lincoln knew that. he had to speak to his half and assure them for people that are tone deaf. >> he was speaking about the south but he was really speaking to the north. >> absolutely. she won a 40% of the popular vote in the north. remember he got 2% in the south, that was challenge number one making sure that he was a voluble in the north in order to sustain his surviving in becoming the president. >> do you think that was coming up from their role to give him the spine as well in pushing forward the press and the politicians and others were pushing and he was pro-active in this. she was okay, they were all over the place, and seward was a leading advocate for compromise. this man considered more radical than lincoln couldn't be the nominee because he was antislavery. he's always telling lincoln give them all these concessions he would instruct seward to hold the line and getting it is just remarkable to make the parallels in the latter day judgments but here is the guy with the least experience of an

lincoln seems like the rest of us. he seems a guy that struggles, a guy that loses more elections than he wins and a guy that gets down on the ground with his son and unlike george washington, this regular man that struggles with things so many of us struggle with, one of the great presidents. >> one of the great presidents. not the greatest looking are president in our history. because the camera wasn't around, it made it a little bit easier to get him elected. >> here's what "time" magazine editor at large, a lincoln expert himself writes in the latest issue as well, lincoln understood even in times of extreme polarization, the moderate center is the path to presidential success, was then and is now even as he felt his way on the tightrope, lincoln kept his eyes on the public on the shore beyond. americans have always been a future oriented people and our most admire presidents have been the ones who painted tomorrow in bright colors no matter how grim today. franklin d. roosevelt, john f. kennedy, ronald reagan all

estimate how the death of willie lincoln any action 62 affected lincoln, and about how the holding a seance in the white house. do you have anything to say about that? >> i think what happened with the death of willie lincoln, it showed in some ways the two different paths that mary and abraham or moving on once they got into the white house because. because the white house they have been somewhat partners in the political ambition. she had been helpful, she loved to talk about politics even though he was on a lot of the time they have the children to share and they have this political life together. once they became president, however, there was very little she could share with them. in the sense of the time he spent with them and the relaxation time with them, the intimacy that he exchanged even to the point is holding friends when they were waiting for the telegram to come to read the had a difficult time in the white house being a woman having not found what she wanted to do, making those decisions about making the white house beautiful that letter to criticism but there was no e

could've had a v8. >>> lincoln, lincoln, lincoln, lincoln. >> lincoln is the toast of hollywood, leadinginations announced this morning. the drama features the 16th president of the united states focusing on his struggle to legislate at a time when the nation was divided. >> we must cure ourselves of slavery. >> god help us for trapping anyone in a marriage that's only ever given you grief. >> the fate of human dignity is in our hands. let's look forward to this moment now, now, now. >> the timing of lincoln couldn't come at a more interesting time. in just 11 days, president obama will be sworn in for a second term. today, we learned he'll take the oath of office with his hand placed on a bible owned by abraham lincoln. the same one he used the first time around. it's symbolic because president obama has said president lincoln is his favorite. he pronounced his presidency at the same plasz lincoln delivered his speech in 1858. on a day we celebrate lincoln on the big screen, we asked what lessons president obama can take for him for his second term. joining me now is patricia murphy, ed

and speed felt sorry for lincoln, always calmed one another by their last names, speed, and lincoln. speed invited lincoln to work at his general floor, and speed didn't have a place to say, so lincoln let speed stay upstairs, and during the friendship, speed was using the services of a professional woman. okay? and you imagine lincoln upstairs, with a pillow over his head, trying to mind his own business as speed is doing his business. and lincoln basically says to speed, i have to have a woman. it's been too long. and here's what appears to have happened. only abraham lincoln would do this. lincoln asked steve for a letter of introduction with a professional woman, and i don't me agriculture. it was an occupation that predated agriculture. what we have pieced together is lincoln visited the prostitute and he had maybe three dollars with him, which was a lot of money. not eliot spitzer money, but a pretty fair amount of money. and the prostitute apparently charges lincoln five bucks. which was an enormous amount of money. so lincoln says to her, ma'am, i have to tell you, -- honest

i think in virginia you could vote for lincoln. they were all -- southern wing of the democratic party. and during the war, oppositions arose and some of the more profoundly oppose to the dais davis administration on very good grounds that the davis administration was one of the most centralizing federally concentrated power regime of the entirety of american history. one political scientist who looked at this looked at the union government, the structure of the states and the federal government in the union, and the structure of the states and the federal government in the confederacy and said the confederacy was the -- he said the united never had a government that big and top down until the new deal. they succeeded on state rights and had to bill and proceeded to, because they had to build, the enormous central state apparatus. they conscriptedded within a year. i mean, think about that. as a statement of state power. they conscripted wan year. they pass taxes within basically year. and they had agent of the federal government a

her portrayal of mary todd lincoln in steven spielberg's "lincoln." the film, of course, also stars daniel day-lewis and tommy lee jones, and so here now, a scene from "lincoln." ♪ >> you think i am ignorant of what you are up to because you have not discussed it with me? when high -- when have i ever been so easily baffled? i believe you when you insisted that amending the constitution and abolishing slavery would end this war. instead, you're sending my son to war. woe unto you if you fail to pass the amendment. >> he does not want me leaving my big, muddy footprints over town. >> no one has ever lived who knows better than you the proper placement on paths. if you fail to acquire the necessary votes, woe unto you, sir. you will answer to me. tavis: all righty then. i'm trying to juxtapose the clip that we just saw with all the high-quality, award-winning work academy award-winning work that you've done, sally field. if the story is true, you fought really hard for this part. so i raise that because they say that for so many of us, life is a perpetu

tavis: the project, as you know, is called "lincoln" starring daniel day lewis as abraham lincoln and sally field stars as mary todd lincoln, or mother, or molly. i don't need to encourage you to see the film. i think the whole country's waiting on this. i'm honored to have you on this program and i'm delighted in these two nights of conversation. >> this has been so great. you are so wonderful. tavis: you're kind to come on, and thank you for your time. >> thank you. tavis: i appreciate you. that's our show for tonight. thanks for tuning in. until next time, keep the faith. >> for more information on today's show, visit tavis smiley at pbs.org. hi, i'm tavis smiley. join me next time for a conversation with -- we kick off our 10th season with a look back at appearances by barack obama prior to his time at the white house. that is next time. we will see you then. >> there is a saying that dr. king had that said there is always the right time to do the right thing. i just try to live my life every day by doing the right thing. we know that we are only halfway to completely eliminate hu

wins -- that lincoln is on their side, lincoln wants to end slavery, lincoln is going to move against their owners, once he is elected they're feeling that in fact emancipation may have come or when he ising gnawing rate, emancipation is declared but not enforced on the ground, and once the union army invade, this interpretation, which is wrong but nonetheless one of the amazing cases in history where people seem to be so outside the process, understand the meaning of the event better than anybody on the inside and act in a way sort of bring it to reality their imagined sense of the political issues. >> host: how many african-american -- southern african-american slaves fought in the union -- on the union side? did slaves also fight for the confederate states? >> guest: roughly 150,000 southern slaves fought in the union army or navy during the war. about 185,000 african-americans in all at about 80% of them were from the south. there is talk about african-american slaves fighting for the confederacy. there's no evidence for this. there are some slaves hoped up in the confederate army

>> i loved "lincoln."ent to see it. >> everybody loves "lincoln." >> who hasn't seen argo? you heard people say, maybe it was long i'm not into history. "argo," i haven't heard one person say i don't like it. >> seth mcfarland will be joining us. he of course is not only going to be part of the announcement but he will be the host of the show. it will be exciting to talk about whether he's nervous about it. >> that hasn't been done for a long time. i think he's an inspired choice. >> he's certainly an interesting choice. there's a lost pressure there. some people do a great job and some people do not. it will be interesting to talk to him about how he preps for that. joining us this morning, bradley jacobs is the senior editor for "us weekly," tatiana, and comedian jay thomas. "lincoln" everyone is saying is a shoo in. >> anne hathaway will win every award. >> more "les miz." she will have three, four different speeches all hitting sightly different notes. everyone i know has been bowled over by that perfo

lincoln thus came to recognize this reality, and he changed course. and so as you know, he issued his emancipation proclamations, the preliminary one in 1862 and the final one on january 1st of 1863 declaring all slaves this the confederacy to be legally free. lincoln's attitude toward black men serve anything uniform changed under the same pressure. during the first phase of the war, his government categorically rebuffed all attempts by black men to join the fight, to join union armies. but on this question, too, military necessity -- the news for more or soldier -- the need for more soldiers to fight the war ultimately proved more decisive. union policy evolved. it evolved from adamantly excluding blacks in 1861 and 1862 to then recruiting them as soldiers in 1863. and by the end of the war, some 200,000 black soldiers and sailors had served in the union cause. and union policy toward those soldiers and sailors changed too, because at first they were confined almost solely -- speaking of the soldiers -- to noncombat tasks. but their courageous condu

this was handled by abraham lincoln.a quality that pictures and virtual reality will never provide for us, which is -- this makes history real. >> reporter: wendy rieger, news4. >>> amazing that martin luther king bible used for president obama's swearing-in was also imbued with a new history. he granted the king family's request to sign that bible after the ceremony. and shortly before he took the oath of office, the white house released this new official portrait of the president. take a look. the photo was taken december 6th in the oval office. it's quite the contrast compared to the official portrait taken for his first term. back then he wasn't smiling, and his hair is a lot grayer now. some say, hey, that's just evidence of how the stress of the job has aged him. >>> well, it seems virginia isn't the only place for lovers. coming up, we'll tell you why officials in d.c. are encouraging you to get a room. >>> and the first of its kind requirement at a local medical school to help treat wounded [ woman ] ring. ring.

it was saying that lincoln was right when lincoln said that the united states is dedicated to the propositioncreated equal. that was a pretty radical thing that lincoln did. that was not something most americans thought that the constitution was written. as you know, we had slavery. lincoln read that as of forward-looking idea. lou: when he wrote that -- when he wrote that he was standing on the shoulders of those who had founded this nation and you had written the declaration. redneck constitution. equality was fundamental and mps book documents. that country's history, if i may say. professor, we appreciate you -- i'm sorry. very quickly. >> i was going to say, we always had this tension between equality and liberty. i think the speech today was trying to push us in the equality direction. >> liberty. lou: professor, were going to have to bring you back and continue the conversation. much more on inauguration day. we talking with the "a-team" straight ahead. the hostage crisis in the middle of the sahara. more americans confirmed dead. details next. inauguration fiasco. wallow rapper escort

even abraham lincoln. what i thought i would do for the main body of my remarks today is tell you just a couple of my favorite stories, not just about mistresses and history, but more importantly about present a character. don't worry, there are some juicy stories involved. one of them involves our 22nd and 24th president, grover cleveland. now, when grover cleveland was a young man, there was a controversy because cleveland father the child out of wedlock. the woman named maria hellbent from pennsylvania, and she might have been a prostitute. at the least, she was very casual about her relationships. now, cleveland was a bachelor. of course emmy's running in the 80's and again in the 1890's to miss a probably a child of wedlock was seen as a bit to do. and it was such a big to do for other reasons. one was that the republican opponents of cleveland that were backing james g. breen, the republican nominee, and a group of very righteous preachers started a campaign that no woman in the country is safe. lock

abraham lincoln.nd it's only harden who gets in the u.s.-mexico war that some people have argued makes lincoln's path forward and is wrote to the presidency possible because he is really under the shadow of john hardin before that happen. hardens them is fascinating and they are deeply, deeply affected by the u.s.-mexico war. let me tell you about the war, i'm assuming like most people you probably don't know a whole lot about it. the north american invasion as it's known in mexico begin with president james k. polk sent troops into disputed area between the rio grande rivers, with the intention of starting a war. poker wanted war. he was set on declaring war if the mexican army didn't want a debate. the day he found out that mexicans had crossed the rio grande and killed 14 soldiers in the disputed area, polk went to the cabinet and he said, you know, i think we should declare war against mexico. and his cabinet said, well, we really can't declare war because the mexicans haven't done anything. we se

speed, lincoln. speed and that is linking his door and didn't have a place to stay, so what can let speed stay upstairs at the general store. during the friendship, speakers using services of a professional woman. you imagine lincoln upstairs with a pillow over his head trying to mind his own business as speed is doing his business. he basically says that after the woman. it's been too long. on the abraham lincoln would do this. it appears i cannot speak for a letter of introduction. with a professional women. i don't mean agriculture appeared as an occupation that predated our culture. what we have pieced together as lincoln visited the and had maybe $3 with him, which was a lot of money. not eliot spitzer money, but a fair amount of money. he turns lincoln five bucks, which was an enormous amount of money. so lincoln says name, i have to tell you, i can't afford it. i have had $3. she does speed, so there's a possibility comparing it to money. what we know this because lincoln either that in variou

he's from illinois and really cares about lincoln. he's aware of lincoln's famous second inaugural.lso theodore roosevelt, dwight eisenhower, ronald reagan. i look at it more as a form of relaxation for the president when we get to meet him. he gets to chew the fat a lit bit about past presidents. >> doris, you're a presidential expert, how do you rate president obama in the pantheon of great presidents? or just presidents? >> well, you know, when you think about the great presidents, great necessities call forth great leaders. so george washington, abraham lincoln, fdr had a huge crises to face. obama had a pretty big crisis to face. he did accomplish in health care something since presidents since teddy roosevelt have been trying to accomplish. but i think most importantly, we'll see now the fact that he's got a second term, that's really important to embolden him for what he can accomplish, and more importantly, to show that the country supported kurg a very difficult time his leadership and they wanted him back again. so i think he's got a shot. it depends a lot on what happens

i believe lincoln will win most of them because it shows abe lincoln defeating a dysfunctional congressge issue, namely the 13th amendment to abolish slavery. it can be done, but you need a genius like lincoln and that's why the film is going to win everything. we'll be right back. i'm larry kudlow. >> we can't tell our people they can vote yes on abolishing slavery unless at the same time we could tell them that you're seeking a negotiated peace. >> it's either the amendment or this confederate peace, you cannot have both. >> how many hundreds of thousands have died during your administration? >> congress must never declare equal those who god created unequal. >> leave the constitution alone. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big

only abraham lincoln would do this. it appears that he asked for a letter of introduction a professional woman and a double in agriculture. what we have pieced together, lincoln visit the prostitute. he had maybe $3 with him, which was a lot of money. not eliot spitzer money, but a pretty fair amount of money. the prostitute apparently charges lincoln $5 which was an enormous amount of money at the time. lincoln center, ma'am, i have to tell you, on the state, i can't afford it. i only have three. what we know is either because lincoln got embarrassed or his honor get the best of him, but when she said, you can either pay me later or maybe this one is on the house he ran out the door. they say when you visit a prostitute there should always be happy ending. what i thought i would do for my remarks today is tell you a couple of my favorite stories, not just about mistresses and history, but more and partly in the president's character. don't worry, there are some juicy stories involved. one of them involves our 22nd and

i'm referring to "lincoln."he republican party keeps talking on two sides of their face and not being hon west the american people they just don't like this president. but that's one of the reasons why the president recognizes his vacuum when it comes to that leadership. that's why he keeps sending vice president biden down to the congress to the negotiate on his behalf because they just don't like him. >> let's look at the record, maria teresa. speaker boehner has declined invitations to state dinners for each of the following countries, south korea, germany, china, mexico, india, and, of course, great britain. as for republican senate leader mitch mcconnell he turned down invasions for the state dinners of india and china. he even declined to come to the white house then the president was celebrating his home state's college basketball championships. but it's the president's fault that republicans aren't comfortable with him. explain that to me. >> something that may not be well-known is when boehner actually

up next, president obama and his lincoln moment. a febreze experiment.e febreze can keep this car fresh, we loaded it with fast food, sweaty hockey gear, and a smelly dog cage. and parked it at a mall. in texas. for two days. then put a febreze car vent clip on the dash and let in real people. it smells good. like laundry fresh out of like the dryer. yeah. a man fresh out of the shower. nailed it. oh yeah. proof. febreze car vent clips keep your car fresh. another way febreze helps you breathe happy. that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> in the shadow of the old state capitol where lincoln called upon a house divided to stand together where common hopes and common dreams still live, i stand before you today to announce my candidacy for president of the united states of america. >> that was president barack obama six years ago when he first embarked on the road to the white house,

she's up for her third oscar for "lincoln." big morning for "lincoln."ctor nod for daniel day-lewis. >> let's go right now. all of the nominations revealed by seth macfarlane and emma stone at the samuel goldwyn theater. take a look. >> hi, there. good morning. i'm seth macfarlane, the host of the oscars. if you don't know who i am, just pretend i'm donny osmond. we'll get through this. it's a great honor to be here to announce the nominees. i'm not sure why we don't wait until noon to do this, since the only people that are up right now are either flying or having surgery. but i want to congratulate today's nominees. and also to congratulate those who weren't nominated. you can stop doing interviews where you pretend that you had such a great time making the movie. and here to help me out, since there's nothing creepier than a guy standing by himself in hollywood at 5:00 in the morning, is the lovely and talented, miss emma stone. [ applause ] >> thank you, seth. >> emma stone is the star of the new film "gangster squad." not sure if you're the star. th

abraham lincoln. abraham lincoln heard clay's speech in lexington because he was visiting the town on his way from springfield to washington, d.c.. he was visiting mary's family in lexington and while he was there, he got to hear henry clay speak. it was a tremendous thing for lincoln. lincoln always idolized clay calling him the ideal politician, and to have the opportunity to actually hear clay speak was a huge thing for him. lincoln, when he was young, carried around a book of clay's speeches and read them to himself. when he was a young man, he was the president of the clay club and asked henry clay to speak in springfield, and he didn't come. this was lincoln's opportunity to meet the politician he respects and admires the most, and he heard clay give a speech against the war: perhaps t nos the surprising when lincoln's in washington, rather than talking about tariffs or economic issues that motivated him as a politician, he decides to support more. lincoln and congress are what are known as thou

the lincoln bible.his big bible but it's actually pretty tiny. >> the monumental mentality of the moment has been confused with the size of the bible. it's a small family bible. >> 150 years ago, the president who freed the slave abraham lincoln, put his hand on this bible and swore to uphold the constitution. >> these are objects that seem to store the energy of a moment and they are physical objects that have traveled through time and culture to us. >> mark is the chief of the rare books collection at the u.s. library of congress. lincoln's inauguration day, march 4th, 1861. >> there's this incredible moment where lincoln walking out on stage and gives this magnificent inaugural address and uses this bible to swear in in a moment when the country is so divided. >> a country so politically torn and on the verge of war, lincoln had to be mug geled in because of assassination threats. lincoln didn't have his family bible with him so he borrowed one from lincoln thomas carol, a seal and a test that it was

king and abraham lincoln. he'll be using those two bibles when he takes the public oath of office, again, all leading to a remarkable day here on the national mall. overnight, the president attended the first event of his second term, a candlelight reception. >> what we're doing is celebrating each other. and celebrating this incredible nation that we call home. >> reporter: where he addressed the issue everyone in washington has been discussing. >> i love michelle obama. to address the most significant event of this weekend, i love her bangs. >> reporter: hours earlier, at the white house, the second term began, as he took the oath of office, in a private ceremony. the influx of spectators who descended upon washington, to watch obama be sworn in a second time. >> the theme of this year's inauguration, is our people, our future. >> reporter: while the president plans to look to the future, he'll also pay tribute to the past. he'll be sworn in on two bibles. one used by abraham lincoln. and one, fittingly on t

abraham lincoln was real.t harry reid trying to show democrats a movie that provided a lesson in backbone. how about republicans watch it on their own and then and then, maybe just look in the mirror. all right. we're going to have a lot more on this with rudy guliani picking apart what has happened to our country and to our party. it's a personal responsibility and providing opportunities for all. you are not getting it? they weren't ready for that. that is the kind of guy i am. so see you tonight. >>> hello, i'm kimberly guilfoyle along with the panel and it's 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. >> kimberly: gun control debate is heating up and one of the common arguments from anti-gun advocates is that we don't need more guns. but sometimes guns save lives. two in georgia gaz whose home was invaded. it happened 30 miles from atlanta. when the person broke in the hid in the crawl space. when the suspect found them she shot him. it didn't kill him but sent him fleeing. because she was able to have tha

"lincoln," directed by steven spielberg, about president abraham lincoln.gain, president obama will be putting his hand on two bibles, one is the bubble of dr. martin luther king, his traveling bible, and one is the bible of president lincoln. in this clip, you first hear abraham lincoln, played by daniel day lewis, followed by the voices of thaddeus stevens -- the congress member from pennsylvania -- and mary todd lincoln, the first lady. >> step down upon the world's stage now critics the fate of human dignity and our hands. >> blood has been spilt to afford as this moment critics now, now, now. >> abraham lincoln has asked us to work with him to accomplish the death of slavery. >> no one has ever been loved so much by the people. don't ways that power. >> "lincoln." clarence lusane? >> an number of important historians have pointed out the passage of the 13th amendment did not just happen to the nationalization and the efforts of lincoln, it also happened as a result of what was happening below, the rebellions that happened, the organizing that african-a

reveres lincoln.has seen the movie. i know that he draws inspiration from abraham lincoln. we may very well here some references. >> we have been showing the scene outside of the white house. it has become a mecca for tourists to capture the feeling of the weekend. steve is with us from miami. >> good morning. before i start my comment, i would like to say i am a cuban american. i got here in 1960. to us, what i have learned since tothen, white and blacks are the same. putting that aside, terry made a comment about gun-control. the first thing that happened in cuba, russia, a communist country is one thing. take the guns away from the citizens. we do not need that in the united states. i believe we have the second amendment. it goes back for a long time. second, spending. how can we keep spending money when our nation does not have a penny to stand on? my three kids and my grandkids, what are they going to believe in? i have a question for the democratic body. the cubans coming in from cuba right now

"lincoln" takes it. >> sherrod? >> i think "lincoln" will take it. >> you do know i was in the movie "django" i played a body double when he had jamie foxx upside down in the barn. that was me. it got a little chilly in there, but i had good girth. >> oh god. >> this was after you won the role in the look alike contest? >> you need to meet more black people. >> time to take a break. "zero dark 30" should win for best picture. >>> the future of meetings is here. >> i am ignoring the exclamation point. it is amazing and creepy. suitable technologies rolled out a product called beam remote presence device or brpd or burped. terror has a new name. >> anything outstanding or can we wrap up? >> hey, susan. i wanted to talk to you about a problem we are having. >> let's talk after. thanks, every. thanks, everyone. >> hey, mark, do you have a sec? >> absolutely. >> i heard there is an issue with the hinge mechanism. >> i actually have two problem areas right here. >> what are you doing? >> you beat me here. >> let's talk to

first by the lincoln bible, the same bible used by president lincoln when he was sworn in 1861. that will be on top of the king family bible, which has been graciously provided for the ceremony by the king family. kelly clerks and will then sink, -- clarkson will then sing, "my country 'tis of thee." excited that the youngest ever inaugural poet, the first lgbt and latino inaugural poet will be joining us. the ceremony will and with beyonce singing -- wil enl end with beyonce singing the national anthem. the bibles are very historic and symbolic. the 50th anniversary of the march on washington in 1963. i would like to have it over to our partners at -- hand it over to our partners at jtf. >> thank you. i am colonel michelle roberts. our task force has a responsibility for planning and coordinating all of the military ceremonial support. once the luncheon is complete, the president, first lady and vice president in will be escorted to were the will greet the commander of the task force. he will escort him down the steps to take what is called the pact in review. -- path in review

"lincoln 2," the lincolning. >> yeah. >> "lincoln 2: breaking dawn." >>" lincoln at abe's." >> well, you may have heard the nominations are in for the 85th academy awards. and now it's time to put the best of the best together in one amazing award ceremony. and that job belongs to two men, a producing team that has spent years planning this ceremony. now our nadya bilchik spoke about their plans. >> this is your first time producing the oscars. but you've been preparing for this for years. tell me about that. >> well, you know, it's -- we produced a movie a couple of years ago called "the bucket list" which turned into that nice little hit. and we for the past decade or so have wanted to be doing this show. and when we got the job, we said this has always been on our bucket list. >> and you've had a vision for how you would produce the oscars for so long. so far, is it turning out the way you hoped? >> yeah, i would say that what's interesting about it is neil and i have played this fantasy game for the last five, six, seven, eight years saying what if? what if they called and they s

lincoln could draw from very different points of view.lly, lincoln became president when the republicans were a startup party. so he needed rivals within his own party just to solidify his presidency. and so sometimes a tie verse opinion can give a president many things to consider and then hopefully make the best decision in the long run. >> neil: this president started off, regardless of your opinions with hillary clinton, on the right foot by reaching out to a challenger to be such a prominent cabinet secretary. after that it went by the way side, folks say some of these latest choices, jack lew, particularly, sort of reconfirms the business as usual crowd. does that longer run with folks who want to see big changes or could these folks surprise us? >> well, i guess, they can surprise you. george w. bush brought in paul o'neill. he was favored by wall street and capitol hill to be his treasury secretary, and then later bush said he did not share his enthusiasm for tax cuts. and it's one thing to disagree with the president, but in neil

lincoln was sure to get other rice comes to holders of pickup lever so. second, lincoln assumes only a small minority in the succeeding states really supported secession. republicans believe the great majority of white southerners and the confederacy, non-slaveholders and slaveholders alike were basically loyal law abiding citizen who were being tricked or anti-secession and minority of extremists. leaving slavery allowed would hopefully when i'm back. that's the expectation. but after a full year of war and despite lincoln effort to spare their property and spare their feelings, precious few slaveowners producing any active sympathy to the union or union policies. this lack of support is supposedly prounion slaveowners isolde marbury son in the light at the bad news that was around that time coming from the virginia battlefield of 1862. meanwhile, it is painfully clear that confederate armies were everywhere benefiting greatly from the forced labor performed for them by slaves, and placing artillery and this sketch comic you read to be sick and wounded,

"argo", life of pi and "linco "lincoln." >>> i'm going with "lincoln." >> and i'm going with "lincoln> i didn't get your pick. >> i'm going with "lincoln" too. >> that's why you didn't say. okay we're even on that one. we can't bet on this. >> no. we're both winners. if "lincoln" wins keith looses. >> now, let's go on to best actress. >> jessica chastain for "zero dark thirty" and helen mirren for "hitchcock." naomi watts for the "the impossible" and rachel wise for "the deep blue sea." >> i'm going with helen mirren. >> i'm going with naomi watts. >> why? >> because i want to be different than you. and you -- >> have you seep the movie? >> but you took my answer, helen mirren. >> that was your answer, too? we're thinking alike these days. all right. we'll come up with something we'll bet. let's go to best actor. daniel day lewis in "lincoln." next on the list? >> we've got richard gear in "arbi. the -- arbitroj." and denzel washington i like him but i'm going with daniel day lewis and all the critics say he's going to win. >> i think so, too. he spent so much time looking like lincol