts over this or not, it protects him from the likes of ann coulter and rush limbaughhat he didn't really try. >> absolutely. the point is to prove for his base he did all he could to make it happen and it has seemed for weeks like the emergency order was the only logical off ramp that white house has been moving towards. it's been weeks that they've been going to agencies trying to find pots of money. my sources say they're looking for other potential options, maybe some other pot of money. >> is there a pot of money in authorized funding right now? he says he's got money. >> at this point it seems the most realistic option is to declare a national emrjsancy. of course it will be immediately challenged. you heard him basically wijing and suggesting he may make an announcement during the state of the union speech. >> i think he likes fireworks. your sense of trump and what he's up to and then we'll get to whether he should do it or not. do you think he's actually going to declare a national emergency like president dooz when they have to and says i want my wall. >> thi

i think the rest of his amen c chorus, sean hannity and probably limbaugh will go along with this andnd he's going to be able to build the wall with this emergency declaration, which i don't think he's going to be able to do. i think it is going to be challenged probably in court, probably with a resolution of disapproval that would originate in the house and have to be voted on in the senate. and tied up for years. and as you said earlier, he'll claim that he's being stopped from defending you against these rapists and ms-13 members by the liberal courts and the dastardly democrats and this and that and that will be his big theme in the campaign. >> and john podhoretz, i'm curious what your thoughts are about the trajectory of donald trump's political fortunes over the past couple weeks, two, three weeks ago i would have put his chances at getting re-elected at maybe 10%, maybe 15%. you don't get re-elected when you bounce between 35 and 40%, 41, 42%. you just don't. but i must say, you look at the sorry performance of some democrats on capitol hill, in virginia, you look at the blac

is he talking to rush limbaugh? whose tlr boss?> i think joy's right. 12 or 13% on election day 2016 through a whole series of circumstances. i think, to me i think we have to see the world to some extent the way trump sees it and i firmly believe that all of us here think off a night like this and it was the chapter in the woodrow wilson story. he reinstituted the state of the union, going to the house. this is the podium from which franklin roosevelt declared war and linden johnson said we shall overcome. for president trump, this is a season premier of a new show. and he sees this as reality television. he doesn't see it as reality. and i think if we don't get inside his head a little bit we're going to be playing by one set of rules while he plays by another. >> how will donald trump acknowledge speaker pelosi tonight? in 2007 when she became the first female, woman speaker of the house, then president george w. bush honored the significance of the moment during his state of the union. >> tonight i have the high privilege disti

. >> rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. he can speak for three hours without a phone call. try doing that sometime. >> ann coulter, i don't know her. i hardly know her. i haven't spoken to her in way over a year. >> i like her. but she's off the reservation. >> you're cnn, you're fake news. you have an agenda. >> this administration does a tremendous job and we don't get credit for it. >> he had rocket ships and he had missiles flying over japan. and they had alarms going off. you know that. now all of a sudden they feel good. they feel safe. i did that. >> my button is bigger than yours and my button works, remember that? and people said trump is crazy >> i mean those are some of the real gems that he dropped the other day. he's like, all over the place. i have to ask you, are republicans thinking of giving him a primary? i mean, don't some republicans say that his of any kind moving in areas that republicans don't usually agree, deficit's going up, up, up, as well as the abuse of executive power in the judgment of many, as well as all these investigations, many of his clo

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. he can speak for three hours without a phone call. he has cut one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. this guy is unbelievable. try speaking for three hours without taking calls. taking calls is easy. hours and hehree has got an audience that is fantastic. they don't decide policy. , and coulterosite i don't know her but the press loves saying ann coulter. i just the time to speak to her. i would, i have nothing against her.i like her for one reason . when they asked her at the beginning who is going to win the election, she said donald trump. the two people that after that question smiled and said, you are kidding, aren't you? she said nope. i liked her. shoes off the reservation, but anyone who knows her nose that. the press loves to bring up the name ann coulter. i think she is fine and good but i just don't be to her. laura anger has been great -- laura ingram has been great. dr. carlson has been great. i had some on msnbc the other day that a report on me and i said, where the hell did that come from? the crazy

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy.urs and he's got an audience that's fantastic. >> do they decide policy, sir? >> they don't decide policy. >> your take on this? >> they influence the president, they influence policy. they influenced his decision to get the government shutdown at the beginning of the year. hannity, limbaugh, these voices are influential to the president. we are in this world, it's very much a fox news government. and we are here to see that on a daily basis, even though the president tries to downplay that fact. >> brian stelter thank you so much. >> he's a former border patrol chief. mark, thanks for being with us. your reaction to the president declaring a national emergency. >> from my experience as a law enforcement and border security aspect. not from some political ideology right or left. in my opinion, the president had no choice. congress has failed. they continue to fail, this bill was a failure with respect to doing what the men and women, the experts who have the tools and assets they need.

the president retweeted something rush limbaugh said, saying, these guys, the investigators, ought to be in jail. i think that's kind of remarkable. the president of the united states retweeting somebody who says, investigators, fbi investigating what most people thought was a legitimate line of inquiry, should be in jail for doing the things they thought they were doing in the interest of protecting the united states. >> you are watching a fundamental attack on the constitution of the united states. these people on the far-right, rush limbaugh, the ann coulters, the sean hannitys, everyone that is giving donald trump his ideas that he should become a fascist dictator, that he should become king george iv, you know, and he should declare, you know, separation from the american experiment and just start acting like a third world potentate, they do not represent what the nation is. they are asking him to destroy the fabric of the united states. donald trump can't handle the truth, to paraphrase a movie. none of the republicans appear to be able to want to find the truth because the trut

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. ann coulter, i don't know her. i hardly know her. i haven't spoken to her in way over a year. but the press loves saying ann coulter. probably if i did speak to her she'd be very nice. i like her. but she's off the reservation, but anybody that knows her understands that. >> there's a lot of department of homeland security data out there that shows border crossings at a near record low. >> that's because of us. >> undocumented immigrants and crime -- >> excuse me, massive numbers of crossings. >> it shows undocumented criminals or undocumented immigrants committing crime than native born americans. >> do you really believe that stat? take a look at our federal prisons. >> i'm asking you to clarify where you get your numbers, because most of the dea crime reporting statistics that we see show that drugs are coming across at the ports of entry, that illegal immigration is down, and the violence is down. so what do you base your facts on? >> let's go -- >> and secondly -- >> no, no, you get one. you get one. the question is -- sit down.

. >> well, satisfying rush limbaugh and making sure you have a political trophy is not a national emergencyidiculous. he will face problems in the congress and he will face problems in the court. because the congress, i'm confident, will take up a resolution of disapproval once the house does it the senate must do it. you heard so many republicans in the run-up to this most recent invented crisis of the president say you should not to do this. republicans have done this. so once you pass it, the resolution of disapproval in the house, it will go to the senate. and those republicans in the senate who said he should not this, this will be a put up and shut up moment for them. and, again, i have no doubt that this will then go to the courts and, again, justifying a national emergency because rush limbaugh is chattering in your ear, that's just not the definition of a national emergency. this is ridiculous. but he's got to satisfy his base and scratch that itch. >> chairman tom perez, thank you very much for sharing all the detaid details and more with us. >> thank you. >>> senator amy klobucha

the rush limbaugh's and ann coulters are.k in to the speaker of the house chambers. she showed she is not only defiant but she is using every quiver in her arrow. it's the antithesis of the statue of liberty, it goes against our values. he is trying to find a loophole of how to get himself out of that, whiem at the same time pasifying his base >> it's chris hayes. i interviewed congress members all week and the way we're going to solve the problem is reopen the government and let adult -- >> what are you trying to say? >> i saw the firs day a lot of good faith and ultimately will come down to is there some sort of face-saving fiction that can be put in what the conference committee eproduces that president can call a wall? am i wrong that's what it's going to end up being the final question? >> that's right. and one of the things i recommended is to provide this tiech of leeway so the president can demonstrate you're going to get some sort of funding. it doesn't have to go per se to the wall because most professionals agree w

. >> shannon: here's what rush limbaugh says. republicans of said they are not down with the national emergency. >> if they have to declare a national emergency and go through the courts and have the democrats go through the motions of trying to stop it, that all the better. let the democrats demonstrate as often and loudly as they can that they do not want border security. >> [laughs] >> shannon: you know that they are going to find a friendly judge. >> from a republican point of view, rush is right. i don't always agree with rush limbaugh but he couldn't be more right here. the president should declare a national emergency because it is, and that the democrats argue that it's not. talk about why they don't want to secure the border and we do. it's a great issue for 2019 and 2020. it's a legitimate national security issue, and we would be idiots as republicans not to support donald trump to try to build this wall anyway he can legally, and he has the authority as president to declare a national emergency. there are monies availa

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that's scary. >> and we know he's so sensitive to what people like ann coulter and rush limbaugh thinkthose aren't necessarily the people who represent trump's voter base. we saw how he was able to shift away from the c.r. he was going to sign which perpetuated the shutdown. but the president is in such a tight box here. he has not worked at all to expand his base while he's been in office, despite what we might hear from the state of the union. the ones who chanted "build that wall" at every one of his rallies and he doesn't want to upset them. >> joy, i'm getting your drift, but i want to know more here. >> if you were ready for the french news or reuters or tokyo news or whatever, and you had to explain a phenomenon that can tell the president what to do and her name is ann coulter. how would you explain her power? >> he is beholden to her because he understands what motivates hez voters is nativism, and she represents them. and donald trump might want to be an autocrat but he's not capable of getting anything through congress that republicans don't already want. tax cuts, right win

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. they don't decide policy. >> now, as ever we asked the white house and other administration officials to join us here and member of trump's mar-a-lago club. he often dines with the president. he's joining me now from boca roton, florida. >> great being back with you. >> i said you're a member of the kitchen cabinet, so to speak. in fact, you were with him this weekend. so i want to ask you how he's reacting to some of the backlash. you heard what he just said in our clip about rush limbaugh and sean hannity. but it looks like conservatives are sort of split on this national emergency business. >> well, a couple of things. first let me say i don't speak for the president. full disclosure i support the president generally on most policies although we have some disagreements on a few things. and i think he's doing a fantastic job. and the border security issue, and he and i chatted about this this weekend, has been a winning issue for him. you know, so many people in the media, they live

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy.a guy that can speak for three hours without a phone call. try doing that sometime. for three hours he speaks. he's got one of the biggest audiences in the history of the world. i mean, this guy is unbelievable. try speaking for three hours without taking calls. taking calls is easy. "okay, i'll answer this one, i'll answer that one." he goes for three hours, and he's got an audience that's fantastic. >> seth: my god, that answer took three hours. [ laughter ] also, if he's talking for three hours without taking calls, maybe nobody's calling him. [ laughter ] "we're gonna open the phone line!" [ applause ] and even if you put aside the chaos this is causing here at home, it definitely seems like all of this is hurting our image around the world, too. vice president mike pence discovered that over the weekend, when he mentioned president trump in a speech in munich. he clearly thought it was going to be an applause line and it definitely was not. >> i bring greetings from the 45th presi

rush limbaugh, i think he's a great guy. ann coulter, i hardly know her, i haven't spoken to her in way over a year. but the press loves saying ann coulter. probably if i did speak to her, she would be very nice. i like her. but she's off the reservation. but anybody that knows her, understands that. >> kelly, what did you make of his response to you? >> i wanted to ask him about it because we know that republicans from capitol hill were advising him against it, so how did we get here? and we saw so much pressure being put on the president through tweets and comments and the audiences that those conservative influencers have. and then at times it seems like the president sort of tacks in their direction. i was curious if he would expound on it. once i handed back the mike, there was another moment where i sort of shouted out to the president, "but should they be making policy?" he disputed, saying they are not setting policy. i think that is something that is worth looking at and worthy of debate, is the president influenced

i mean, we could hear rush limbaugh or any of these people saying things tomorrow that roger stone hassay. >> right. and look, i think that would be covered under this very well-crafted -- broad but well-crafted order if it can be shown that he actually asked them to say it. right? obviously, rush limbaugh giving his opinion wouldn't count, but if it became clear that stone told him to. as ron says, the judge has set this up perfectly. she could have landed him today, but that would have fed into this narrative of making him a martyr. it would have been debatable. now it is set up. it is clear. he knows the terms. i mean, the chances that he's not going to violate this i think are very small. and once he does she has basically already said i'm putting you in jail. and there really can't be any question about whether that is fair at this point, which i think is something she is striving, you know, clearly in all of these court cases to show, that she is tough but fair. and she's giving everyone their fair shot. and stone is already blowing it like manafort did. >> and ron, last night's

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if you listen to rush limbaugh, sean hannity, they are saying declare a national emergency.most of these viewers and listeners? people who support donald trump. they will hear the echber think, you know what, the president's standing up for us and trying to make america great again. jane: ron christie, thank you for joining me. ron: pleasure. jane: cuba has accused the u.s. of secretly moving troops in a military effort to depose venezuelan president nicolas maduro. the trump administration has backed his rival, juanuaido, who has declared himself interim president. tension is mounting on t border with colombia, where forces loyal to maduro have blocked a convoy of aid. from caracas, our international corrrts. riorla: woven into the fc ofre the socialisvolution, the ofnezuelan military. key to the surviva the maduro regime and hard to penetrate. akfew soldiers dare to speut for fear of being jailed. so have told us there is growing unrest in the ranks. we met a sergeant who has been in uniform for 30 years. for his own protection, he asked us not to show hisace. he told us h

the sim pitical of the -- sim blimp of the wall.ho low is he prepared to go and still say to rush limbaugh and others saying here's what i rtpromised. ro what about republicans on capitol hill? they don't don't want another shutdown. katty: please done shut wn and ease don't declare a national emergency. people realize the shutdown is killing him. katty: katty brought uphe national emergency. he's been dweeting about a so-called huma wall, sending more troops to the border. national ring security emergency. what do you talk about on the border? >> they want a solution, not t necessaril form of a wall. walls work in some places. it doesn't work everywhere.e resident himself has been shown that evidence in some of these befings. wher the common ground existed and i've talked to some members on this bipartisan commissio ere is common ground. they could hammer it out in a y moment if t wanted to. they need to be able to give the president the cover to be able to go back to his base and say i secured the border. even if it's not a concrete sea to shining see wall. nt saw republican mn of that c